[macan282]

Guys this is still the best post ive read on the x4 forum, i hope the poster on that forum is really a very hot chick!

i havent even seen lambos (probably one of the most ostentatious cars) get this treatment ....*honks*

from the x4 forum--Just had mine a few days, men the looks I get, the honks and occasional pic snappers it's now becoming ridiculous especially when my LED and Angel eyes are on. Could also contribute this to the Melbourne Red Xline with Beige interior which is absolutely stunning in person!

Macan just doesn't have that presence and uniqueness!

 

[Inamik75]

No one has said X4 drives better than Macan on the flip side the X4 handles pretty good and all reviews vs Macan attest to it. Everyone will have a preference and styling is very personal thing and I love my X4 and will still be on this forum until Porsche produce a better Macan especially tech for it's the logical progression from BMW/Audi/Merc as all have mentioned. Not everyone is willing to make that compromise on Tech.
The X4 vs Macan has been beaten down to pulp in another thread here --->> http://www.macanforum.com/forum/porsche-macan-versus-competition/22073-macan-v-x4.html

It's like Apple vs Samsung people have different tastes, Both vehicles have their Cons and compromises, but each to his own, its your money anyways!

 

[jrjunior31]

I like BMWs. BMW has much better tech than Porsche. The overhead view cameras on the BMW are awesome. I like the iDrive and BMW's nav system is very good. The interior of BMWs feels roomier and more luxurious to me.

All of that, to me, is secondary to the driving experience. The Macan is simply so much better to drive. The power and handling and shifting and cockpit and exhaust note of the Macan really does make you feel you're in a sports car with a seat that's way too far off the ground. The BMW feels like a very good solid compact sports utility vehicle.

And for me the driving experience of the Macan was what's important. If someone is looking for an ultimate drive out of their machine then the X4 is simply no substitute for the Macan. But to each his or her own.

Oh, and my personal opinion is that the Macan looks great and the X4 looks like a butt.

The BMW interior felt more luxurious? Have they made a huge upgrade to the interior recently? This was what I liked least about recent model BMWs. Their seats are great, but as far as the leather and other materials in the cabin I thought they were behind Audi (and well behind Porsche) in terms of refinement and quality, even in their higher end models.

Edit: It's well documented that their tech is much better, just referring to refinement and overall quality of materials.

 

[Inamik75]

The BMW interior felt more luxurious? Have they made a huge upgrade to the interior recently? This was what I liked least about recent model BMWs. Their seats are great, but as far as the leather and other materials in the cabin I thought they were behind Audi (and well behind Porsche) in terms of refinement and quality, even in their higher end models.

Edit: It's well documented that their tech is much better, just referring to refinement and overall quality of materials.

Unless you go above the X5 and 5 series, below that not many options like Leather dash, multi colored seats etc are available. the new X6 interior is wow! Google it!

 

[K-A]

Guys this is still the best post ive read on the x4 forum, i hope the poster on that forum is really a very hot chick!

i havent even seen lambos (probably one of the most ostentatious cars) get this treatment ....*honks*

from the x4 forum--Just had mine a few days, men the looks I get, the honks and occasional pic snappers it's now becoming ridiculous especially when my LED and Angel eyes are on. Could also contribute this to the Melbourne Red Xline with Beige interior which is absolutely stunning in person!

Macan just doesn't have that presence and uniqueness!

LOL. As if Angel Eyes aren't on almost every car nowadays, look great, but common. Porsche's 4 points, that's actually exclusive.

As for interior. NO WAY. The Macan annihilates any BMW interior under the 5 Series, and IMO even is nicer than most above the 5 Series. The fit/finish, materials and refinement is impeccable to me, above general BMW and above my 5 which has a very good interior. The 5+ cars mostly have beautiful interiors but under the 5, they've simply gone crap. The 3 and all based around it have very downmarket and clearly cost cut interiors for BMW.

