Ummm are your fingers short?


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No.

But shifting during a 90 degree turn with crossed arms makes reaching the paddles awkward.

 

I was also surprised to see that the GT3RS has the same shifters as in any other P-car. Would have expected something a bit more track oriented made of carbon.

The race cars use sequential transmissions, not flappy paddles. The GT3RS is the homogulation vehicle but the real deal is not flappy paddles.

 

Any updates here? Yes, my fingers are short. Don't need/want to spend $400 for carbon fiber, but would like better reachability to the paddles.

 

It's like an inch or two...

Have you looked into taping a banjo pick to your index fingers?

 

The MAcarbon ones are slick but the Agency Power are nice if you want to slip on or off. Ideally, for just length extension a composite plastic material would help on cost but not look as premium.

https://flat6motorsports.com/collec...oducts/agency-power-carbon-fiber-add-on-pdk-paddle-shifters?variant=28015249409

 

The video and the photos do not really match. The video shows slip-on, but the photos show being attached (taped) to the rear of the OEM paddles. Also, there's a comment on the Agency Power website about these only fitting the long paddles, not the short. My 2017 GTS seems to have fairly short paddles. . .can you clarify when convenient?

 

Well, I have long fingers and find the stock paddles short and hard to select when turning. Better to use the shifter in those cases.

 

Just FYI - Agency Power only offers the taped versions now. They have not confirmed fitment on the 17 model year.

I'm talking with a few people about some other options that aren't yet in the market, more to come...

 

All - just an update, there will be a cheaper alternative to the carbon fiber options coming in Q1'17.

ETA, pricing, and a MacanForum exclusive group-buy introductory offer coming soon. Material will likely be billet aluminum or a composite.

Given the economics, would you guys prefer a black extender or a gunmetal/something closer resembling the OEM paddle?

 

I don't feel too strongly, but if the existing color can be matched very closely they might look more "integrated". However, if the color is too far off, black would be my preference. A brushed finish would probably be best as well, both for appearance and feel.

 

I like the Porsche tax on these...hilarious
I'll just have IND paint match an aluminum set for 1/2 the price

 

I like the Porsche tax on these...hilarious

No kidding. So stupid

 

All - my apologies, the Agency Power PDK Paddle Extenders do not fit the Macan. I confirmed today. There will be Macan specific options in a few months.

 

How about coming up with a version of something like this for the Macan? These are designed for all the BMW M models:


Pinalloy Silver Alloy Steering Wheel Paddle Shifter Extension BMW M3 M4 M5 M6 | eBay


Avoids double sided tape and mismatched carbon fiber.


Only ~$40 a pair even with BMW tax (but no carbon fiber tax).

 

Some are being developed as we speak. I'll have more news soon, the intent would be to color match aluminum and offer carbon fiber as well. Those ebay versions are very cheaply cut in China. I held them at SEMA. They'll do the job but I'm not sure how many people would want them in their hands attached in a Porsche. Like a lot of accessory products, they get the design and about 10-15 vendors over there all copy and produce. It's good for cost but the quality seems to be sub-par often.

There are some quality parts made in China, I'm just speaking to a lot of the accessory market from my experience. I have a hard time finding vendors there that I feel comfortable stocking their products.

I should also mention the reality for product companies. Why you see the "Porsche tax" is really based on the market. They can sell 10-20x more BMW parts, 50x more Subaru parts compared to Porsche. So the vendors that do take the risk to enter the market typically make their money back through a higher per unit margin. With other platforms you can make less per unit because you're moving a lot of volume. I've worked with a lot of product companies, while some do well, there's a lot working hard to just get by and they are enthusiasts who want to make things. Occasionally you'll get a guy in his garage making one off parts who does it for a hobby and will not pay himself for his time, but these companies have bills to pay (labor, machines, facilities, etc.). I had a Lotus Evora for a little while and such a lack of support in that market that anything was expensive because so few companies would even touch the market.

My goal is to offer as many options as possible to customers. Some want cost effective where some want the best quality. There's no wrong or right, it's a matter of preference, I'm happy to help however I can.

 

Thanks for response. I understand and I was somewhat baiting you with the cheap EBay stuff (though sometimes the quality can be great) to get a better understanding of your plans. But paying extra for "carbon fiber" attached with tape when it looks mismatched to the rest of the design elements would not get my vote.

 

Thanks for response. I understand and I was somewhat baiting you with the cheap EBay stuff (though sometimes the quality can be great) to get a better understanding of your plans. But paying extra for "carbon fiber" attached with tape when it looks mismatched to the rest of the design elements would not get my vote.

I just wanted to provide some context. I have a vendor who has already developed some carbon fiber paddles that should be available in Jan (confirmed fitment on the Macan). I also have an industry engineer taking a look at it to see if an aluminum match is feasible with cost and the potential demand of the product. I'm not in the business of developing products with Flat 6 but where there is a need, I'm happy to tug on some industry resources to see if it's feasible to bring to market. My goal is to provide options and lend my experience and expertise, there are a lot of fine product companies out there but I understand some products are more commodity in nature. I'm focused on helping clients with their needs, I learned long ago that there's different strokes for different folks. It would be foolish of me to assume I know better. I'm also trying to capture where the thoughts of this community are because it will help in making a decision on bringing additional options that I would foot the risk bill on. I'm not here to judge or argue I just want to lend my help where I can.

