It is painfully clear that these vendors including DAINAV, provide NO support. If you are brave enough........have a look at this thread. I know nothing of Android programming.....but you will see some limited success in this thread. For any more experienced programmers please engage !

Android Newb Identifying board type and looking to B/U (DAINAV unit)

Hello All, I am so relieved to have found this sub-forum , soooooo much expertise here, wow, congrats to all. I recently added a 12.3 inch Android in my Macan from a vendor called DAINAV in China. I had no idea they would not provide any...

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Great start with that thread on XDA. Interesting solution to the bluetooth pairing problem, which I think came up on a Rennlist thread too (different unit). After poking around XDA a little bit, I am hopeful we can solve at least some of the quirks.

First one I'm trying to solve - the native head unit phone app and Carplay seem to be fighting over which one gets to manage a phone call. Maybe related - I get a warning when Carlink connects to my phone about not using bluetooth with Carplay, but Carplay disconnects without the bluetooth connection. I haven't upgraded any of the software yet, so that will be the first step.

 

@drawz , that is interesting………I have not experienced this BT issue. This Dainav reliably connects to the APP that the builder loaded….and its BT profile. CP somewhere has been told to use this BT connection only.
All other devices I now pair on the BT0 , native Android connection.

 

I was able to disable the steering wheel diamond button function on this unit using the FytHWOneKey APK app that was referenced by @drawz here before.

Now, when I press the diamond button, instead of changing sources which was very annoying, it does nothing to the unit, which is great. The only thing that I noticed is that when I press the diamond button when in CarPlay, the screen quickly flashes, but it doesn’t do that anywhere else. A very very minor non-issue for me.

Now I can control other functions in my car with the diamond button without having to worry about source being changed.

Through a lot of reading I found that when using CanBus in these FYT units and they are wired a certain way, the steering functions are hardcoded and hence why the SWC app to change steering wheel functions is locked and can’t be used. Some manufacturers recommend that a specific wire is cut from canbus harness and reconnected somewhere else, which bypasses canbus and returns ability to configure steering wheel functions via SWC app. But our vendor’s support is lacking, hence we don’t know which wire and which connection point we would have to modify.

This APK app is a good workaround. It intercepts the specific signal, which should cause a standard action, and causes it to perform the action you prescribe. Since the diamond button changes sources in a “carrousel” mode, this app has the option to modify that carrousel mode… hence how one is able to fool the unit and work around it.

You can download the APK and install it. All you have to do is delete all actions in configuration lines. Or, you might want to wait a little because a video on how to do this is coming soon, which will detail instructions.

 

Fantastic leg work @Santirx !!! This fixes one of the only "bugs" left !

 

Have been reading and playing with th FTTHWOneKey app and there could be a way to customize the diamond button action, even to skip tracks. By selecting system call as the call method, then you can input a single line script.

For example writing “input keyevent 87” in all the carrousel function fields, it should theoretically advance media to next track. Still not working though… but still testing…

I think I’m up to something here but not quite there yet..

 

As I’m reading more, other folks are having issues with these type of call action… the original developer said that is an issue with newer android version and compatibility with the app. And the original developer is not maintaining the app anymore because he doesn’t need it. So, unless someone takes over and modifies it… we are stuck… but just having the ability to kill the button is enough for now…

 

This is great! I wonder if the skip track doesn't work because it's an Android command that isn't passed along to CarPlay? You could test this using a native Android media app. Actually, now that I think about it, do the hardware (touch) skip buttons work in CarPlay? I can't remember if I tried it. If those do work, then we just need to figure out exactly which command they're sending to the system and use that. Skip track is probably my preferred setting if we figure it out. I'll try to play with it over the next few days.

There's a user on Rennlist, MattDevoCustoms, that I mentioned previously also. He has built some custom firmware for the FYT units that some 997 users have installed. He previously told me via PM that his custom firmware should work on other FYT units like ours. I also believe he said that he had to use both of these apps to get all the steering wheel and hardware buttons on the unit working the way he wanted. He might be a helpful resource.

Oh and with regard to cutting the CANBUS wires - it seems like we'd give up too much functionality without CANBUS. No steering wheel volume, reverse camera trigger, parking sensor display, etc., all of which (I think) come over CANBUS in our cars.

 

Found out there is someone that took the project over and made some modifications to go a different route through ADB shell. Still not working. But I think it has to do with the ADB activation and local host IP and Port configuration settings in the unit.

I tested the control on CarPlay and native media player, and it didn’t work.

