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Custom Subwoofer Box and Amp Installation

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I previously posted in the ‘Upgrades to CDR+?’ thread that I greatly improved the base audio in my 2016 Macan S by installing a Memphis Audio 10” powered subwoofer. It is true that the system sounded a whole lot better with the addition of the sub, but after listening to the upgraded sound system for a while I decided it could be better. The bass was not as deep as I would have liked, and it sounded a little boomy, which is typical of a ported subwoofer box such as the Memphis Audio sub.

So I started reading and doing a lot of research and ultimately decided to replace the Memphis sub with a custom sub box and a separate sub amp. I had two main criteria for the subwoofer: I wanted to keep my spare tire and I wanted to place the sub in the area under the rear cargo lid, in the same location as a Bose sub in a Bose equipped Macan. My conclusion was the best installation I had seen so far was in the Macan belonging to @VirtualAndrew so I decided to plagiarize a little and somewhat mimic his installation.

I knew the sub box was going to be a lot of work, so before I started a permanent installation I went back to Crutchfield and came home with a JL Audio CS110LG-TW3 sub box, and a JL Audio JX500/1D mono amp. Because of the power requirement of the amp, I also bought a new sub installation wire kit with a #4 power wire. The wire kit I had bought for the Memphis Audio installation had a #8 power wire, which is too small for this amp. The sub speaker in the sub box is a JL Audio 10TW3-4, which is the same speaker that was used in the @VirtualAndrew installation. This particular speaker gets a lot of positive reviews. If the temporary setup sounded good I would cannibalize the parts from the sub box for my custom installation. After hooking up everything in the Macan it was WOW, this really sounds GOOD. It definitely was what I was looking for, so I proceeded with the custom installation.

The first order of business was to permanently install the amp. I have an aversion to drilling holes in cars, so I decided to use Clickbond 10-24 studs for the attachment of the amp to the car. Clickbond has a clever installation system, their products are used in the aerospace industry, I had personally used them before, so I felt certain this would work well. A temporary plastic fixture holds the studs in place while the adhesive sets up. The studs need to attach to bare metal, so I marked the mounting locations, masked off the areas with tape, and sanded the paint off the attachment areas. I left some paint at the perimeter of the attachment so that the stud mount and adhesive cover the bare metal and a small area of paint at the perimeter on the stud base. This way there will not be a rust problem later on as the bare areas are totally covered. I then made up some mounting brackets with 0.100” aluminum and I installed the amp and new power cable.http://www.macanforum.com/forum/att...lectronics/130426d1462541703-custom-subwoofer-box-amp-installation-img_0246.jpg
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The next order of business was to make the sub box and then cover it in trunk carpet material. The box itself was a bit of a challenge. JL Audio specifies 0.5 cubic feet of sub box volume for the 10TW3-4 speaker. In order to do that, the sub would have to be close to the deck lid, and because of that I would not be able to use the speaker grill. That is not a major problem because the deck lid will keep debris off the speaker cone. I had to offset to speaker to the right a little so that the deck lid handle would not hit the speaker when the lid is closed. As it turned out the speaker is about ½” below the deck lid.

I used 1/2” MDF that I picked up at Home Depot. This is the same thickness material that was used in the JL Audio sub box. Over time a sub can destroy a sub box from pressure waves, so the box needed to be internally braced.

The floor of the sub box was cut with a 33.5* angle, so that it nestles in the angle in the car. Making the curve to match the spare tire was a bit of a challenge. To do that I made approximately 90 saw kerfs in a piece of MDF. I had marked the tire outline on the floor of the sub box with a sharpie. Using epoxy resin and a lot of clamps I carefully aligned the board with the sharpie line. After the resin set up I filled the saw kerfs with a slurry of epoxy resin and flox (flocked cotton), and squeeged it in the grooves. The flox makes the epoxy thick so that it won’t run out of the grooves, and once cured it is as hard as a rock. After that I covered the radius of the curve inside the box with two layers of bias cut medium weight glass cloth.http://www.macanforum.com/forum/att...lectronics/130498d1462541958-custom-subwoofer-box-amp-installation-img_0265.jpg
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The next order of business was to install internal braces, and mark the location of the cutout for the speaker. The actual hole cut was done using a zip saw with a circle cutting jig. The hole came out fine, but it took a number of trial and error cuts with scrap material to adjust the jig to get the specified 9.625” hole diameter. After that I attached the lid with epoxy mixed with Cab-O-Sil. Cab-O-Sil is a thickening agent for epoxy resins.

