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Porsche has just announced the new generation Cayenne in e-hybrid flavor, boasting a 136HP electric drive coupled with the Cayenne base’s single-turbo engine. Now, if we take that as a proxy to speculate about a potential plug-in hybrid Macan, we can think of the 4-cylinder Audi engine coupled with the same electric drive that we find in the hybrid Cayenne and Panamera, which would deliver a total of around 360HP, which will probably be similar to the power to be found on the facelift Macan S, and lots of torque from as low as 1000 revs. This would make sense since the new Cayenne e-hybrid takes the base Cayenne’s engine and, adding the electric drive, delivers a total of 462HP (enough for an impressive 4.8s time for the 0-60), which is 22 more than the 440HP of the Cayenne S. Throw in some 25-30 miles of pure electric drive, good for many city commuters, and all this priced at roughly the same price point as the Macan S.

I’m really curious to know what your thoughts abut such a model would be. A few months ago I would have said ‘not for me’ since my wife’s Cayenne doesn’t deliver much ‘Porscheness’ to me, but now I find it a very appealing proposition to replace my Macan GTS one day.
 
#475 ·
I'm liking that rendering, but hating the touch-sensitive center console panel!

My new more realistic threshold for purchasing a Macan EV though is 500 to 600 hp, 0 to 60 mph in the 3s, and a minimum 400 mile range....that and it would need to handle like the ICE variant, and cost about the same.
 
#476 ·
wow. looks good for an EV car. I will never buy a car where all of the buttons are plastic and need cleaning to remove the finger prints. the would look like **** in just a few days. Seeing all of these changes on the current model and now this makes me very happy I special ordered mine in 2018. I know some love the new PCM and taillights but the older models have the true Porsche engine.
 
#477 ·
Would be cool if they gave the front end a bit of Taycan treatment...differentiate the EV vs Gas models & keep both instead of eventually replacing the gas model
 
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#479 ·
I don't doubt there will be a fully electric version of the Macan very soon whether under the Macan name or another name. But It seems strange to think that Porsche would totally eliminate the ICE Macan for a full EV version. This is Porsche's highest selling vehicle for a reason; the price point of the base 4 banger puts a Porsche nameplate in the reach of many people that could not afford any other new car in the Porsche line up. Most people I meet that have a Macan have the base 4 cylinder version and see no difference to a GTS or Turbo - it's more than enough power for them and most importantly, they can say they own a Porsche. People like us are enthusiasts and understand the brand.

I can see Porsche (and all manufacturers for that matter) adding more hybrids and and EV versions, but hybrid and EV technology adds costs and sales of their best selling vehicle will plummet if they take the price point to high.
 
#483 ·
Yesterday I was speaking with my SA about my wife’s car, and at one point we shifted the subject to Macans. According to him, he’s scheduled for a training on the second facelift of the Macan that would be released in January next year. This would still be a purely ICE version (alas, no plug-in hybrid Macan) to keep sales up until the release of the next-gen EV Macan. So two facelifts for one and the same generation; highly unusual.

To be taken with the usual pinch of salt.
 
#484 ·
A facelift in 19 and another in 22 would be very odd, but that seems to be the consistent rumor. After 7 years, timing seems to dictate a redesign is due? I definitely think we’ll see an updated interior similar to the Cayenne, Panny, and 992, it’s the plan for the exterior that has me curious. Very interested for more info on this as the wifey‘s lease will be up in March of 22.
 
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Hi-Toro said:
If it came with matrix LED headlights, 3 chamber air suspension, head up display and auto parking I could get used to the flat panel centre console eventually !
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IF and that is a big IF they offer any/all, I think we all know those would be YUGE Cha-Ching options
 
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#492 ·
For what it's worth, here was my experience ordering an early 2021 Macan last year. I was shopping and using the on-line configurator in late May and early June last year. About the first of June I noticed that the on-line configurator had apparently changed from 2020 models to 2021 models (the prices had suddenly changed). I didn't see any other indication of what model year it was displaying. I ordered my car about a week later, on June 10, and the dealer confirmed that it would be a 2021 model. The car arrived in November, possibly delayed by impacts from the pandemic. I understood it was one of the first, if not the first 2021 to arrive in town. I don't know if the schedule might be different this year. It may be that when the configurator changes over that is a clue that the next-year order book has opened. Or maybe you dealer can just tell you! Happy shopping.....
 
#494 ·
I feel like I’ve seen those interior photos posted somewhere before. Very interesting that Porsche is doing another minor refresh of the exterior while updating the interior. I still really like the exterior looks of the Macan, but I’m also ready to see what they do next as it has remained largely the same since 2014.
 
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#495 ·
I personally feel like they should had moved away already from this design and move on to something similar to the Cayenne GTS look. I feel like a smaller version of the cayenne GTS would sell pretty well and is closer in design to the rest of their cars.
Even this new Macan is starting to look dated now!
 
#496 ·
Looks like I'll be moving on from the ICE Macan in the future, the new 2022 just doesn't do it for me. Too bad, as I was holding out hope for a "PP" option coming back for the Turbo model.

Looks like the new BMW M3 Comp with xDrive will be my next vehicle.
 
#501 · (Edited)
New Apple TV remote released today goes back to physical buttons after the previous remote had that terrible touch sensitive pad used to move around the screen !

Don't get rid of the buttons. We like buttons. Hey Porsche are you listening ?

I'm so close to just ordering a new Macan GTS and skipping the next touch pad generation in the hope the buttons make a triumphant return in the future.

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Could not have said it better !

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#505 ·
I wish!
 
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#507 ·
from Wikipedia: Porsche is currently developing the next generation of the Macan, which will be fully electric. It is planned to use two electric motors with all-wheel drive and the same two-speed automatic transmission from the Taycan. The new Macan is expected to begin production in 2023. Before then, Porsche will update the first-generation Macan in 2021, which Porsche intends to sell alongside the all-electric Macan at its debut
 
#508 ·
Excellent Motor1 article.

Sounds that Porsche will sunset the gasoline vehicle only after the EV has successfully been launched. That wind-down may be region-by-region rather than all at once. While Europe tightens emissions regulations (Euro 7 takes effect for 2025), the biggest auto markets (China, USA) with more lax emissions regulation and/or cheap fossil fuels will continue to have solid demand for gas burners, at least in suburban and rural areas. That being said, the Taycan seems to be meeting sales goals so one would not expect Porsche to be timid about making future EV launches as quick as they can. The demand is there; Tesla and other premium EV makers don't seem to have any problem finding buyers. Of course all schedules may slide due to supply chain hiccups. It may be that Porsche will need to extend gasoline models if they have a more stable supply chain with easily extensible contracts. It's tough to launch an all-new electric anything right now as demand for all electronics is strong. Let's face it, Apple is ahead of everyone in line for the first runs of new chipsets.

A photographer with sharp eyes snagged a view of a clay model of what looks like a possible Macan EV at the Porsche LeMans hybrid car unveiling event. It looks as though Porsche may be intending to retain as much dimensional similarity & perhaps upper body parts sharing as possible from the current Q5-based Macan with the future PPE-based EV.

Subsequently that clay buck was rendered into a possible look for the new EV. Nothing too daring going on here, but I like the efforts to tidy it up and maybe even clean up the aerodynamics a tad. Might have to soften some of the hard horizontal creases to pass pedestrian impact safety rules. Anything is better than the current confused mess of a fascia Porsche offers today. In my experience, vehicle designers often need reminders that an automobile is supposed to flow through the air with minimal resistance, not blend the atmosphere like a food processor or push it like a snow plow.
 
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