I have always gone with extended warranties on my Germans....either through the Geico MBI or Ally Platinum are my two go-to extended warranty programs.

 

I've got 3 Japanese cars in my driveway to go along with the Macan. I don't worry at all about my wife's brand new Civic, or the Lexus RX350 with 170k miles that my son drives to high school. The Miata makes me a little bit nervous because I drive it to red line every time out. After reading multiple stories like this, or on timing cover leaks, bad transfer cases or PDK solenoid issues, my CPO warrantied Macan still makes me the most worried that it will leave me stranded somewhere and Porsche will somehow fight me on the cost. I've already decided I will start trying to sell it about 6 months before the CPO expires.

I'm curious, what did you order?

I totally get it.

I jumped out of the ICE world and ordered a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Should be here in the next couple of weeks.

 

I totally get it.

I jumped out of the ICE world and ordered a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Should be here in the next couple of weeks.

Sorry, I just don't view Tesla as a staple of reliability. I've been living with one for over 2 years and just traded it in for a new Macan. Couldn't be happier about this decision.

 

Also, especially these days a new car lease makes sense. Don’t have to worry about what the car will be worth after you use it for 3+ years, especially with the ICE To EV transition going in the next few years. And, there are risks in both camps!

Plus Porsche will extend leases if you are buying another Porsche. Or even exit you earlier! At least they have some skin in the game.

 

My indy also brought to my attention that I had a coolant leak, evident by the globs of pink residue in the engine bay. Sure enough, I took it to porsche and they discovered a crack in the coolant pipe. I may have averted the same fate since catching it early on. 48K miles on mine

 

This is why I would never own one of these without some warranty. But then it doesn't say much when you think about it. The cars should not have to be covered with such pricey insurance. Both my Caymans I drove without warranty. I had an older 911 I never worried about. But the Macans and Cayennes....a flatbed is always hauling one in to the local dealer.

I think part of this is because everyone is on the internet these days and these events are more visible than before. For years the Porsche community went in circles over the IMS issue. That didn't really become a problem until years after the cars were in production. Then you always had your doubts but no real numbers.

I'm realy curious to know what caused this. .

 

Many good points are being made in this thread. I agree one would think Porsche would want to know what happened. As stated there are several causations possible....and all of them are related to excess heat or lack of proper lubrication. But, to me the main problem here is not the car itself. It is the way Porsche addresses catastrophe failure and their control of the repair process. Porsche is in business to make money.....bottom line. They want their cars to last u til the warrenty is out. That is it. They have no interest in making cars that will easily last 100000 miles. Of course there are Porsche's that do last that long but that is not the point. By controlling repair cost.....mainly by controlling parts availability even more money is being made. By controlling parts independent shops find It not in their best interest in investing their time and money into the Porsche repair. So competition is much less. There are ways around this that certain very talented people do in their speed shops etc but this is the reason that no national chain repair handles Porsche. I have learned a lot by owning my Macan and that is not good for the Porsche mystique/status. Porsche may not have realized that by making the Macan and selling gobs of them at a lower price they would be exposing their business environment to the "common man". I actually feel sorry for some Porsche owners. Porsche does not stand behind their cars. They make great performing good looking cars...don't get me wrong ....but one should not purschase a Macan for long term ownership ( past warrenty) without knowing a good independent Porsche repair shop, having a big wallet, or can handle the upkeep and repairs themselves.
There has been numerous catastropic failures in the Macan that have occurred when it is just past the warrenty. Porsche needs to step up.
By the way why is there a time limit (just 4 years) on a car warrenty? I understand it can't be forever...but 4 years is not very long. Time doesn't wear a car out, use does. Perhaps they could have a different warrenty just for the drivetrains? Like 7 years or 75000 miles against catastrophic failure....defined maybe as one that requires engine replacement or transmission replacement?!
Come on Porsche ..step up here. Realistically stand behind what you make.

 

By the way why is there a time limit (just 4 years) on a car warrenty? I understand it can't be forever...but 4 years is not very long. Time doesn't wear a car out, use does. Perhaps they could have a different warrenty just for the drivetrains? Like 7 years or 75000 miles against catastrophic failure....defined maybe as one that requires engine replacement or transmission replacement?!
Come on Porsche ..step up here. Realistically stand behind what you make.