Yes, the panel control buttons work on CarPlay. They must be sending the adb shell “input keyevent 87” command, which is what I’m trying to setup for the source change command.

 

Yikes! Sounds tricky, but glad you're on it. Do you have a link to the newer project?
Unrelated - does anyone know how to get the parking sensor display to show up when moving forward? I feel like the sensors came on constantly when I first installed this thing, but in the process of getting the reverse camera working, I lost the forward activation of the sensors.

 

Unrelated - does anyone know how to get the parking sensor display to show up when moving forward? I feel like the sensors came on constantly when I first installed this thing, but in the process of getting the reverse camera working, I lost the forward activation of the sensors.

Never had that. Would be great to have it.

 

The problem, I found, is that I'm able to enable USB Debugging in the Developer's menu, but I think ADB TCPIP is not enabled and that is causing the connection to be faulty. I'm not sure how to enable ADB TCPIP. If anyone knows how to do this, and let me know... I will appreciate it.

 

Well… I’ve just done it!!!

I can now skip tracks with my steering wheel diamond button!!!! YEEEAAAAHHH!

 

My thoughts exactly! YEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!! You're amazing!
I was also noticing there is support for long press of a button issuing a different command. Imagine short press to skip tracks and long press to activate Siri. Actually...this exact thing is mentioned in the readme so it should be completely doable! (it needs yet another app of course...sigh)

With regard to the front radar without reverse - PCM 3.1 did that by default and this thing did with the 360 camera app by default when I first installed (with no camera image at all). I can't even figure out how to get back to that app, probably because one of the many 360 settings is not enabled.

 

For me surround works differently in canbus High or low.

 

High will automatically trigger the screen to change when moving forward close to an object, but the radar distance is no longer displayed. And it also appears like a different version of the 360 app I had before complete with a blank front video image. Still need to update various bits of software, including CANBUS, so hopefully one of those will do the trick.

 

Instructions on how to modify behavior of the Diamond Button on the 12.3" DaiNav Android Unit...

 

Hi,

I just want to say thank you all who contributed to this. I am very grateful.

Arriving a bit late to the game as I just got my macan a few weeks ago. The DaiNav unit seems to have been sold out but I found another unit below which also has an option with a fiber optic box. I have two questions I was hoping to get help with. First, should I order the unit with the fiber optic box or should I order the one shared in earlier posts separately? Second, there are a few size options lowest end being 4gb RAM/ 32gb ROM up to 8gb RAM/ 256gb ROM with a few options in the middle is there any size someone could recommend? Thank very much again to all.

Apologies since this is a first post I will post the link separately.

 

https://a.aliexpress.com/_msDCyzI

 

@Djlemaire, for me, memory and drive space doesn’t really matter, unless you are planning on installing a lot of apps, media, etc.. in the unit. Otherwise, if you are planning on using CarPlay or AA, it doesn’t matter. I would go with the smaller size.

Just make sure the seller sends you a photo of the actual unit they will be sending you, so that you can verify that it doesn’t have the red dot on the panel, and that it has all required components.

If they give you the option of buying the fiber optic converter separately, make sure it is SPDIF toslink to MOST25. If not, don’t buy it with the vendor, and buy the Amazon one I recommended here earlier.

 

Hi @Santirx thank you responding to my questions so quickly. I admire your hard work and dedication to the community. I have checked with that supplier and it does have the red dot checking with another in hopes to get one without but I will follow your advice by asking for pictures.

One more question if I have the factory audio system (I.e. not Bose) will I still need the fiber optic converter?

Thanks a million

 

Only Bose and Burmester require the fiber optic converter. If you have the base system, check with the vendor to ensure the system can actually support it.

 

Hello, has anyone tried the Car Penguin app launcher on this unit ? UI is heavily inspired by Porsche OEM look and that's what I'm looking for.

If so, how does it compare with the default Dainav's launcher ?

Thanks

 

I have. Is very hard to customize and navigate. I have provided feedback to make it better, but not sure if they have done anything with it.

The native FYT DaiNav launcher is pretty nice… I don’t think is close to OEM, but close enough.

 

Unless you're using native Android functionality instead of AA/CP, the launcher hardly seems to matter. Maybe good for secondary drivers to have something intuitive and native.

 

Yeah of course, I just wanted something that looks as factory as possible when I have to use the cameras or play with settings

 

Has anyone got Penguin working??

 

Is wireless Android Auto with this unit possible?
I ask because some similar 12.3" units are promoted as "wireless CarPlay / wired Android Auto"

 

Yes wireless for both apple/android.

