[TXRed]

I have had the car for nine months now, seven with the Cobb A.P. installed. Everything works great and the Cobb is seamless. I put it in Sport mode most of the time.

I’ve had the Cobb installed on MAP 91 for almost 2 weeks... I have generally used Comfort Mode for all my driving (since I came from a heavy SUV, anything and everything feels “fast” compared to what I have driven for the past 10 years).... but have noticed that Cobb in CM is almost too “on/off” as we say in the 2-wheel world, and the gear changing is so low, the car just doesn’t really feel smooth and easy to use. Let’s face it, the speed is there on these cars (at least in the GTS), with or without the Cobb, if you just use the gears the way they are intended to be used. Having stated this, I was about to reflash to MAP93 this week and see how that feels. But honestly, after reading your comment, I wonder if driving in Sport will help put the gear changing into a better, more usable & smooth pattern for my daily driving. I may try that for a week or 2.

(Truth be told, I still think I’m re-flashing to 93 anyhow... why the heck not?!)

 

[wwahl]

I’ve had the Cobb installed on MAP 91 for almost 2 weeks... I have generally used Comfort Mode for all my driving (since I came from a heavy SUV, anything and everything feels “fast” compared to what I have driven for the past 10 years).... but have noticed that Cobb in CM is almost too “on/off” as we say in the 2-wheel world, and the gear changing is so low, the car just doesn’t really feel smooth and easy to use. Let’s face it, the speed is there on these cars (at least in the GTS), with or without the Cobb, if you just use the gears the way they are intended to be used. Having stated this, I was about to reflash to MAP93 this week and see how that feels. But honestly, after reading your comment, I wonder if driving in Sport will help put the gear changing into a better, more usable & smooth pattern for my daily driving. I may try that for a week or 2.

(Truth be told, I still think I’m re-flashing to 93 anyhow... why the heck not?!)

Yes, Cobb and Sport mode go well together. Sport mode also goes best with the ACC. If you have the control speed set at a much larger number than what the guy in front of you is driving and that person moves over, hold on because with the Cobb you will take off like a shot.

 

[GoBlue!]

I run Cobb 93 in sport mode all the time on the Turbo. Works great. May try the 91 map to see how that does

 

[sqweak]

.... but have noticed that Cobb in CM is almost too “on/off” as we say in the 2-wheel world, and the gear changing is so low, the car just doesn’t really feel smooth and easy to use. Let’s face it, the speed is there on these cars (at least in the GTS), with or without the Cobb, if you just use the gears the way they are intended to be used. Having stated this, I was about to reflash to MAP93 this week and see how that feels.

Coincidentally, I’ve been running 93 for about 2 weeks and feel the EXACT same about the on/off and lack of smoothness in CM. I think your sport mode hunch is spot on, and is where I’m planning to drive it for a bit.

 

[Memango]

How did it go?

Getting started was a bit rougher than anticipated. None of the Accessport buttons worked. A call to help/support got things moving. They were very patient in walking me through about 15 minutes of installation time.


First impression was like many others in sensing a real increase in power. Low end torque is decent and turbo lag is almost eliminated. Smooth is the word I choose to describe the driving experience. Nothing sharp,edgy, or skittish about it. Yes there is a noticeable power increase but not HUGE. I later did an uninstall to compare the difference and could tell again that the increase is sensibly put together so as not to slam the mechanicals into furious output forces. It is very easy and civilized to drive in comfort mode. Performs great in Sport mode. I also went to Sport Plus, stomped the gas full force and in an exhilarating few seconds the speed limiter warning (set to 70 mph) was chirping. I was favorably impressed. After several months of use, well, the car just feels normal in a good way and I recommend the product to anyone interested in bumping up performance.


I also had the Sport Plus program retrofitted to the car recently. Pedal response is faster but not nervous or twitchy as some have reported. It is wonderful on country lanes with lots of curves and speed changes. I find the manual shifting program more useful in S+ than other modes. Holding around 3500 RPM cruising speed keeps it all lively and ready to ramp up quickly when called on.



Spirited driving with these two features does work the car harder yet in a reasonable, sensible manner not slamming it.

