Interesting....I have not heard of this Piggy back...made in Germany

 

This is attractive and interesting. I have a COBB Accessport that I have not yet installed on our Macan S because I still have a couple of months of warranty. It looks as though the power and torque increases for the Vector on a Macan S are very similar to those produced by the Accessport. However, the fuel, ignition and boost mapping programs can easily be updated by downloading OTC programs provided by COBB and custom tuning is also possible. It is not evident that this flexibility is possible with the Vector. Anyone know?

 

Vector is a piggyback it does not write to the ecu like a Cobb does. Flatsixmotorsports has a good video on YouTube explaining the difference. Its a three part series which tests piggy backs in the last one. The Vector is new to them I believe. I would like to see how others have found this to work.

 

Hey guys, thought I'd just chime in.

We met with the guys at Vector Tuning a little over a year ago. We generally vet our brand partners pretty good but especially when it comes to engine tuning. Frankly, we had some isolated issues with some vendors in the past on some of the early piggyback solutions for the Macan. It does us no good to sell a part that won't provide a positive experience to our customers.

We tested their solution on a Macan S, Turbo and GTS for roughly 9 months. We feel very comfortable with their solution. It adds good power delivery and operates smoothly. We have our initial shipment in our inventory and just started playing with their custom tuning software.

There is a possibility that we may offer custom maps in the future on the Vector Tuning boxes. I'm not certain we can add a lot of value there with the adjustment they have on their map set but we've been tinkering with it. Cobb is going to be a better solution for those guys who are doing a lot of modifications because we can control a lot more variables to optimize power.

Overall, we still think Cobb Tuning offers the best tuning solution that is user-friendly for Macan owners. However, for folks concerned about flashing their ECU, the Vector Tuning solution is a great option. I want to time myself on a video because I think I can hook one up in under a minute! Maybe we'll test that one day soon!

 

I want to time myself on a video because I think I can hook one up in under a minute! Maybe we'll test that one day soon!

Have you found the time to film this video?!
Would like to see it :nerd:

 

The instructions show a T harness but also mention that it uses three of the sensors. So are there three T harnesses used in the install?

 

Each lead has a T, one end goes into the factory sensor harness, the other plugs into the factory wiring loom/lead.

 

Anyone running one of these?

 

Does anyone have any thoughts/experience with the Vector Tuning box versus the VR Tuned box for the Macan S? I wish to purchase one of them, and the HP/torque gains have negligible differences. I will avoid Cobb for warranty concerns.

I am currently running a Pedal Commander, and I do like the subtle improvement it provides.

Thanks!

 

Hey Thunder go and order it =) I want to hear someone's reply on the improvement. I had a BMS piggyback on a BMW and really liked the difference and ease.


Here is what Jon mentioned:
"The VR Tuned uses an analog controller where the Vector Tuning box uses a digital SENT protocol so the Vector Tuning box is quite a bit smoother with power delivery. From our experience, most of the CEL issues have been with an install error"

 

Reviving an older thread. Surely someone has taken the plunge. Don't be shy.

 

Been running the Vector on my '17 S for a month. Tried 2 settings so far: Sport 4 (default setting) and Sport 6. Note that I'm calling 1 as lowest in mode and 7 as highest (7 settings per mode). Sport 6 is what the Flat6 said was their best setting in testing -- though they call it Sport 2 (With 1 being highest I guess?) The lights to indicate setting are a bit wonky as there are only 4 LEDs for 7 settings. and the lights don't exactly light in order. Kind of confusing...

Note: I drive in Sport mode, 93 gas, no other mods, and always warm-up the car until idle settles (except for one test--see warning below).

With the Vector in both settings, the Macan S performed more like I expected it to vs stock. Low-end shifting (up and down) felt noticeably smoother and more enjoyable around town. Sound on warm-up idle is a bit muted with the Vector for some reason, but haven't noticed any sound difference when driving. The problem: The shifts between 2-3 and 3-4 are clunky when punching it. It definitely has more acceleration, feels about 50HP to me? But the shift drops are significant and I can hear the wastegate (?). I've recently put in the plug to bring it back to stock and it is def not as fast, low-end slow shifting is not as smooth, but shifting is smoother at higher revs.

The jury is still out for me. I need to test other settings because the clunky shifting is a no-go for me. If I can't find a good balance, I'll sell it.
One warning: Make sure to let the car warm-up. Shifting and wastegate noise seems far more pronounced when cold. I tried this once to test and won't be repeating!

Installation was a bit cumbersome. Took me about 40 min, but most of that time was spent trying to get the plugs free from the stock sensors -- the Cam sensor was a pain -- and prob 15 min finding good places to ziptie the cables to avoid heat and allow the engine cover to reseat properly (LOTS OF CABLING!). I think I used 10 zipties, and they supplied 8 in the kit?

My biggest concern is cutting all those zipties and reinstalling if the car ever needs a service visit. Not looking forward to that! If you can find a suitable tie that is removable, please let me know!

 

I got no useful feedback and went Cobb.

 

Vector is offereing a very low price now. I think im going to pull the trigger. For less than 500 euro, including bluetooth

 

Did you pull the trigger @BigMacVA ?
Or anyone else bought this?

