[signde]

I wouldn’t trust the pictures in the listing. Ask the vendor for actual pictures of the product they’re selling. Then you have some recourse if it’s different on arrival. I’ve seen many listings that use pictures of multiple clearly different units.

You could be a pioneer and go for one of the Qualcomm FYT units with the better vent routing. If this works well out of the box, the aftermarket support from XDA or here becomes significantly less important. Especially if relying on CarPlay/AA, the base Android system is less important. An example of an issue that might not have an easy solution in this case would be the steering wheel controls.

Yeah I touched on this earlier, the listings are dumpster fires, often with pictures of multiple different units. Asking for actual pictures is what I have been doing. I've copy pasta'd the same question to a dozen sellers now.

I don't care about the base Android system, 99% of the time I will be in CarPlay.

I feel like I have a clear handle on the original FYT unit versus the two versions of the Topway now. Can you ELI5 to me how I can differentiate the newer Qualcomm FYT unit from the older one? Does this require a picture from the Android about device screen?

I do care about the steering controls working and the joker button doing track advance as well.

 

[Santirx]

As someone who hasn't installed one of these yet, I beg to differ that they are in no shape or form similar.

The front of the updated Topway units look almost identical to your FYT unit now minus different labels around the knobs and slightly different markings on the knobs.

The back of course is a different story. Now that I know what to look for there I'm having a very hard time finding a listing that doesn't look like a Topway.

I've messaged about ten different sellers asking for pictures, only one of which looks like they have the FYT unit based on the listings.

I don’t know what to tell you then. It looks somewhat similar on the surface, but they are not. As I said before, they added the vent closure mechanism and deleted the buttons, but that’s about it. You’ll be very disappointed with the fitment and trims.

The vent ducts are still severely restricted, so almost no air will come out of those vents. The trims will not cover parts of the dashboard and you will be left with some holes and depressions that are there to make sure PCM3.1 and original vents fit, but that this unit will not hide...

Look at my FYT unit review video. I compare both units there. And then you’ll see the night and day difference.

But, if you want to get the topway unit, be my guest. Don’t tell me I didn’t warn you though…☺

 

[Santirx]

I wouldn’t trust the pictures in the listing. Ask the vendor for actual pictures of the product they’re selling. Then you have some recourse if it’s different on arrival. I’ve seen many listings that use pictures of multiple clearly different units.

You could be a pioneer and go for one of the Qualcomm FYT units with the better vent routing. If this works well out of the box, the aftermarket support from XDA or here becomes significantly less important. Especially if relying on CarPlay/AA, the base Android system is less important. An example of an issue that might not have an easy solution in this case would be the steering wheel controls.

The newer units that looks like our FYT units but don’t have the dials to close the vents (see photo below) allow you to customize steering wheel controls via settings configuration. This is confirmed by someone I know has one. Saw him doing this in a video.

 

[drawz]

Yeah I touched on this earlier, the listings are dumpster fires, often with pictures of multiple different units. Asking for actual pictures is what I have been doing. I've copy pasta'd the same question to a dozen sellers now.

I don't care about the base Android system, 99% of the time I will be in CarPlay.

I feel like I have a clear handle on the original FYT unit versus the two versions of the Topway now. Can you ELI5 to me how I can differentiate the newer Qualcomm FYT unit from the older one? Does this require a picture from the Android about device screen?

I do care about the steering controls working and the joker button doing track advance as well.

I would get the picture of the about device screen. And Santirx is right that these newer FYT Qualcomm units also seem to have no vent closure. We don’t know if the steering wheel controls can be changed on these units, although the general message on XDA is that these units are more locked down.

Keep in mind that FYT and Topway likely only make the mainboard and the software. Someone else is probably producing the screens, vents, trims, harness, MOST adapter, etc. and putting the full package together.

 

[signde]

I don’t know what to tell you then. It looks somewhat similar on the surface, but they are not. As I said before, they added the vent closure mechanism and deleted the buttons, but that’s about it. You’ll be very disappointed with the fitment and trims.

The vent ducts are still severely restricted, so almost no air will come out of those vents. The trims will not cover parts of the dashboard and you will be left with some holes and depressions that are there to make sure PCM3.1 and original vents fit, but that this unit will not hide...

Look at my FYT unit review video. I compare both units there. And then you’ll see the night and day difference.

But, if you want to get the topway unit, be my guest. Don’t tell me I didn’t warn you though…☺

I said the fronts look the same now but back is a different story. I was specifically referring to the fascia of the units. I also said I now understand the differences in the design of the vent internals.

I've been following this thread since the first post and have watched every video posted. I could be mistaken here but part of the confusion is that originally these units were not discussed as Topway and FYT, nor were your videos labeled as such. IIRC the second video was labeled as a DaiNav unit initially. As someone who is following but does not own one, there are a lot of nuances to keep up with.