Completely on board here, is it possible to have longer warranties without incurring substantially higher warranty expenses? Evidence would suggest yes.

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Hyundai offers a 10 yr/100K mile warranty on the powertrain. Hyundai has lower prices and profit margins than Porsche. If Porsche engineering is as fantastic as claimed (I'd argue it was on my old 996 Turbo, on my Macan not so much) then they should be able to offer at least something similar - if not much better.

BUT the luxury car business isn't dominated by people buying and owning cars for long periods of time. It's a churn game where you pay the piper twice - once for the original lessee who is covered under their three years and 36K miles of ownership and the second for the CPO buyer who may get up to another three years of warranty coverage. If you want to know how long the cars are engineered to last, that's it by business model design - six years or two turns of the car (particularly the SUV's, 911's and 718's are different). Pre-pandemic it seemed many Porsche dealerships would not sell a used car that they could not CPO. If they did opt to floorplan instead of auction, it was often the one-owner cars with full service histories at that dealership.

Volumes are too high with base Macans and Cayennes churning off of leases. So dealerships don't even want to deal with repairs. They manage this by quoting sky-high prices for parts and labor for out-of-warranty vehicles. They are designed, again by engineering and business model, to get mechanically totalled at the first sign or symptom of major problems. That third or fourth owner really takes the biggest risks. A $30K Macan Turbo or $25K Cayenne is going to cost at least half that in maintenance and repairs over a few years.

So Porsche could offer longer warranties, and lower prices, but they won't as long as people are happy to pony up for the brand image and mystique without thinking about the fact they are largely driving VW/Audi rebadged/warmed over leftovers.

Yes, I own a 2015 Macan S (bought used from the original owner) and it's a fantastic little SUV. But it's not really a Porsche, not like a 911, despite the advertising fluff.

 

It is the way Porsche addresses catastrophe failure and their control of the repair process. Porsche is in business to make money.....bottom line. They want their cars to last u til the warrenty is out. That is it. They have no interest in making cars that will easily last 100000 miles.

Not true, at least according to an ex employee. If you read the original PDK sticky, you would see the reasoning of not wanting people to chip their cars and create torque stresses the PDK was never designed to handle. Add HP and another part of the car breaks. They have every interest in making the cars run as long as possible.

If all the Macans dies at 70K miles, the class actions suits would bury them. You see any? Even with the oil problems you see any? I suspect the reason while we document them, its still a tiny number. How many Macans sold worldwide? Half a million? I don't know. How many problem cars? Now do all the other models.

You cannot judge the entire set of all Macans by this forum. You don't know what you don't know.

Of course there are Porsche's that do last that long but that is not the point. By controlling repair cost.....mainly by controlling parts availability even more money is being made. By controlling parts independent shops find It not in their best interest in investing their time and money into the Porsche repair. So competition is much less. There are ways around this that certain very talented people do in their speed shops etc but this is the reason that no national chain repair handles Porsche.

I suspect your reasoning is off here too. Its probably more in line with the cost to rent PIWIS. Not cheap. So your not going to your local Meinke to fix a Porsche. However, having owned these cars for many decades, there are MANY independents that specialize in Porsche repair. They have been easy to find. Ask your local PCA for references. I think the real reason is PIWIS access.

. Porsche may not have realized that by making the Macan and selling gobs of them at a lower price they would be exposing their business environment to the "common man". I actually feel sorry for some Porsche owners.

They know. Of course they know. Baruth said it all in Nov, 2013

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Of course they know. Your expectations are not the same as the Porsche buyers prior to 2013. Baruth nailed it.

There has been numerous catastropic failures in the Macan that have occurred when it is just past the warrenty.

Links? If there many, we should put up a sticky and link to them. Where are they? I know of maybe 2 or 3 of engines blowing up in 8 years, which is deep, deep in the noise. And you have to know all the details of how the car was cared for. Just read the "how will you break it in thread". Some people think it wise to ignore the car maker and drive it like they stole it. So do the math. How many catastrophic failures have happened among all the cars sold? 148K cars sold in the U S and the US is not the biggest market, China is. so maybe 400,000 cars sold? Show the link to all the catastrophic engine failures and do the math.