BMW tech is amongst the best. Porsche isn't about tech unless it's engineering related and performance tech (which they're second to none). Porsche is about the drive, design, mechanics, and tech that can enhance all of those things. thus it's more emotionally driven. I'll miss the HUD and kick open trunk (which doesn't work great), but I'm not that focused on car tech.

Is it true that you can't have LED taillights on the X4? Talk about simple and fundamental compromise on tech and design.

 

[shaunmed]

I like BMW too but they have a HUGE line up of cars and some of them are lame. The X4 may be a good performer but it is HEINOUSLY fugly. It looks like a German Pontiac Aztek and I will laugh at every one I see going down the road.

Other ugly BMWs, the 1 series, X3 and GT.

Porsche is not without ugly cars either. I find the Panamera repellent in every way and the Cayenne is pretty **** ugly too but in previous years it was bar none the ugliest SUV on the road with its used bar of soap styling and 400 front air intakes.

 

[santastico]

You can get WOW Porsche interiors in the Macan. All you have to do is to pay for it. Same with the BMW. My X5 has an OK interior because I did not want to pay for it. In my opinion a mid range Macan interior is way better than the mid range BMW interior. BTW, until BMW decides to change that pre-historic instrument cluster they won't see my money anymore. And yes, the X4 still has the old style cluster.

Unless you go above the X5 and 5 series, below that not many options like Leather dash, multi colored seats etc are available. the new X6 interior is wow! Google it!

 

[Inamik75]

Porsche is not without ugly cars either. I find the Panamera repellent in every way and the Cayenne is pretty **** ugly too but in previous years it was bar none the ugliest SUV on the road with its used bar of soap styling and 400 front air intakes.

True, new Cayenne Still ugly. Like I said in the previous thread, ugly is the new beautiful:laugh:

 

[L0U]

I seriously doubt any magazine will pick the x4 over the now ancient sq5. The Macan won't even be in the same comparison.

Although the m3 was compared to it already, lol.


Bmw may be ok, but they are about as special as a Ford or Mazda.

 

[K-A]

The first Cayenne was hideous. The second is bland in basic spec BUT in GTS or Turbo S trim I think is gorgeous with the full body paint, gloss black window trim and lowered suspension. Which is why I anticipate the Macan with the same treatment (lower, SportDesign package with even more aggressive front, gloss black window trim, painted lower trim with color coded spoiler and diffuser just like Cayenne GTS/Turbo S) will be a whole different beast from the standard Macan and look stunning.

The Macan is capable of being more "head turning" than any SUV out there, and probably still will be standard spec vs standard spec, but just like with everything Porsche, you have to pay extra to truly get that.

 

[remgb]

Unless you go above the X5 and 5 series, below that not many options like Leather dash, multi colored seats etc are available. the new X6 interior is wow! Google it!

Reserving good interiors for 5+ levels and the fact that they make you choose packages is what really pisses me off with BMW. X5 has a really good interior, but they do not give you those options or similar high standard interior for anything lower in the hierarchy. Also if I need paddles and heated steering, I have to select a bunch of packages and trims. Just hated that...

X5 was too big to be sporty for me... I do agree that a lot of the cabin tech like Nav and online interfaces are much better in BMW. Anyways Good luck with your X4.

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[Owerr]

I don't know how anyone can justify the ugliness of a X4. Last time i saw one in person, the front looked rather ok, but the back just looks hideous and poorly designed.

Honestly the first time i saw it in the press photos i went "are you f'ing kidding me?"

I feel bad for those who bought it and are trying so hard to justify their purchase. Seriously, get a x3 or something.

 

[98base]

No need to stoop down to that level guys. Most likely Porsche envy at work. Nothing to see here, lets move on

 

[RJMcInnis]

I think it looks fine, but I wanted a full leather interior, and a better stereo than available. Almost bought an X5 50 to get it, but still like the Macan better. Interesting that so many here are defending the Macan on this forum. Preacher? Here is your Choir... LOL.

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

LOL. As if Angel Eyes aren't on almost every car nowadays, look great, but common. Porsche's 4 points, that's actually exclusive.