As I stated several times now, I'm specifically after an FYT unit. I'll take the known limitations at this point over unknown ones.

 

[signde]

Many of these sellers I reached out to have replied. Some of them with as much nonsense as the listings, which I expected. I made a spreadsheet to keep track.

General takeaways -

• The Topwell units are the cheapest with a floor of around $675 shipped for the lowest storage option. I have no interest in these, even at the lower price.
• The newer FYT units are in the middle, around $730 shipped but the inability to close the vents and the unknowns around XDA support are turnoffs to me. I also read a pretty scathing review in one of the comments about crashing and lockups which does not inspire much confidence.
• The original FYT units are still the most expensive. I've not found any under $950 shipped which doesn't even include a Toslink converter.

The thought of getting one of these for $750 including a Toslink box was somewhat appealing until I realized that is the inferior unit.

At over $1000 when you factor in a Toslink box for the tried and true FYT unit, I'm having a hard time justifying.

 

[Teddis]

I paid more that that If you want this, may be better than never.
I also have not had a response from ACAR.......must be summer break. Did you determine this FYT or Yopway ? I have also asked them.

 

[signde]

I also have not had a response from ACAR.......must be summer break. Did you determine this FYT or Yopway ? I have also asked them.

They responding in the middle of the night asking for my email address, so I am still going back and forth with them.

I suspect their unit is the the newer FYT.

 

[Teddis]

They responding in the middle of the night asking for my email address, so I am still going back and forth with them.

I suspect their unit is the the newer FYT.

Ask for WA .......

 

[signde]

I was able to connect with Milo from ACARDASH on WhatsApp. Here are the pictures of their unit that are not also on the product listing:

Questions and replies:

Q: does it have optical toslink output?
A: Yes, have optical output

Q: is the board for this unit made by FYT? or Topwell? or another manufacturer?
A: MTK Another manufactuer

Q: do you know the resolution of the screen
A: 1920*720

Q: do you know which mediatek CPU it has?
A: mtk8667

Q: i have the bose system. do you provide the fiber box for pure digital passthrough or does the box you provide receive analog RCA which is converted to digital MOST?
A: Yes have optical fiber box

Q: and that is included automatically or do i have to purchase that separately?
A: Included

Q: do you know if the porsche steering wheel joker button can be programmed to skip tracks? this is a problem area for the FYT units.
A: Our unit steering wheel control works no problem

Q: will there be future firmware updates? if so who will provide those? is there a manufacturer website for them?
A: yes， we provide firmware upgrade

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This person could put on a clinic on how to answer a question without answering a question lol. Some quite unspecific answers but maybe that is the language barrier. At least they were responsive.

I am not convinced it comes with a straight digital to digital output chain. "have optical output" could refer to the MOST box pictured above, which could take analog RCA then sends as optical to the MOST system, particularly since I see a converter box with RCA outs as well. It could be the angle but I also don't see Toslink optical output on the back of the unit.
EDIT: The box pictured says digital coaxial input, so maybe it is pure digital.

Also a very non direct answer on the joker button.

I am guessing since this has a MediaTek processor it is not FYT or Topwell. Some poking around on XDA shows mentions of MTK8667 and FF_866X in this thread Junsun V1 8667Q. The rear of the unit looks similar to others there but not quite the same.

Anyone have any ideas on what this box is and/or if it has much aftermarket support?

My initial reaction is a lot of unknowns and I probably don't want to be the canary in the coal mine.

 

[drawz]

There are two different MOST adapters shown. One says MOST150 (ie for PCM 4) and the other says for PCM 3.1. The first one shows stereo analog RCA inputs. The second appears to be a single RCA in and says “coaxial digital” so that is probably digital to digital.

You would be a pioneer going with this unit. Limited support here or at XDA. Mediatek seems to be a less popular choice in this space. I also wouldn’t trust the answer about steering wheel controls - I bet every vendor says they work perfectly. And honestly, the FYT works almost perfectly out of the box in that regard (just the joker button is off, which nobody outside of the Porsche world has heard of).

Remember, the vendors are just resellers, so not really experts. It’s like asking the salesman at Best Buy 😂.

 

[Teddis]

Well, you need to hack the FYT to enable the real BT, and other areas to make it work awesome. If these work out of the box, or with direct support from ACAR, I would be very intersted in trying it. They do a lot of Porsche modles its seems. If you are using Bose.....a direct fiber connection may not provide noticebale sound difference......but maybe the rear fader will work ??

Inquire again with Joker button,with example, or ask for a video of it being activated......without effect on 12.3.

 

[signde]

Yeah I know they are just resellers, which is why I tried to pin them down on who actually makes it or supplies firmware updates.