 

I wish I had longer fingers.

 

That's why I use the shifter for those tight turn on the 1-2, then go back to paddles.

 

I like the stock paddles very much, especially compared to most if not any other OEM cars out there. Also I've never found them short. The Ferrari CF paddles however are sublime.

If aftermarket "extenders" are made to cover up the entire aluminum, thus making it so the CF wouldn't be visibly "covering" already nice and high quality aluminum, then I'd say to bring the CF units on.

 

Any updates? Did these ever make it into production?

 

Sorry, I had started a different thread for updates. I originally intended to have them produced but a partner vendor called Raceseng took interest. I am confident with how their other products look and work, they will be superior. Unfortunately, they are working through some other product development, so I don't anticipate they will be ready until later this year.

Alternatively, Agency Power has released a carbon fiber extender now with fitment for the Macan:
https://flat6motorsports.com/collec...an-interior/products/agency-power-carbon-fiber-add-on-pdk-paddle-shifters-gen-2

 

I'm always open to cool upgrades for my Macan. Surfing this Forum I stumbled on a "Paddle Shifter Extensions" thread and thought "well, that could be nice", but it appears as though the only current option available is in carbon fiber at $300 a set! Flat 6 is developing an aluminum version but not yet and no recent posts on the subject. So I searched some more, and just ordered a set of paddle shifter extensions from China on Ali Express which basically is the foreign version of EBay for $41.00. Worth a try, right? They are offered in aluminum, black or red. Received an email that they have shipped, I'll post again once received with my review.

https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...11/1007004_32806604123.html?spm=2114.12010408.1000016.2.1mQlNZ&isOrigTitle=true

 

Just FYI - we transferred the design to Raceseng. They had some new products to get out first but estimate having these ready later this year. They do amazing work so likely will redo the design a little and the craftsmanship will be top notch. They told me they would honor the group buy pricing for guys on here but I imagine they will go up market a little.

 

cool thanks

 

I wouldn't want to stick something like this on my Porsche steering wheel. No ergonomics whatsoever where it's most important - the back side of the paddles (it's flat) where you flip.
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1BtRd...FXXXL.jpg?size=24870&height=589&width=785&hash=834569d6b644073d8008d9ea9340996d

 

Agreed, these are ridiculous. Where are you placing your hands while driving that you can't reach the paddles? Porsche is pretty smart, if the paddles needed to be bigger, they would be...

 

Not sure where you got those, nothing to do with the original posted item

 

Sorry, the seller you bought from didn't post pictures of the back side. These paddles are sold by everyone everywhere.

 

The ones I bought are not solid, see picture in first post. Anyways, inexpensive item thought I'd check it out, easily removed

 

I'm curious what is driving the need for these? There's obviously a need, or people wouldn't be selling them...but I just don't see it.
I think the factory paddle shifters look great, feel great and function perfectly.

Hopefully the ones you bought work out well for you.

 

I do see now they are the same ones, thanks

 

I'll have more information hopefully tomorrow, waiting on pricing but 2 new releases in this category...

 

FYI - A couple new options coming soon. I don't have an ETA or pricing yet but should soon.

Agency Power Aluminum ($200)

AutoTecknic Dry Carbon ($350)

We have the Agency Power Carbon Paddles in-stock ($300)

 

Does the weight of adding the aluminum paddles do anything to the feel of the original shifter?

 

I haven't felt or know the weight on theirs but I'm sure it adds just a touch of positive engagement. The "achilles heel" in improving the feel of the shifters is the electronic switch mechanism Porsche uses. It in all intensive purposes is a "short-shifter." So not a lot of travel and there is no mechanical resistance. So long story short, it won't improve the feel like a weighted shift knob would but the solidness and expanded paddle area will provide a more engaging/race car feel.

The size of the paddles personally don't bother me but having a bigger paddle is nicer when hustling on a back road, one less thing to focus on (where's the paddle in relation to my hand) which allows you to focus more on the drive. I keep my hands planted at 9 and 3, but occasionally in a tighter turn, I have to adjust my hand position.

In my Panamera, I have those dumb buttons Porsche played with for a few years. Sure they work and you get use to them but a nice size paddle would be 10x better.

 

Hey guys, I recently upgraded my paddle shifters on my macan to the Savanini paddles. I had problems shifting without hitting the stalks and gave up using them for awhile. Stock shifters are so puny it’s not even funny.

I have attached a few photos of it installed and it’s packaging. I ordered them on AliExpress and it took about 2 weeks to get them. Packaging was great and shifters were separated with plastic sleeves. The thing I like about them is that they are held in place by set screws instead of tape, but they do give you the option to use tape if you want them. I ordered the gray color and it looks great imo. For $55 it’s well worth it for such good quality shifters.

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/2222/rzTxrf.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4650/qzUl7w.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/930/eZxf6r.jpg

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If you’re interested you can order them at the following link.
http://s.aliexpress.com/YFNRV3EV