 

[rasetsu]

I’ve had the Cobb installed on MAP 91 for almost 2 weeks... I have generally used Comfort Mode for all my driving (since I came from a heavy SUV, anything and everything feels “fast” compared to what I have driven for the past 10 years).... but have noticed that Cobb in CM is almost too “on/off” as we say in the 2-wheel world, and the gear changing is so low, the car just doesn’t really feel smooth and easy to use. Let’s face it, the speed is there on these cars (at least in the GTS), with or without the Cobb, if you just use the gears the way they are intended to be used. Having stated this, I was about to reflash to MAP93 this week and see how that feels. But honestly, after reading your comment, I wonder if driving in Sport will help put the gear changing into a better, more usable & smooth pattern for my daily driving. I may try that for a week or 2.

(Truth be told, I still think I’m re-flashing to 93 anyhow... why the heck not?!)

If your profile info is correct and you live in DFW area, why would you not run the 93 map since we have 93 octane fuel widely available everywhere? I don't have a Cobb tune on my Macan yet but do on my STi and had APR tune on my GTI. Stick with QT, Shell, or Costco for fuel ups. Running a 91 map when you are using 93 octane fuel is telling the ECU to unnecessarily pull timing. We have the good fortune of having Growler Motorlabs nearby which is an official Cobb dealer. They can explain to you the ins and outs of the system.

 

[TXRed]

I ran 91 on purpose first to “feel” the TQ/HP increase over stock without going to full-bore 93. I also wanted to see how the engine mapping and ECU combined at the lower map. The stock GTS is plenty fast for me... I just felt like toying around with it. I will check out the 93 map as well, and see how it feels. I’m not too proud to admit that if I don’t end up liking either, I’ll reflash to stock and sell the AccessPort.

In all honesty, I didn’t buy the Macan to really drive the doors off it. I just wanted something more fun to drive every day than a regular SUV (but could still haul the kiddos around and some work stuff from time to time).... something with a little pep, and of course, style. I had been shopping CPOd F-Paces for the last year... and just couldn’t find one that I liked. Then I started looking at Macans out of the blue, and I really liked them. They just never crossed my mind before...





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[UPSER95B]

I have a '17 S with Cobb 91 tune (for the past 10 months). Definitely helps in the low end of the RPM range. Sport mode with Cobb gives a solid feel all through the power band. In comfort mode (with or without Cobb) I find a lag in low rpm, mostly because the pdk shifts to higher gears so quickly. If you're starting out with light acceleration at 25mph it's already shifted to 4th. If you then want to stomp in some acceleration there is a pronounced lag while the pdk shifts down a gear or two. In sport it holds the gears longer and brings on the torque much quicker with virtually no lag.

In a perfect world I would love it to default to sport mode but on startup I push the sport button by muscle memory now.

I agree, this needs to be fixed .

 

[Louisssss]

I agree, this needs to be fixed .

its not going to be. its been feedback given to cobb for 3+ years. they can't fix it and its not their fault. its the PDK tuning that shifts to save fuel. u can blame the EPA, or drive in sport mode which is an absolute dream with the macan s and a 93 tune + flat6 filters.

 

[UPSER95B]

its not going to be. its been feedback given to cobb for 3+ years. they can't fix it and its not their fault. its the PDK tuning that shifts to save fuel. u can blame the EPA, or drive in sport mode which is an absolute dream with the macan s and a 93 tune + flat6 filters.

I spoke with Cobb they insist it is due to not being able to code the Tc’s, I wish normal was was sport mode and sport mode was the tune....

 

[wjmpam]

All - Thinking of doing a Cobb tune on my Macan. Has anyone out there had good/bad experiences with Cobb and a Macan? Is it worth the money? I realize it is about a 10% increase in BHP, but torque increase by of 25%. Thoughts appreciated.

 

[Shark]

Use the search feature and you will find almost endless discussion on this. I would say most of us love our Cobb tunes, but there have been some complaints. Lots of details in a number of existing threads.

If you are on the fence I would point out Cobb offers a return policy with a full refund if you are not satisfied. I sat on the fence for quite a while, but ended up being sorry I did not buy mine a lot earlier.