After the lid was on I used a flush trim router bit to trim the edges, and after that I used a round-over bit to give the edges a nice radius. I then cut the hole for the speaker wire connector receptacle, and covered the box with trunk carpet material. Last but not least was filling the box with acoustic wadding and mounting the sub in the box

During construction of the box I used Titebond III wood glue until the first use of epoxy. After I made the piece to fit around the tire, epoxy adhesives were used for the rest of the build since wood glue will not adhere to epoxy. I also used an 18 gauge brad nailer to assemble the box.

The sub sounds tremendous, and it sounds as good as the JL Audio box. The bass is very deep and tight. The project was a lot of work, but I am glad that I did it. I dropped by the dealer and showed the installation to the SA. When he looked at it all I got was ‘Whoa! Dude!’ After he listened to it I got the same response. :)
 

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#38 ·
dang.
so to access it i have to remove the pcm unit and reconnect wires there.. a little bit more complicated subwoofer addon in this case
i just had the pcm unit removed for backup/front camera a few days ago
guess in order to do subwoofer i have to disassamble everything again..
 
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I went with the smaller box. It's the correct cubic feet for the woofer. And my amp was too large to fit in front of the box, so it's off to the side.

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I don't think you could get a 10" sub in the Bose plastic box, and if I was going to the trouble I wanted the 10" at least.

Also added JL Audio C2-075ct 3/4" silk dome tweeters to the front and rear door tweeter locations, along with Audison AP 4 midranges to the front doors and Audison Voce AV 3.0 midranges to the rear D Pillar. Removed the dash center channel.

Couldn't be happier. Loud clear wonderful sound. Light years ahead of the Bose system, that is for sure.
You’ll need to try to find a Burmester box, which has a 10” subwoofer. But, if I had to do this again, I do exactly what I did… build my own box. Or have someone build it for me.
 
#51 ·
You’ll need to try to find a Burmester box, which has a 10” subwoofer.
i was curious to see if i could find one of these so i looked it up. i found a lot of hits of panemera burmester subs, which are 10", but this is the one i found for the macan. given the amount of space from the top of the box to the woofer, it looks to me like this is an 8" also.

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#44 ·
hi looking to replacing my stereo and wanted to put sub woofer in the spare tire area, anyone have any info on where
to get a sub box built thank you
I decided with the advice of many stereo installers to remove the tire altogether and installed a bigger sub and amplifier. The area is too small for a quality sounding sub. Research the size of sub box requirements needed. Look on YouTube for Macan sound system upgrades to get ideas. Good luck
 
#55 ·
Hi did you ever go to Ak for your sub box ? I’m having him build one for me , but I’m in Massachusetts, and was wondering if you Had shown him your car. I’m taking the spare out and using that space .. Any info would help , thank you Julie
Hi Gregg do you have a photo of your sub box Ak is making mine but just trying g to make sure we utilize the space thank you
I have a photo a few posts up. I ordered the standard one they have which slides into the same spot as the Bose sub. I did not use the area where the spare tire is.

And with a 10" good quality sub it's all I would want. With some songs feels like someone is punching the back of your seat. About 1,000 times improvement over the Bose which is really inadequate bordering on annoying.
 
#56 · (Edited)
The JL 10TW3 woofer ($449) has a recommended sealed enclosure volume of 0.5 cuft, which is a good match for the larger 0.53 CuFt AK box (16" wide x 12" tall x 9" deep), with and F3 output at 40Hz.

The JL 10TW1 woofer ($349) should be used with the smaller 0.35 CuFt AK box (16" wide x 12" tall x 4.9" deep), with a higher F3 output at 47 Hz.
 
#64 ·
Would you happen to remember which wires they were? As in, what color? I used the subwoofer wires just before the subwoofer amp and now I’m thinking that you’re correct about the response. Mine does sound a little weak at some frequencies. I’m probably going to try your method and find out.
 
#66 ·
Front driver door woofer:
Minus: White wire with Brown stripe
Plus: White wire with Red stripe
Awesome, is there a guide for Sound Package Plus on what color each speaker wire is what out of the back of the headunit? I'm planning to install a DSP+AMP and didn't take pics when I rewired all the speakers.

Also, does the front driver door woofer have an internal crossover from the headunit itself so it only gets mid bass and bass signals?
 
#67 · (Edited)
I don't have any info on the standard "Sound Package" of the Macan, only the Bose and Bermester systems.

For the pre-2017 (or 2016?) Bose system, there is only a passive cross-over cap for the front tweeter, which is wired across the front door woofer. The woofer does not have a passive cross-over inductor.

For the 2018(?) and later Bose system, the front tweeter got its own amp channel, with an active cross-over filter, and the cap was eliminated.