Im not defending them, but rather one has to know ALL the information and not anecdotal data.

 

Razor > Razor blade

Porsche > Service/parts revenue.

Makes some sense, but I’m not sure a high end auto manufacturer’s reputation could survive on service/parts alone ie Lexus as an example, high quality autos with minimal repairs. Got to make some $$$$ on the cars they sell.

 

From my experience, in order

1. Used car sales - especially reselling a lease (as CPO). Can account for more than half the revenue with some dealers.
2. Service (and parts). Take half of the retail part and that is close to the actual part cost
3. New Car sales, 3% - 8% margin for foreign, up around 16% for GM

 

How do you collect data when they are repaired at an independent? Honest question. Most people when faced with out of warrenty cost cannot afford to have a blown engine or pdk repaired at the dealer. I do know at the shop I ended up at, had 2 other Macans there for pdk repair. That is just one shop.
The numbers may be there if we know where to look? I appreciate everyone's point of view and suggestions. I just think Porsche can do better.
One view point if there are only a few Macans with catastrophic failure ...talking engine or transmission replacement..... it would be a drop in the bucket for Porsche to cover most if not all the cost.
I am sorry, I feel for this OP and an engine replacement on one that was not abused and maintained correctly at 60-70000 miles? That should not have happened.

 

How do you collect data when they are repaired at an independent? Honest question.

I counted the oil leaks. I doubt there are 200 cars, out of nearly 500K sold, it means nothing. It means a LOT to the people effected, but for the big picture, not so much., I can't speak to engine failures because I only remember one in this forum. Nobody is going to go to an indy for an oil leak when PCNA will give some kind of goodwill.

Most people when faced with out of warrenty cost cannot afford to have a blown engine or pdk repaired at the dealer.

You were warned. Baruth in Nov 2013 warned all potential buyers. Quote

"The man who spent six figures on the Cayenne Turbo S can afford to take that loss, but his more modestly-accomplished younger brother can’t afford to take the same hit on his Macan. If you want to play in the mass market, you need to bring mass market skills to bear. There’s no evidence that Porsche has those skills"

There is MUCH truth to this:

"requirements for the 911, which are;

• Look like a 911
• Be more reliable than an ’87 Testarossa
• Or at least as reliable
• Or, failing that, be cheaper to fix"

You were warned in the Newcomers thread, Feb 2014, BEFORE the first Macan was delivered in the USA.

"5. Prepare yourself for the maintenance costs

The days of $30 quick oil changes are long gone. $30 will barely buy the oil filter. The cost of minor services might require a short term loan. The cost of a major service? An equity loan. Get into serious work needed? A new crate engine? Think serious money."

Not a joke, serious.

You were warned in 2019, Lots of people complaining about TCO, Nobody does their due diligence?

I do know at the shop I ended up at, had 2 other Macans there for pdk repair. That is just one shop.

PDKs are supposed to be lifetime units. I have read of PDKs having problems out of warranty but very rare. The question you need to ask is WHY? In one of the PDK threads the Porsche dealer employee indicated its because people crank up the HP but NOT the PDK. This is well known. People want free HP but don't upgrade the PDK. It doesnt work that way. So you need to know ALL the details, and not just "My PDK broke".

The numbers may be there if we know where to look?

If they were large, like the IMS problems, it would be everywhere, and lawsuits turning into class action suits. Do you see any?

I am sorry, I feel for this OP and an engine replacement on one that was not abused and maintained correctly at 60-70000 miles? That should not have happened.

I agree it should not. But what you need to know is the entire history of the vehicle. As the second owner, who knows how it was broken in? Did they follow the recommendations from the car maker? What else happened. Do they have the full provenance of the first 49,000 miles? Who knows how its was used or abused?

Many decades ago, I learned that by buying a used car, you just buy another persons problems. Did the first owner trading to Carmax "know" of any issues?