Yes I edited my comment right after posting when I saw the "coaxial digital" part on the one box. That does make it slightly more appealing given the price. I'm still turned off by the inability to close the vents though. I also don't really want to be a pioneer - if the unit is really buggy I know I could return it but my time is more valuable than the hassle.

Regarding the joker button, my understanding is earlier in this thread there is a solution to get it working for the 1st gen FYT units? IIRC there is some Android activity swapping back and forth because a second app takes the foreground maybe? But it works, I thought.

 

[Teddis]

Yes adding this APP, stops the Joker button from switchinbg the source on the 12.3.....joker has ALWAYS performed selected function as selected in the MFD. another mod enables track skip. I did not do this one, i just rech over

 

[Teddis]

@signde , Did you land on a unit option ?

 

[signde]

I settled on FYT if I decide to pull the trigger but I'm having a hard time justifying given my total cost with the pure digital MOST box will be well over 1k.

I thought the price on all these had come down to the 600-700 mark, not realizing those units are not the same.

The spreadsheet I posted earlier is up to date if anyone else goes down this road right now.

On a side note, a side effect of messaging all these sellers is that they will not leave me alone. I wake daily to messages from the sellers who seem irritated I have not bought from them. I tell them I will be purchasing from another vendor and yet they aggressively argue with me and keep replying even when I ask them to stop. Many ask me why I am not buying so I told them. One Topwell seller told me "FYT is bad", another said "FYT is so expensive". The cultural mindset is very strange.

 

[alwin006]

I settled on FYT if I decide to pull the trigger but I'm having a hard time justifying given my total cost with the pure digital MOST box will be well over 1k.

I thought the price on all these had come down to the 600-700 mark, not realizing those units are not the same.

The spreadsheet I posted earlier is up to date if anyone else goes down this road right now.

On a side note, a side effect of messaging all these sellers is that they will not leave me alone. I wake daily to messages from the sellers who seem irritated I have not bought from them. I tell them I will be purchasing from another vendor and yet they aggressively argue with me and keep replying even when I ask them to stop. Many ask me why I am not buying so I told them. One Topwell seller told me "FYT is bad", another said "FYT is so expensive". The cultural mindset is very strange.

Thanks for your research by the way, it will be very userful when I finally pull the trigger.

 

[Mwhite732]

So I finally got around installing my unit. Overall, the biggest challenge was cable management. It took me a whole hour to work out how to tuck all that mess in behind the unit.

After that was done, everything seemed to work mostly fine.

The MOST-TOSLINK box also works wonderfully. The sound quality is just as good as my previous unit, which had a TOSLINK port directly integrated in the back of the unit.

I also installed a USB DAB+ dongle, plugging directly to the DAB+ wiring of the car. And reused the OEM GPS antenna with a fakra adapter.

I haven't had the chance to test everything out, but so far, the only problems I've had are the reverse camera (no feed, probs a software configuration issue), and the diamond button switching sources in the unit (I have it mapped to some other car-related function).

So far, though, I am very happy!

PS: Just for info, I purchased two original 95B.2 side vents, in order to match the style of the new center vents. Unfortunately, I can confirm these are NOT a direct swap, and won't fit the Dainav trim. Perhaps with some modifications, these could be made to fit... but that's not something that I am ready to undertake. I might, however, look into fitting the silver metal trim from the new vents in the original vents. That should bring the style closer to being a match.

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What magsafe charger is that?

 

[Abrams93]

Hello,

I am really hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Recently bought a 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo and immediately upgraded it with a INAV 12.3 inch screen from 4x4.

I spend the weekend installing it. It went pretty well, got about 85% of everything working. Really happy with it so far. A few issues I have not been able to resolve yet

360 camera is black. I see the guide markers and the radar works. No camera image. It was all working fine with the oem. I am assuming it has to be reading it to give me the radar signals but the input must be incorrect. Any ideas how to change this?

Steering wheel controls are all messed up. The right side of the steering wheel is now controlling audio which also makes the right gauge on the cluster start changing. I tried using the SWC to make changes and can't figure out how to do it.

USB doesn't seem to be working. From the videos Santirx posted it looks like the yellow pin is the USB. I have multiple colors (see attached photo) and no clue which one is the USB.

I bought an adapter to use the OEM gps. Is there an app people are using for aftermarket radios that utilize the gps? The default one on mine is google maps, which I would just use with android auto and have offline maps downloaded around my area anyways. Just trying to figure out how to actually utilize the onboard gps.

Otherwise everything seems to work with no loss of audio quality. Please see my pictures and let me know if you see anything obviously wrong. I have reached out to tech support as well so hoping they have some answers as well.

 

[Teddis]

Your unit is different it seems…….just a long shot on the rear view. You don’t have the parking brake on do you ?