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I'm not a mechanic and i'm not really familiar with this so I figured i'd ask here, im just curious:

-What fluids are drained and refilled when a transmission is replaced?
-Does this include the transfer case fluid?
-Is the Transfer Case apart from the transmission?
  • or is it attached permanently with the transmission thus im getting a new Transfer Case with the new Transmission?
  • Where is the transfer case in these pics?

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Estou tendo problemas com o meu pdk, depois que o carro aquece as engrenagens 1-3-5 não funciona, apenas funciona as engrenagens 2-4-6 alguém já teve algum pronlema semelhante?

desculpe por erros inglês não é minha língua nativa
Não sou especialista, mas se são apenas essas marchas, diria que é um problema com uma das embreagens, talvez um problema com a embreagem. Uma embreagem controla ímpar, outra par e ré.
 
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Estou tendo problemas com o meu pdk, depois que o carro aquece as engrenagens 1-3-5 não funciona, apenas funciona as engrenagens 2-4-6 alguém já teve algum pronlema semelhante?.....
Es posible que tenga un problema con la unidad Mechatronic de transmisión, que controla los cambios de marcha. Adjunto una foto de arriba, el 20 de febrero. Varios miembros del foro han reemplazado la unidad Mechatronic bajo garantía.
 
I took delivery of my brand new Macan GTS on 1/9/2017. On 18/10/2017 with 1300 miles on the clock, it all went wrong. Travelling at approx 50mph with a friend on board, the dashboard lit up with warnings and flashed “Possible R gear fault driving permitted” then “Engine control fault consult dealer driving permitted” except driving was impossible. The car coasted to a halt having gone into neutral and would not engage gear. Restarting had the car moving forward at about 10mph with the revs shooting up and down and making some pretty alarming noises. I limped home (1.5 miles) at crawling speed with hazard flashers on. On arrival at home there is a slight incline. Having stopped to open the gate, the car refused to move out of neutral and had to be pushed home the last 20 yards (next door neighbor plus two passing motorists). I contacted Porsche the next morning and the car was recovered to Porsche mid-sussex on a flat bed recovery vehicle (efficiently).
I now have a BMW 3 series diesel loan which as you can imagine is not great.
Speaking to the dealer, they say that one of the oil seals on the PDK was not fitted correctly at the factory but that there was still some oil left in the gearbox. Given the mechanical sounds emanating from the gearbox, I am not sure it is still fit for purpose but have been told that a new oil seal is being sent from Europe and it will then be fitted, oil refilled and tested.
This is my first Porsche and has been a pretty disappointing experience thus far. Has any other owner experienced this situation and if so, what was the outcome/what should I expect from Porsche given I now don’t trust the gearbox completely?
Thanks, Chris
I own a Macan that GTS model 2017, at 3500 km the PDK gearbox was damaged which was changed by warranty and at 25,000 km it failed again, it is my first Porsche and I am very disappointed, I lost all reliability in my vehicle
 
So having taken on board all the sensible suggestions and put it as forcefully as possible in correspondence, this was the response:
"In regards to the PDK box itself, the control unit picks up on anything that is outside of its parameters, and, for safety will shut down any systems that it believes could be faulting to save causing damage. In this case, your Macan would not drive because the control unit had been made aware of the fact that there was an issue with the PDK gearbox. The gearbox has since been tested since the seal replacement and top-up of PDK oil to ensure that there are no further faults. Because of this, Porsche will guarantee the gearbox only within the warranty period. However, you can extend the warranty on the vehicle for up to 15 years."
In short, nothing doing (in the UK).
I took delivery of my brand new Macan GTS on 1/9/2017. On 18/10/2017 with 1300 miles on the clock, it all went wrong. Travelling at approx 50mph with a friend on board, the dashboard lit up with warnings and flashed “Possible R gear fault driving permitted” then “Engine control fault consult dealer driving permitted” except driving was impossible. The car coasted to a halt having gone into neutral and would not engage gear. Restarting had the car moving forward at about 10mph with the revs shooting up and down and making some pretty alarming noises. I limped home (1.5 miles) at crawling speed with hazard flashers on. On arrival at home there is a slight incline. Having stopped to open the gate, the car refused to move out of neutral and had to be pushed home the last 20 yards (next door neighbor plus two passing motorists). I contacted Porsche the next morning and the car was recovered to Porsche mid-sussex on a flat bed recovery vehicle (efficiently).
I now have a BMW 3 series diesel loan which as you can imagine is not great.
Speaking to the dealer, they say that one of the oil seals on the PDK was not fitted correctly at the factory but that there was still some oil left in the gearbox. Given the mechanical sounds emanating from the gearbox, I am not sure it is still fit for purpose but have been told that a new oil seal is being sent from Europe and it will then be fitted, oil refilled and tested.
This is my first Porsche and has been a pretty disappointing experience thus far. Has any other owner experienced this situation and if so, what was the outcome/what should I expect from Porsche given I now don’t trust the gearbox completely?
Thanks, Chris
I own a Macan that GTS model 2017, at 3500 km the PDK gearbox was damaged which was changed by warranty and at 25,000 km it failed again, it is my first Porsche and I am very disappointed, I lost all reliability in my vehicle
 
So today, I decided to pop on down to get some groceries. I’ve got 32000 miles on the car. I started my Macan and got a really rough idle, then suddenly I got the dreaded error that the OP posted about. I pulled over and turned it off and restarted the car. Now I’ve got a triple fault, ECU, Check Engine and the Gearbox issue. The car wouldn’t even move forward or reverse. After sitting about 500 yards from my house for a good 10 minutes off, I got the car to limp home. Unfortunately since it’s a Sunday I’m going to have to wait till tomorrow to either get the car towed or limp to the dealer that’s about 10-15 minutes away.