BTW, I forgot to mention the 991.1 GT3 fires. The entire first batch were recalled and new engines sent. Big stink. Did anyone here think to give pause about Porsche's Reliability when this was a HUGE issue in the Pcar world. Or my guess, they have no idea.

Did you know that every 991.1 GT3 original owner got a new engine?

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/porsche-putting-engine-every-911-gt3-fires-destroy-152900643.html

You don't know what you don't know

 

Thats going to sound like I'm defending Porsche. No, I'm saying before one buys, do some research. Its all out there

1. Class action lawsuit on IMS
2. Class action lawsuit on coolant pipes
3. Everyone gets a new GT3 engine.



And suddenly producing 90,000 SUVs a year when they barely produced 50,000 units of all models.

 

And suddenly producing 90,000 SUVs a year when they barely produced 50,000 units of all models.

Not quite true. Volkswagen produced 8.8 million vehicles in 2021 Volkswagen car sales 2018 | Statista.

Porsche is as much a standalone company as is Cadillac (GM) or Lincoln (Ford), which is to say not at all. And those Cayennes and Macans are not bespoke Porsche designs, just look under the hood for VW and Audi markers on parts - of which you'll find quite a few. Heck, the new Macans don't even have Porsche engines any longer. If they can't figure it out producing 8.8 million vehicles a year, you have to wonder if they ever will.

 

Audi uses essentially the same engines!

 

Grim you make good points. I guess this may mean that the Macan is a throwaway product of sorts then? A person buying a new 100K product probably can afford to replace an engine or a transmission but would he want too? People with money are usually smart. Some aren't lol but I think all get the point. Does it make sense to pay $25000 for a transmission on a car that has less than 70000 miles when the repair is a little more than one half the retail value? Heck no! People are not as passionate about Macans as they are the 911 etc. When you are passionate about something then that is different.
Ome of my points are repairs don't have to be as high as they are. There is really nothing mystical about our pdk transmission nor our engines. They can be fixed. But Porsche's stand is not to repair them but to replace them. Yes indy's can do it cheaper....but try to find the needed parts. For example...if you know the pdk is not working properly due to a bad solenoid in the mechtronic unit.....try to buy that solenoid. Porsche will not sell it to you. It should be a $50 part but no you have to buy the entire mechatronic unit with a retail price of over $3000. If you can find one. I am not sure but I think you can not obtain all the parts needed to rebuild our engines. Can we rebuild our turbo's?
I guess we could go around and around about this all day and really not get anywhere. I respect everyone's opinion, appreciate viewpoint sharing. I have learned much on this forum...most of it good...as a result of us all doing that. Let's not stop👍
It is a shame though. Porsche can do better. But then again the ice engined Macan will not be made much longer anyway.

 

Grim you make good points. I guess this may mean that the Macan is a throwaway product of sorts then? A person buying a new 100K product probably can afford to replace an engine or a transmission but would he want too? People with money are usually smart. Some aren't lol but I think all get the point. Does it make sense to pay $25000 for a transmission on a car that has less than 70000 miles when the repair is a little more than one half the retail value? Heck no! People are not as passionate about Macans as they are the 911 etc. When you are passionate about something then that is different.
Ome of my points are repairs don't have to be as high as they are. There is really nothing mystical about our pdk transmission nor our engines. They can be fixed. But Porsche's stand is not to repair them but to replace them. Yes indy's can do it cheaper....but try to find the needed parts. For example...if you know the pdk is not working properly due to a bad solenoid in the mechtronic unit.....try to buy that solenoid. Porsche will not sell it to you. It should be a $50 part but no you have to buy the entire mechatronic unit with a retail price of over $3000. If you can find one. I am not sure but I think you can not obtain all the parts needed to rebuild our engines. Can we rebuild our turbo's?
I guess we could go around and around about this all day and really not get anywhere. I respect everyone's opinion, appreciate viewpoint sharing. I have learned much on this forum...most of it good...as a result of us all doing that. Let's not stop👍
It is a shame though. Porsche can do better. But then again the ice engined Macan will not be made much longer anyway.

What you present is the reason you don't want to own a Macan outside of a warranty. OK, this is a real make sense argument. I bought into this when I signed up for a five year extension. Why doesn't Porsche just take this under their wing and do it themselves and price it into the cost of the car?

