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Cost of Brakes and Rotor Service

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#1 ·
What are people paying for brakes and at what mileage are they being replaced? I had a warning light come on after only 12K miles. Didn't think it was a real alert, but apparently it was! I don't the ride brakes or track my Macan, so didn't understand how it was even possible to wear them down so fast. I had to replace all brakes and rotors at a cost of $2000 at dealer.
 
#116 ·
Happy New Year Macaners!!!!


Have a 2017 Macan S (just over 24 months old) with 57,000 miles and Brake Warnings just came on, Yellow yesterday and red warning added today. Porsche stating approx. 3K Canadian for all 4 corners...ouch. Guess that's the cost every two years with all the mileage I'm piling up. Plugs just changed a few weeks ago, $700......ouch...I may do these myself next time around....Vroooom!!
 
#119 ·
No disc change?
 
#121 ·
About 3 Years ago, when I had my '02 Boxster, 5 speed, lapis blue, I needed pads, discs and wear warning indicators replaced. A friend and member of the PCA Shenandoah Region had me out to his place with a concrete garage floor and an asphalt driveway. He had an '00 white Boxster S, 6 speed, that he autocrossed regularly, and did all his own work.We got the parts from an outlet similar to Pelican parts, for about $200-$300 (don't have the receipts, as I sold it to a guy from DC and all the receipts went with him). We jacked up the fronts and did them, then the rears. We had about 3 hours in the entire project at $35/hour. You might find a similar relationship with an owner in your club. I found it to be an opportunity to get to know my friend better and to learn a lot about my vehicle. We also replaced the serpentine belt, located behind the seats and beneath an aluminum cover. The new belt was very tight so we laid it out on the asphalt for a coupla hours to soften it up. This enabled us to get the belt on without too much trouble. By the way, I didn't track the Boxster, so I used Kumho Ecsta 721s (?) AS. Very good on the dry and exceptional in the rain. Drove it mostly weekends or warm weekday afternoons with the top down if I got home early enough. Splendid vehicle with, by far, the best a** on the road.
 
#122 ·
I just came back from regular annual service. They advised me that brakes would be needed soon, which included front/rear pads+rotors.
I have about 34K miles on the car, but mostly city traffic.

The quote was for 2800$ and probably without taxes.

Time to look for an Indy and see what they have to say.
 
#123 ·
I bought all the parts at 40k for my 16 turbo from partscontainer on ebay and a few of the bolts from suncoast Porsche. i spent about $1350 total. I have a Por II unit for release the emergency brake and save your a lot of time. The whole job is very easy and quick. I spent extra time cleaning as much of the brake dust of all components with out being ridiculous.
Bled them as well with a master cylinder pump bottle from Schwaben. Definitely do this every two years the color difference in the fluid over time is very visible which mean water and age is an issue.
 
#124 ·
If parts total cost close to $1500, I think $2000 including labor at an Indy shop is quite reasonable.
 
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#125 ·
zimmerman appears to be the oem replacement
Total cost of front and rear (rotors + pads with sensors) just under $1500AUD

I was tossing up between zimmerman oem and dba t2 slotted (not much of a price difference) - decided to go with dba t2 slotted and ebc yellow stuff pads
 
#126 ·
Does Porsche routinely do a brake fluid flush along with pads, rotors & sensors replacement?

I will need R brakes "soon" & not too long b4 F brakes:
Per Porsche tech comments:
"Rear brakes: into sensor close to wire
Front brakes: Close to the sensor"

I'm @ ~ 36K miles & do mostly city driving.

Quoted $950 R & $1400 F, T = 2350. I don't think that includes tax & maybe shop fees.
I don't think I'll get F&R done same time if I can drive several thousand more miles on F.
jzwu says can drive another 5k miles with brake sensor light on if going to change rotors as well.
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https://www.macanforum.com/forum/co...om/forum/complaints/168811-macan-s-requires-pads-rotors-changed-together-4.html

Waiting on Indy Porsche specialty shop quote.
 
#127 ·
Brake fluid should be flushed after the brake pad change.
 
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#128 ·
Just got my 2017 GTS back from my local Porsche dealer. Had new brake pads and new rotors installed on the front and the rears. Got approximately 22,000 miles out of the last set of brake pads. I live on a hill so that may be a reason I don't get longer mileage from the pads. The rotors on the front and rear were replaced for the first time during this visit, GTS has 43,000 miles on it. I did not replace the rotors during the first brake pad service because they were within spec but now at 43,000 miles they were below spec and too worn. Cost me $2100 out the door for everything, including tax and labor. Ouch! Dealer had a 15% coupon they applied. I know I can get it done cheaper at an independent shop but I like the convenience of a new loaner to drive to work, dealer will warranty the work, genuine Porsche parts, etc. BTW, I had a 2019 base Macan loaner and it was a nice ride and I was impressed with it.
 
#130 ·
I am surprised to hear many of you have to change brake rotor and pads lesson 40,000 miles. I just had 40K miles service done at the dealer and I was told my pads are in great shape. I do have PTV+ in my Macan PP, do mostly highway driving and never ride on thr brake. However when times come I would have my brake done at the dealer and it’s good to know the cost.

John


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#131 ·
I’m looking at $2600 (incl tax) after $250 discount for disk and pad replacements in front ($1500) and rear ($1100) for my 2015 Macan Turbo. This is from Bethesda Porsche (great experience in the past). Three questions:

1 - what cost could I expect from an independent shop for the same work?

2 - any recommended shops in the DC metro area?

3 - what’s the estimate miles I could continue to drive - warning light just came on and says safe to drive.

Thanks!