As for interior. NO WAY. The Macan annihilates any BMW interior under the 5 Series, and IMO even is nicer than most above the 5 Series. The fit/finish, materials and refinement is impeccable to me, above general BMW and above my 5 which has a very good interior. The 5+ cars mostly have beautiful interiors but under the 5, they've simply gone crap. The 3 and all based around it have very downmarket and clearly cost cut interiors for BMW.

BMW tech is amongst the best. Porsche isn't about tech unless it's engineering related and performance tech (which they're second to none). Porsche is about the drive, design, mechanics, and tech that can enhance all of those things. thus it's more emotionally driven. I'll miss the HUD and kick open trunk (which doesn't work great), but I'm not that focused on car tech.

Is it true that you can't have LED taillights on the X4? Talk about simple and fundamental compromise on tech and design.

LED headlights are an option for the X4, it is part of the Lighting Package.

 

[JRB]

LED headlights are an option for the X4, it is part of the Lighting Package.

I think he said taillights.

 

[souldriven]

I son't want to get killed on this thread, but I really love my '08 335. I put 102k miles relatively problem free, and I've decided to hang on to it. No rattles, still get comments on the looks.

I'm looking forward to being in the P-car camp, but I'm not gonna disown BMW.

 

[Owerr]

I son't want to get killed on this thread, but I really love my '08 335. I put 102k miles relatively problem free, and I've decided to hang on to it. No rattles, still get comments on the looks.

I'm looking forward to being in the P-car camp, but I'm not gonna disown BMW.

I loved my 09 335i as well, and always wanted to get back into another BMW since i moved to the states. I tried the latest 3 series as well as the 4 and 4 gran coupe, but just couldn't stand the cheap feeling you get when you're in the cabin.

The interior material have been downgraded significantly since the 09 model i drove for 3 years. The vault gate feeling you get when opening and closing the door is no longer there either, instead it felt not much different than the door from a honda.

The design of the 4 gran coupe was also significantly compromised just to fill in a niche market gap, just like the x4. It has the exact same body as a normal 4 series, but with 4 doors, like a 3 series... WHAT?! The back doors are extremely awkward and small. Instead of designing a brand new chasis for a gran coupe, they took the easy way out and just did whatever costed the least amount of money.

I heard for the upcoming models, they are planning to make the 3 and 5 series share the same chassis to further save cost.

I don't diss companies for no reason, but the minute i test drove the macan after walking away from the bmw dealership unsatisfied, i was blown away. Everything from interior to the solidness of the car was in an entire different class compared to the 3/4 series.

I would still consider an M, but i just wished their quality and feeling across the lines was still on par with the older BMWs i used to love.

 

[K-A]

LED headlights are an option for the X4, it is part of the Lighting Package.

I think he said taillights.

Yeah, I heard the taillights are halogen? Like the 3? Would be a shame. Even an M3/M4 come with halogen taillights! Crazy.

I son't want to get killed on this thread, but I really love my '08 335. I put 102k miles relatively problem free, and I've decided to hang on to it. No rattles, still get comments on the looks.

I'm looking forward to being in the P-car camp, but I'm not gonna disown BMW.

No way, you won't get that. The E90 is very highly regarded in dynamics and many think it has a better interior than the F30 3.

My second pick to the Macan was the M3, which did have practically enough headroom but not as much as the Macan, and then after that the 640i Gran Coupe which I really like but is a little too vertically cramped. X5 had terrible headroom for such a boxy family size SUV, and is just way too much of a "wagon truck" for me. Though I think it's the best SUV of that size/type in its price range (above it and Cayenne GTS for sure).

I've been mostly happy with BMW. Will consider another one. But Porsche was the aspiration and a trophy in itself, and the Macan even sans the badge the best product and by far value to me.

 

[MrSam]

You can all say what you want but i miss my bmw HUD, but then i see my exact same car 50 times a day and i remember why i chose a porsche this time..

And after owning a f30 series for 3 years no way i was getting an m3/m4 with the same interior