 

I bought a 2015 S with 36 k miles, no warranty. Gambled big time. $1500 to repair hydraulic tensioner for serpentine belt. Perfect last 40 k.
Cost of extended warranty and maintenance has gone into the car for mods, brakes, intakes, Pedal Commander. I DIY.
Still the best automotive experience, ever.
She blows up I’ll get another 95B.1

 

But does Porsche want the Macan to be known as so unreliable that you need a warrenty to own and drive the car? Provide the warrenty up front for the drivetrain.

 

I just did a quick search and it seems that all the German brands Audi, BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes had the worst power train warrenty of all. 4 years or 50000 miles is the bottom of the barrel. I suppose there is a reason for that. I need to be a fly on the wall somewhere lol.

 

(unfortunately) what it all boils down to is: DO NOT own a Porsche without a warranty!

Unless, as @grim notes above, it's a disposable vehicle for you.

As I observed around the turn of the century (yikes - that sounds scary!) when I owned my 993, buying a Porsche is just
paying the price of admission. After that comes the co$t of ownership!


Good luck!

 

good words and so very true. we plan to keep our GTS for a very long time and we will most definitely get a VSP warranty before the original warranty expires-probably 10 years/100k miles.....

Its a real shame that something this expensive requires you to pay more money to ensure it can run as long as you want it to.

Until this car, it never occurred to me to purchase an extended warranty. We have had quite a few Toyotas and Hondas (most recently a Type R), and the thought of something serious breaking never crossed my mind.....and nothing serious ever broke....But, they also were not a Porsche, so it is what it is.....

 

Thank you Grim. I understand. I do get frustrated at times when I think that something doesn't make sense and then get a little perturbed when I feel taken advantage off. I get what you and others are saying about the cost of ownership. It just seemed to me that Porsche was entering a new market with the Macan and I guess I expected ( should learn to stop doing that lol) that meant it's was maybe trying to change it's image a little. Perhaps not. That's my bad. Porsche is Porsche. You can live in their world or choose not too. I apologize if I complained too much and I appreciate you bringing that impression to my attention. I will change my focus.

 

I want to temper this a bit.

First, BTW, I hope if you aren't driving it, you have it hooked to a tender. If not, you all better read all the thousands of posts of the cost of new batteries and read your warranty book that says you MUST hook it up if not driving for a couple of days. Now, lets temper this down a bit.

If you joined PCA you should get Panorama, a monthly magazine. You will read the stories of 1,000,000 miles 911s. People do keep them a long time. Go to a PCA event and look at the 356s, nm the air cooled 911s. And the 986s. Macan history is too short. Its gamble. There are truly wealthy people. They don't get loans. They OWN the bank. I've seen cars left on the showroom floor because the buyer didn't like the color. You'd be amazed at some stories. $100K cars as 16 year old bday presents.

Insurance is a gamble, one the insurer always wins. They don't sell policies to lose money. But it is wise to have the funds in hand, and if nothing happens, your that much richer.

Ask the price today of your dealer, with all this inflation, of a major service, 4 years. You will be shocked. Don't think about what was written here over the last 7 years. TODAY's prices are shocking.

Now the upside. Porsche runs a program called Porsche Classic I don't know of other marques that do this. I think once a vehicle generation is 10 years out of production, it enters Porsche Classic. OEM parts will be available. Example, here's a catalog

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Looks like it goes back to 1950. So the last one entered was the 955, that ran from 2003 to 2010. So 10 years would have been 2020. Before that the 986/996 cars were eligible. The 987/997 cars ended in 2012. I would suspect they would be eligible, come 2023.

Anyone know any other marque that does that for their old cars that are no longer produced?

Before anyone thinks the Macan will enter this program soon, no, its ONE generation, 95B. Although there have been one or two facelifts, they are still 95B. Normally a generation might run 8 years. This is year 9. So maybe they go to year 11. I doubt there will be a 96B.

There is an upside. You just got to keep the car. someone here just sold his car with 160,000 miles on it.

Remember, you only "hear" the whining, the complaining. What you do not hear is those who are very happy. They celebrate in silence.