 

I did. Been using it for a couple month. I really like it. Installation was a little rough since the harness wasn't labeled but some Googling and Jon at Flat6 and the people at Vector got me squared away. I would buy it again, but with the bluetooth.

 

Thanks for your input! Planning on doing a purchase in August.

What does the Bluetooth do?
Able to adjust the different setting on your phone instead of manual adjust the presets?

What about the drive booster? Anyone tried that?

 

I think the bluetooth allows you to change the mode of the operation without getting under the hood. (Could be wrong).

Drive booster looks interesting

 

I pulled the trigger and ordered the vector tune. I am waiting for it to arrive for my 2017 Macan Turbo. Also ordered diverter valve & the MBRP all from F6. Looking forward to it. My ‘17 is almost out of warranty @ 47k miles so it’s time to start modding it.

 

Sounds like a great upgrade! I have the diverter valves and the Alpha Performance air filter ready to be ordered as well. Just need to wait until august.

Let us know how the Vector upgrade goes.

 

F6 Diverter valves installed on my 15 Turbo, wow what a difference! combined with my Cobb custom tune, the car has never run stronger or smoother. DV’s a must!

 

I've been running the Vector in my 18' Macan GTS for a few weeks and got the same clunky shifts every now and then, but only with the unit in the absolute highest setting (Power 3) and mainly at low speeds, not when punching it. At WOT (wide open throttle) I had no issue with the gear changes, just slow speed during passive driving. I backed it down to the lowest Power setting (Power 1? the LED's are indeed confusing) and have had good results so far. I use 94 octane (10% ethanol) and no other performance mods other than a Hike It-X9 throttle controller.

1) Power
2) Sport
3) Economy
4) Standard (OEM)

For me, the Vector was a no-brainer over the COBB as I didn't want to flash the ECU and the Halloween sale pricing was too good to pass up; 20% off for a total of $495 USD all in w taxes shipped to Canada, essentially 1/3 of the more customizable COBB V3. I've used BMS piggyback tuning for past Mercedes/Audi and APR and GIAC for other Porsche's and Audi's and am as pleased with this as any.

 

I'm reading the Vector + Pedal Commander is a really good combo but with these 2 combined isn't it ~$1100 which is only a couple hundred off the Cobb tuner (~$1300 )

With the Cobb tuner you flash the ecu. Are you NOT able to flash back to stock?

Thanks

 

I'm reading the Vector + Pedal Commander is a really good combo but with these 2 combined isn't it ~$1100 which is only a couple hundred off the Cobb tuner (~$1300 )

With the Cobb tuner you flash the ecu. Are you NOT able to flash back to stock?

Thanks

Trying to figure out what your question is. If you are talking about the Cobb you can flash back before any trip to the dealer. This precludes any warranty questions.

 

I had the Pedal Commander on my 2016 S and LOVED it. I added a Vector piggyback, and though the horsepower increase was definitely noticeable, I could never get a setting where the shifting was good. The power and acceleration were intoxicating, as it made my S as fast if not a bit faster than a stock Macan Turbo, but the shifts were way too harsh, so I got rid of it.

I was fortunate enough to trade up to a 2020 GTS, and have missed neither the Pedal Commander nor the Vector box.

 

Has anyone on the Forum installed one and if so can you share your thoughts on the promise, (+71 HP, +82 ft lb) versus the actual seat-of-pants experience. I’m mostly interested in the car feel during normal driving.

 

Apologies. If I’d looked more thoroughly I’d have seen all the answers I need already published. I’ll install on my 2027 Turbo this weekend.

 

Curious if anyone has experienced any better results in the shifting department lately. Perhaps they have updated the tune to address it? I have sent them an email asking if they have made adjustments to address the issue. Also, how does Sport mode effect the operation? Is tune the same in both modes or does Sport mode activate a more aggressive tune? Thanks

 

I have just installed the vector piggyback tuner on my 2018 macan S.
the shifting issue that everyone is talking about is still there. It’s almost like the car double shifts at low speed and rpm. Kind of took me by suprise. Reduced the tune and it went away. I would really like to see some actual dyno numbers for the performance numbers vector claims. All in all great experience so far with the vector tuner easy to install. Bluetooth makes for easy adjustment in the vehicle while you’re driving.
highly recommended this product as it’s easily removable and doesn’t affect your ECU.

 

I have just installed the vector piggyback tuner on my 2018 macan S.
the shifting issue that everyone is talking about is still there. It’s almost like the car double shifts at low speed and rpm. Kind of took me by suprise. Reduced the tune and it went away. I would really like to see some actual dyno numbers for the perfo

 

I had a 2019 Macan S, before my wife crashed in to a pole on our street. The car is okay (Wife is perfectly fine haha).
Anyways I had the Vector tuning pulled out before salvaging the vehicle. Its in perfect condition. I was unable to sell it on here because I don't remember my old login.
I got a 2022 Cayenne GTS now and haven't found any good forums to chat on.
If you're interested in the Vector. Im willing to let it go for cheap or it sits in the garage for a lifetime. Message me on and I can setup an ebay or whatever you feel safe with and refund policy. I think I bought the Vector unit for $1100 total.
Ill take $500.