 

Finding one of these on aliexpress that I feel like I can trust has been a challenge. The one linked previously from the "Sadocom" store has an option for the MOST converter but is said to include the red dot which is a pass for me. Sorting by units sold, this one from the "JEHUNG Factory Store" comes up first:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806217051691.html

Does anyone see any red flags here? Do we think this is an FYT unit or perhaps some other? The listing says it is Android 13 rather than 12.

I suppose I will have to buy my own MOST box unless anyone can make out one in this low quality picture. It appears perhaps that it has a toslink out in the lower left, which is what I need for a MOST output, correct?

I will message the seller to confirm it does not include the red dot and to provide more pictures of the front and back of the unit for the PCM 3.1 variant (model A). Any other questions I should ask?

 

This is a different unit. I don’t think is FYT but can’t say for sure. The settings menu looks different so I have to assume is different. There is one of my channel viewers that got this unit and we had been connected.

It is easier to install because of how the A/C ducts are designed. It has a different launcher. It seems you can actually program steering wheel controls, like the joker button (which can’t be done with the FYT unit natively unless you use a middleware like FytHWOnekey). My viewer said he was able to program joker button to skip songs in CarPlay natively in the settings. He also said that he needed to connect an external mic (provided).

Overall, it seems to work well. It seems to have a few advantages and disadvantages when compared to our FYT unit.

 

edit: server bombed with an error, double post.

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006020777053.html?pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CNY%21%21US%20%24771.25%21%21%21%21%21%40212a6a4e17206166390393686e4a14%21%21im%21%21

looked similar as well....

 

Thanks everyone so far.


This one does seem closer to the ones everyone here seems to have - the claimed CPU at least supposedly matches the screenshot from djbooya above.

From one of the pictures, it looks like this one might actually include a MOST adapter as well (that blue box)? Or maybe that's just an analog box as I see RCAs dangling from it.

No pictures of the back of the unit, though.

Can everyone refresh my memory - if I want the best audio quality, I want one of these with an optical toslink out, which will then feed into a MOST adapter, correct? Given that most of these are sub $700 now I'm okay with sourcing my own MOST adapter.

 

I reached out to this seller "Roadzhiyin Manufacturer Store" and asked for pictures. No red dot and it looks like it has a toslink port on the back. Unfortunately I didn't catch this originally but all the items from this seller state "This item is not available, because the seller doesn't provide delivery to the shipping address you selected." I tried a few addresses in the US, looks like they don't ship to the states.

I've since noticed the "Sadocom Official Store" has two listings for the same price however one listing has the red dot pictured and the other does not. They both have an option with the fiber optic box shipped to me for $750 which seems pretty decent considering how these were priced when this thread first started.

There is also this option from the "SKYSHADOW Official Store" which would be ~$700 shipped but probably without a fiber box. What I find interesting here is they have a note that says "you can tear off the red logo paper if you don`t like it" regarding the red dot. It also says android 14 but looks to maybe have the vents that close so not the same as the one from the "JEHUNG Factory Store".

I've reached out to all for pictures but the commonality is that these listings are all so terrible. Half the pictures for every unit are obviously different products and often the pictures of some features are for things that are not even the head unit.

 

The unit from skyshadow looks like the next generation of the first unit I installed in my Macan. The trims are going to be slightly off with this one, as you’ll see in my comparison/review video. But overall it was a good unit. Just doesn’t look as OEM.

Skyshadow has two options now.

This one does look like your original unit with a row of buttons, but supposedly now with Android 14.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804340380660.html

This one looks like your newest unit though, right? Again advertised with Android 14. They have told me over messages that the red label is a sticker than can be removed.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806271322141.html

That second one doesn't have the option for a most fiber box but they have that available separately for $88.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806828274767.html

This is looking like my strongest option yet. They also sent me $20 off, so all in about $810 with shipping and the MOST box.

 

Skyshadow has two options now.

This one does look like your original unit with a row of buttons, but supposedly now with Android 14.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804340380660.html

This one looks like your newest unit though, right? Again advertised with Android 14. They have told me over messages that the red label is a sticker than can be removed.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806271322141.html

That second one doesn't have the option for a most fiber box but they have that available separately for $88.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806828274767.html

This is looking like my strongest option yet. They also sent me $20 off, so all in about $810 with shipping and the MOST box.

The second unit still looks like the first unit I had, but with closing vents and no buttons. That’s the only difference. Probably a Topway unit.

It looks like a more modern iteration of my first unit, but in no way shape or form similar to my second unit.