 

That is a cool program. I never knew about it. I have been thinking about the 944...I have always admired that timeless design.

 

I'm on my first Porsche so I can't say, but I am on my third BMW: one well over 200,000, one over 150,000k and my third is now at 120,000k. None of them had/have had any serious issues. One VW GTI over 100k (only one recurring suspension problem), and one Golf TDI had about 30k when I traded it in for dieselgate (still kick myself for doing that). No issues. My brother-in-law has had a series of Audis over the years and a Mercedes AMG for the last 7 years with no big problems. So I don't think it is a "German" car issue.

It's a Porsche issue ! They are not meant to be daily drivers !

 

It's a Porsche issue ! They are meant to be daily drivers !

I'll never be accused of treating a car with kid gloves. Drove a rear-wheel drive convertible year-round in Syracuse for about 14 years. The Macan is my new DD.

 

I've already decided I will start trying to sell it about 6 months before the CPO expires.

Wise decision.

 

In August of 2019, I had just beaten cancer and decided to go get a car that I had lusted over for 4 years: a Porsche Macan.

I picked up a single-owner 2015 Macan S with 49k mi from Carmax that they shipped in from Cali for me. It was the blue I wanted, the options I wanted and I was in heaven when I drove it. I only hand-washed it, invested in wheels and tires for the changing seasons, some interior upgrades, added conveniences like a tow hitch for my bike rack, maintained all the servicing, etc. Basically, I invested in the enjoyment.

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During the 2.5 years I owned it, I put 13k miles on it. I also racked up $10k in repairs and servicing on the car. I was out of warranty when I bought the car and really should have explored options for a long extended warranty.

I took it to my local Euro indy for the scheduled services as they are 5 min away. I wasn't late for any of them. The closest Porsche dealer is 45 min away. A number of times, I would bring it into that dealer because my indy would diagnose an issue that shouldn't have happened and suggest I reach out to the dealer to see if they could help out at all. Like when my $1300 alternator went out, the dealer would say, "No way. Bring it in because I've never heard of that in my XX number of years here." Yeah. They confirmed the indy was right every time. And charged me a bit more to do the repair. My Macan has been towed 4 times since I have owned it due to random things going out making it undrivable. Another thing was a random coolant hose fitting snapped off. All on its own. Coolant sprayed everywhere and I pulled over and had it towed before the car overheated. Since then, I carried a container of coolant and emergency repair supplies in the car. Just in case.

Fast forward to two weeks ago. My best friend since high school lost his brother suddenly, so I pack up and jump in the Macan for a planned 9-hour road trip to attend the funeral. About 3 hours into the road trip, somewhere in eastern Nebraska, I get a burst of snow on the highway. I take this pic to show my wife the crazy visibility out. Note the readings on the right gauge. All seem normal. I drive with these up all the time since I just don't trust the car after the time I've owned it. I keep an eagle eye on them while I drive since I'm paranoid.

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Within about 5 min the conditions are clear as day again. About 15 min or so later, I am still on the interstate behind a vehicle doing about 60 or so. I step on the accelerator when I have a moment to pass and right at that moment my vehicle brakes instantly. Almost like someone pulled the E-brake in traffic. A semi swerves to avoid railing right into me. Every warning light and screen pops up on the dash. So many screens cycle through within 2-3 seconds that I can't read them. The car is shaking incredibly hard like the entire car is locked up until I hear a crack and then the car starts coasting and the engine cuts immediately and smoke pours from the hood. Cars go around me as I am able to safely make it to the shoulder and finally push it off the road.

I get out, look under the hood and it's smoking pretty good. I notice the coolant empty and am instantly confused. Temps were normal. I just looked at the gauge. Did I blow a hose again? I grab some water and Porsche coolant out of the hatch, mix it 50/50, and attempt to top the car off. It instantly disappears and then I hear it pouring on the ground. I look under the car and see fluids pouring out from slots in the under panel. So I push the car forward 20 feet or so to get a better look at the fluids. All that coolant I just put in. And oil. Uh oh.