 

[Chris in Philly]

We have Cobb tunes on both our GTS and Turbo (both first generation cars).

Highly recommended, especially for the Turbo. The GTS does not benefit as much as it already has a tune, it is an S engine with a factory tune already.

The Turbo gets sub 4 second 0 to 60 times even without launch control.

Very easy installation and you will be amazed by the immediate results.

 

[IndyGregM]

Highly recommended, especially for the Turbo. The GTS does not benefit as much as it already has a tune, it is an S engine with a factory tune already.

Not quite accurate. The GTS gets a slightly different turbo, and exhaust setup, along with possibly some other tweaks that I can't remember right now. An S with a tune will get to approximately where a GTS is (but with more torque below 4000RPM) and a GTS will gain similar amounts across the board.

The GTS with a 91 tune will make about 20-40HP more than the S with a 91 tune above 5200RPM.

 

[notmac1]

Not quite accurate. The GTS gets a slightly different turbo, and exhaust setup, along with possibly some other tweaks that I can't remember right now.

Actually both the S and GTS have the same turbos. The exhaust is the PSE sport exhaust and if added to the S they are then equal. The only difference motor wise is the tune and Cobb in earlier versions offered an OTS version copying the GTS tune so you could load the similar GTS tune to your S model. Not sure where the extra torque ratings come from as both motors are 3.0 liters with the same internals?

I believe the steering rack may differ between the S and GTS and of course the GTS comes stock with air suspension.

 

[Chris in Philly]

Not quite accurate. The GTS gets a slightly different turbo, and exhaust setup, along with possibly some other tweaks that I can't remember right now. An S with a tune will get to approximately where a GTS is (but with more torque below 4000RPM) and a GTS will gain similar amounts across the board.

The GTS with a 91 tune will make about 20-40HP more than the S with a 91 tune above 5200RPM.

Please stop spreading misinformation. This has been discussed at least a dozen times on this forum.

The gen 1 S and GTS have the same exact turbocharger. Porsche‘s marketing people might like you to believe otherwise, but the part numbers are identical.

And Cobb’s website clearly shows the GTS gains less horsepower and torque with their tune versus the S.

And there is no difference in the steering rack nor suspension hardware, except AS is standard on the GTS but only an option on the S. The only difference is that PIWIS is programmed to have the AS on the GTS lower versus an AS equipped S.

Many of the so-called differences on the GTS turned out to be nothing more than marketing hype by Porsche’s marketing communications people. They claimed the GTS has different suspension tuning, but all it amounts to is having at a lowered height.

Love our GTS, and the lowered suspension is definitely beneficial, but Porsche would like you to believe there’s a lot more going on here than there really is.

 

[GTS 31]

Just received this from Cobb Tuning this morning:
"2019-2021 USDM PORSCHE MACAN S, GTS, AND TURBO NOW SUPPORTED!
The Porsche Macan (S, GTS, Turbo) Accessport is now available for the 2019-2021 (95B.2) model years! Increase power output by over 30% with a simple flash tune! No need to remove the vehicle’s ECU, simply connect the Accessport to the car’s OBDII port to perform the flash! Support is available for the following models.
2019-2021 Porsche Macan S USDM
2020-2021 Porsche Macan GTS USDM
2020-2021 Porsche Macan Turbo USDM
All supported vehicles receive Stage 1 off the shelf (OTS) maps that are intended for an otherwise stock configuration. Maps are available for 91 octane and 93 octane fuel. All OTS maps have an executive order number for CARB approval and are legal in all 50 states. Additional information regarding OTS Maps along with 91 octane dyno charts can be found on the Map Notes page. Custom tuning support will not be immediately available however we plan to make available in the future. The power gains for these vehicles are significant, see dyno graphs below for power gains on each trim."

Ordering mine today 💪

 

[Spillywot48]

COBB are actually full of ****. Their “off the shelf” maps are ****.

 

[GTS 31]

COBB are actually full of *. Their “off the shelf” maps are *.

LOL! Great input. Thanks! 👍

 

[Dark_Side_GTS]

Looking forward to buying on soon from Flat6 Motorsports. Being able to flash it back to stock whenever I go in for service will come in handy!