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#133 ·
Approaching 40k and also need to replace brakes. I got a quote for only the 40k service from the dealer, it amounted to $2300!! I contacted another dealer and an independent shop with a list of tasks (40k items listed in the manual) and hope to get a better itemized quote.

In the meantime, I have ordered rotors, pads, wear sensors and caliper bolts and plan to do the work at the weekend. I will post any pictures or observations.

For Info. here is the parts list amounting to $836 (Jan 2020, from pelicanparts)


Brake Caliper Bolt (14 X 115 mm) (Front Left or Right)(2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)(m)
Part #: WHT-004-571-M100
$4.57​
4​
$18.28​
Brake Pad Set (Rear) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 9A7-698-451-00-OEM
$115.25​
1​
$115.25​
Brake Pad Hardware Kit (Mounting Parts, Front) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 970-351-959-01-M100
$25.50​
2​
$51.00​
Brake Pad Sensor (Rear Left or Right) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 4G0-615-121-OEM
$14.50​
1​
$14.50​
Brake Pad Sensor (Front Left or Right) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 95B-907-253-M163
$17.00​
2​
$34.00​
Brake Pad Set (Front) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 971-698-151-E-M73
$164.50​
1​
$164.50​
Brake Disc (Rear Left or Right) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 95B-615-601-G-M359
$65.50​
2​
$131.00​
Brake Disc (Front Left) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 95B-615-301-G-M359
$147.00​
1​
$147.00​
Brake Disc (Front Right) (2017 Porsche Macan GTS Sport Utility)
Part #: 95B-615-302-G-M359
$147.25​
1​
$147.25​
 
#134 ·
OP:

Please link this thread to the following brake DIY, etc. thread:




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Next time, please search the forum before creating a new thread to see if your particular has already (likely!)
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#135 ·
@iconoclast, thank you for the info on the brake/rotor cost. I just had master cylinder replaced and asked for a brake fluid flush since I am about a month away from the 2 year mark since the last replace. I am at 47K miles and they said I may have another 1K to go before the fronts hit the sensor to trigger the message. The quote they gave me for front brake rotors and pad with labor is $1,440 at $150 labor rate. I wonder why @jzwu is stating that brake fluid must be changed after the brake service. I hope not since I just had it done. The interesting part is that my rears are good even though we have PTV+ and have over a thousand round about in the areas so we are twisting around all day every day. I am conviced that PTV+ makes rear brakes last longer for a simple reason that it does light automatic braking vs manual hard breaking by the driver to slow down in/during/out of turns.
 
#136 ·
I don’t know why I said that, but that was 6 months ago. ;)
 
#137 ·
I think I had asked if during a brake job, does Porsche (or any mechanic) routinely flush/replace brake fluid.
I didn't want to pay for a brake fluid change only to get a brake job a few months later & have it done again.

I bought a tool to check the moisture content of my brake fluid since I live in a dry climate & after 5 years, it is typically still < 1%.
YMMV.
 
#138 ·
I have little or no experience regarding most DIY projects with cars, because I don't have ramps, lifts, crawlers, etc., and I'm too old and creaky for most of that kind of work, anyway.

However, I have (and continue to) change brake pads on motorcycles, and never messed with the fluid at the same time. The fluid is a closed system, and moving the calipers out of the way, to work on, replace the pads, etc., doesn't open that system. And -- at other times -- I change the fluid.

So separate projects, separate systems, related only in that the combination of pads and fluid (and master cylinder and calipers) stops the vehicle. I don't see why this would be any different with cars (but I've been wrong before).
 
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By opening open the brake reservoir, maybe also pulling the fluid out from there, i.e keeping it open for some time. Opening the new bottle of brake fluid and pouring it in you have probably introduced more water in the form of humidity than you started with because brake fluid is hygroscopic Brake fluid - Wikipedia

I worked as a GM mechanic for 10 years and unless we did a brake job including changing out the calipers or caliper seals we were never ever advised to completely flush the fluid and during that time I never heard of a reasonably maintained GM vehicle losing it brakes because it boiled the fluid due to water or degradation of the fluid.

If the manufactures were concerned about not introducing humidity into the system there would be a way to fill the fluid without exposing the reservoir to air. Additionally, the retail price a brake fluid tester is about $7 so the senors would be say a dollar, tell me they could not integrate this sensor into the brake warning system economically if they were so concerned.

This whole brake fluid changing at 30k intervals is costly for the average punter (i.e. paying a dealer to do it!), useless and as I argue above possibly even counter intuitive.
 
#142 ·
I bet the brake fluid used in those GM cars is DOT 3.
 
#140 ·
I got a quote for rear brake job on my Macan from an Indy with a good reputation. Should be ~ $200 < dealer.

I asked if they use Genuine Porsche OEM parts.

Reply was they use OEM parts but it will not say “Porsche” on the box.
They do not use aftermarket parts. They use brake parts from the same companies that supply Porsche (i.e. OEM)

Does anyone know what brand of pads & rotors I should accept?

IDK which brands are “good” & which are cheap, aftermarket junk.

I know Porsche has their pads & rotors made by someone else. Probably a few suppliers. Are those names known?

I would hate to end up with inferior, problematic brakes due to cheap parts.
 
#141 ·
Sebro rotors and Textar pads is what we used at the shop for years with no issues.
Sebro/Textar was the factory equipment for decades on Porsche, now on the Macan and on the Cayenne they use Akebono pads and I believe that also rotors but I can't confirm.
Textar pads are messy, they produce a lot of dust but their performance is great.
 
#145 ·
I retract what I said about flushing brake fluid after a brake job. ;)