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After a $1250 charge of my card and 2.5 hours of waiting in 30° weather in a car without heat, the tow truck picks me and the car up to take us back to Colorado. My wife and son pick me up halfway and the car is dropped off at my indy.

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The next day, I get the bad news. #2 rod failed and the piston made a nice hole in the block. No external damage to the oil pan or anything. No flooding or anything. No idea why it could have failed. With 61k mi on the odo, they suggest I take it to Porsche. Again. Otherwise, I'm looking at $22k + tax to have a used motor with more miles installed.

I have it towed to the Porsche dealer the next day. "I've never seen this happen before." They quote me $5k to pull the motor and tear it down to find out what happened. "Porsche will need to know before they offer any help. They also will not cover this procedure to find the diagnosis." Uh, what? So $5k just to see if Porsche will help me out. And how much to have another motor put in?

$42,000.00 + tax.

OMG. And will Porsche help me out? "Highly unlikely." Why? Because I didn't buy the car new from Porsche. I didn't buy it used from a Porsche dealer. I needed to have purchased 2-3 cars from Porsche and all my servicing done at Porsche. The previous owner too. I only had $6k in repairs on file with Porsche and the rest from my indy. But, even if Porsche did help, it would be maybe 50% at best. That still left more than I owed on the car. My heart broke because I knew I would never drive the car again.

This week I sold it as is to car brain. Afterwards, I was still out about another $7k so I paid it off and have cut my losses.

That Porsche would have found lightning ! I have never heard so many horror stories that never buy a preowned Porsche without any warranty ! This is total Bullshit on a Premium brand !

 

Based on my personal experience. . . . I love my Macan. . . . But, I’d never own one without the warranty.

It’s not the car . . . But, the ridiculously screwed up dealer network.

They act like it’s an expensive car. . . . Our well equipped Macan was less than our Audi, our Jeep Grand Cherokee, lots less than the Ford F-250 and $25k less than her F-350 “farm truck”.

But parts are insanely expensive, purchased through a dealer and lately someone did a comparison of an itemized bill some dealer stuck a female owner with.

It‘s just bad form.

I really enjoy the car, the handling and the people. But ownership is not a pleasant experience whenever it involves dealer interface.

I’ve found a dealer I feel pretty good about but the place I bought the car was right our of a cheap Jersey sitcom

 

Based on my personal experience. . . . I love my Macan. . . . But, I’d never own one without the warranty.

It’s not the car . . . But, the ridiculously screwed up dealer network.

They act like it’s an expensive car. . . . Our well equipped Macan was less than our Audi, our Jeep Grand Cherokee, lots less than the Ford F-250 and $25k less than her F-350 “farm truck”.

But parts are insanely expensive, purchased through a dealer and lately someone did a comparison of an itemized bill some dealer stuck a female owner with.

It‘s just bad form.

I really enjoy the car, the handling and the people. But ownership is not a pleasant experience whenever it involves dealer interface.

I’ve found a dealer I feel pretty good about but the place I bought the car was right our of a cheap Jersey sitcom

Honestly, I’ve owned my 2017 turbo since picking it up at 14,000 kms from the local Porsche dealer in 2019. It has 93,000 kms on it now. I didn’t intend to drive it this much but I remain over the moon with it, drive it hard but with respect, and have had no issues at all until this month when a rear wheel bearing went - I think it was a bad pothole I simply missed. Porsche here fixed it under warranty. How wonderful is that? It’s the best car I ever owned by far and long may it last.
My experience at the local dealer has been outstanding and even though the servicing is not cheap, they sweat the details, do more than any other dealership I have experience with and go the extra mile. I mean, who covers a wheel bearing under warrantee at 93,000 kms?? And I didn’t ask them to, they just did!
I love Porsche.

 

From reading through posts here, it appears that engine oil leaks are not rare with the Macan. I'm looking to buy a used higher mileage 2016 or 2017 Macan. How big of a concern is the oil leak potential? Should I look for a vehicle that has had the repair done for oil leak? Is it worth paying more to buy a Macan with CPO? Thanks!

 

Yes, it is worth the money to get the CPO. Personally I would invest into an extended warrenty once the CPO has expired. But, one can take their chances if they want.