Scary because the warranty expires later this year.
 
Car is at the dealer now, will update the thread with info as I get it. I could only get gears 2 and 4, aka limp home mode. Did manage to snag a Cayman as a loaner (though the person in front of me walked away with a Macan Turbo loaner!)
 
So I was told by the service department, that the valve body would be replaced. After being replaced, they told me the car was ready for me. Apparently as the SA was getting ready to bring me back my car, the same fault popped up. The car is back at the dealer pending further investigation. The bright side, according to the SA is whatever comes of this issue, I wont need to do the expensive PDK service at the end of the year! I’ll take that savings!
 
Car has been returned, LOTS of parts replaced, all related to the valve body. Turns out the service tech forgot to replace one item and the car threw up the fault again. Took the car for a drive on Sunday and all seems back to normal. One note is the PDK seems to hold 6th gear instead of going straight to 7th (in normal mode). I think someone had mentioned that when they got their mechatronic replaced, they PDK has to relearn your driving style. I can confirm that!


 
I own a 2015 Porsche Macan S. The car has always been maintained by my local Porsche dealer, has never been in an accident, and is in pristine condition. A month ago the engine light came on. Turns out there is a faulty transmission and the cost to repair it nearly exceeds the value of the car. My dealership has reached out to Porsche corporate, as have I, and it doesn't appear as if they will offer me any assistance due to the age of the vehicle. I was told that sometimes this "just happens." So basically they're telling me the shelf life of my Porsche is 5 years. This is my second Porsche and I thought I would always drive a Porsche. However, I would be a fool to purchase another one if they don't make this right. Does anyone know how I would sell this car? So disappointed right now. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
Unfortunately, such is the risk of owning a Porsche without an extended warranty. There are some very expensive parts.

This does not help you, but fortunately the need for total transmission replacements on the Macan is very rare.

How many miles are on your car? Assume you had the transmission maintenance done pursuant to the factory maintenance schedule?

I would find an independent garage that specializes in dual clutch transmissions. Should be little trouble finding this in most major metropolitan areas. You should find the cost to have the work done there versus a Porsche dealer to be substantially less. Seems like Porsche dealers are either not interested or not equipped to rebuild these transmissions.
 
Unfortunately, such is the risk of owning a Porsche without an extended warranty. There are some very expensive parts.
Yep, a few people will get stung. What is the dealer quoting you for the repair?

How many miles are on your car? If it’s 80,000 to 90,000 or more, I could see why they may decline to assist you. That’s well out of warranty, and at that mileage it’s not uncommon to see a small % of cars with transmission problems. If t’s 50,000 miles or less, I would certainly push your dealer hard to help you.

But if that fails, an independent transmission specialist is a great idea. I think you will be shocked at how much less the cost will be.
 
I am being quoted $21,000+. A 5-year-old Porsche should not become a paperweight in such a relatively short period of time. Another Porsche owner told me she also had transmission issues with the same year vehicle and that this is a known problem on 2015s. Porsche covered her costs as goodwill but so far they haven't offered to assist me. I loved this car and brand & I'll be extremely disappointed if Porsche does not make this right. I now need to plan ahead and try to figure out what to do with the car very quickly.
 
How many miles are on your Macan? Has the transmission maintenance schedule been followed?

Regarding the other Porsche owner that told you she had transmission issues with a 2015, was that also a Macan? And what specific transmission issues did she have? There have been a few forum members who have needed to have their Megatronic module replaced.

Pretty certain the number of people having needed to have their transmission entirely replaced has been limited to several.

The $21,000 is pure silliness. As someone else suggested, find a transmission specialist that rebuilds dual clutch transmissions.

And please make sure you come back and let us know how much you saved. I have to say every once in a while we get one of these stories from someone who has never contributed to the forum before, and then we never hear from them again.
 
I realize this does not help you, but 2015 Macans definitely don’t have a known issue with the transmission. Just take a look at the detailed frequency of repair surveys published by Consumer Reports and you’ll see that the 2015 Macan has the highest rating for transmission issues.

You definitely need to take your car to the transmission specialist as others have said. The $21,000 is a complete rip off. Wonder if they even diagnosed the problem correctly. Plenty of reports on this forum regarding poor dealer service and incorrect diagnosis by technicians.
 
How many miles are on your Macan? Has the transmission maintenance schedule been followed?

Regarding the other Porsche owner that told you she had transmission issues with a 2015, was that also a Macan? And what specific transmission issues did she have? There have been a few forum members who have needed to have their Megatronic module replaced.

Pretty certain the number of people having needed to have their transmission entirely replaced has been limited to several.

The $21,000 is pure silliness. As someone else suggested, find a transmission specialist that rebuilds dual clutch transmissions.

And please make sure you come back and let us know how much you saved. I have to say every once in a while we get one of these stories from someone who has never contributed to the forum before, and then we never hear from them again.
Saw this story posted on a Facebook group, I think she has like 90,000 miles on the odo. Extended warranties do pay for themselves sometimes... IF you have one...
 
It really sucks that this happened to your Macan. However, as others mentioned above it is a gamble to not have extended warranty on expensive cars. One thing that really stinks is that after 5 years the car is worth almost nothing and any repair becomes a big % of what the car is worth. Not related to transmission but my wife has a 2015 Mercedes GL450. We bought it CPO with 20k miles for $56k. MSRP on the car was $92k. After owning it for 4 years I wanted to trade it and was offered $23k. Well, two weeks ago I had a little accident that needed a new rear bumper. I ended up using my insurance but the cost of repair was $5,800. That is 26% of what the value of the car. For a bumper!!!! Seriously, how would you feel about spending 1/4 of the value of your car to fix its bumper?

Thus, $21k to fix the transmission of a car that is probably worth the same I would probably try to sell it for parts.
 
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