I test drove a Macans after driving the diesel. The Macan S was horrible in low and mid torque. However, the Petrol version seems to be a better choice for future resale.

Is the Cobb Access port a good fix for the Macan S driveability?

 

Sounds like it.

The Macan S 3.0T engine should have lots of potential. Some 2.0T engines from other car makers have been tuned to over 300hp from the factory.

The question for the Macan S is what's the weakest link? It is not the engine.

 

What model year?



Hi Jason,
Maybe I missed something, but was unable to figure our what model year your Macan S is. I'd be curious to know.
Thanks.
And by the way, I'm glad to hear how pleased you are!

 

I installed the Cobb V-3 on my 2018 Macan S today and took it out for a spin. It is tough to find room to run in the Seattle area so my first impressions are based upon normal driving in the normal mode. Maybe more torque and definitely smooth as stock. I found a suitable road spot and dropped the choice into Sport +, which was installed yesterday, and let it all loose from standstill. I felt like that guy last weekend that shot his steam powered rocket up to 1,875' before he lost courage and pulled the chute. The combination of the Sport + and the Cobb Accessport really makes a huge difference. I felt the car should have been made this way to start with.

 

By way of background, I am wanting to move to a new Macan S from my current diesel. I would go with the GTS in preference but it's no longer available for order in Australia.

I just came back from a 70 Km run in a demo Macan S. Urban, highway and some tight hilly stuff. Have to admit that when you rev it out, the petrol performance difference over the diesel comes through. However, that side of my driving is only a small percentage of my overall drive on a practical basis. The round trip averaged 12 litres per 100 km which isn't bad I suppose. My diesel would do about 8.5 on the same trip and the fun factor would not be much less.

I had the pleasure of a 2 day Cayman loan car a few weeks back. I was really surprised at its driveability without having to rev it hard. Gobs of low down torque, absolutely brilliant and an example of what I call driveability. I'd love to have one but no room for our dog in the back.

I didn't expect a standard Macan S to be as good low down as the Macan diesel (which is why I bought the diesel in the first place) but didn't think it would be as deficient as it is. Just hoping that the Cobb Access Port might help out with torque at the 1500 - 3000 RPM scale.

Would really like to hear from other Macan S drivers who have installed the Cobb unit in a lower octane tune.

 

I have a '17 S with Cobb 91 tune (for the past 10 months). Definitely helps in the low end of the RPM range. Sport mode with Cobb gives a solid feel all through the power band. In comfort mode (with or without Cobb) I find a lag in low rpm, mostly because the pdk shifts to higher gears so quickly. If you're starting out with light acceleration at 25mph it's already shifted to 4th. If you then want to stomp in some acceleration there is a pronounced lag while the pdk shifts down a gear or two. In sport it holds the gears longer and brings on the torque much quicker with virtually no lag.

In a perfect world I would love it to default to sport mode but on startup I push the sport button by muscle memory now.

 

I have a '17 S with Cobb 91 tune (for the past 10 months). Definitely helps in the low end of the RPM range. Sport mode with Cobb gives a solid feel all through the power band. In comfort mode (with or without Cobb) I find a lag in low rpm, mostly because the pdk shifts to higher gears so quickly. If you're starting out with light acceleration at 25mph it's already shifted to 4th. If you then want to stomp in some acceleration there is a pronounced lag while the pdk shifts down a gear or two. In sport it holds the gears longer and brings on the torque much quicker with virtually no lag.

In a perfect world I would love it to default to sport mode but on startup I push the sport button by muscle memory now.

I agree, this needs to be fixed .

 

Other than maybe driving a bit harder with Cobb, do you sense that it has the same fuel consumption?

 

Seems about the same but haven't seriously measured it. On some long drive (200 miles +) routes that I've made pre and post Cobb mpg data from the car was the same. I don't trust the Macan's mpg calculations as empirically accurate, just like I know the speedometer has a few percentage points exaggeration, but on a relative basis they were the same.

With spirited and city driving I'd say a 1-2 mpg less. But worth it.

 

Thinking about a Sport + retrofit (Macan S). Should I just go COBB instead?
Will not be tracking, but I try to fit in a spirited drive at least once a week.

 

From my recent experience I recommend both. They are complementary. When you all ready have all these biscuits invested in your car you might as well make it perfect.

 

Thanks wwahl! Looking for couch change now...!

 

..hope it's a big couch.

 

Anyone with a GTS or S go for the pro tune?

 

I have a GTS and I am wondering of the same thing.

 

Hi wwahl,
It's been a couple of weeks since your Cobb AP installation. How is it feeling now?

 

I should pitch in a few comments as well once I have the AP installed. Just hooked up a battery charger as the first step. In a few hours should be ready to flash and dash.

 

I run Cobb 93 in sport mode all the time on the Turbo. Works great. May try the 91 map to see how that does

 

I ran 91 on purpose first to “feel” the TQ/HP increase over stock without going to full-bore 93. I also wanted to see how the engine mapping and ECU combined at the lower map. The stock GTS is plenty fast for me... I just felt like toying around with it. I will check out the 93 map as well, and see how it feels. I’m not too proud to admit that if I don’t end up liking either, I’ll reflash to stock and sell the AccessPort.

In all honesty, I didn’t buy the Macan to really drive the doors off it. I just wanted something more fun to drive every day than a regular SUV (but could still haul the kiddos around and some work stuff from time to time).... something with a little pep, and of course, style. I had been shopping CPOd F-Paces for the last year... and just couldn’t find one that I liked. Then I started looking at Macans out of the blue, and I really liked them. They just never crossed my mind before...





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All - Thinking of doing a Cobb tune on my Macan. Has anyone out there had good/bad experiences with Cobb and a Macan? Is it worth the money? I realize it is about a 10% increase in BHP, but torque increase by of 25%. Thoughts appreciated.

 

Use the search feature and you will find almost endless discussion on this. I would say most of us love our Cobb tunes, but there have been some complaints. Lots of details in a number of existing threads.

If you are on the fence I would point out Cobb offers a return policy with a full refund if you are not satisfied. I sat on the fence for quite a while, but ended up being sorry I did not buy mine a lot earlier.

 

We have Cobb tunes on both our GTS and Turbo (both first generation cars).

Highly recommended, especially for the Turbo. The GTS does not benefit as much as it already has a tune, it is an S engine with a factory tune already.

The Turbo gets sub 4 second 0 to 60 times even without launch control.

Very easy installation and you will be amazed by the immediate results.

 

Highly recommended, especially for the Turbo. The GTS does not benefit as much as it already has a tune, it is an S engine with a factory tune already.

Not quite accurate. The GTS gets a slightly different turbo, and exhaust setup, along with possibly some other tweaks that I can't remember right now. An S with a tune will get to approximately where a GTS is (but with more torque below 4000RPM) and a GTS will gain similar amounts across the board.

The GTS with a 91 tune will make about 20-40HP more than the S with a 91 tune above 5200RPM.

 

Just received this from Cobb Tuning this morning:
"2019-2021 USDM PORSCHE MACAN S, GTS, AND TURBO NOW SUPPORTED!
The Porsche Macan (S, GTS, Turbo) Accessport is now available for the 2019-2021 (95B.2) model years! Increase power output by over 30% with a simple flash tune! No need to remove the vehicle’s ECU, simply connect the Accessport to the car’s OBDII port to perform the flash! Support is available for the following models.
2019-2021 Porsche Macan S USDM
2020-2021 Porsche Macan GTS USDM
2020-2021 Porsche Macan Turbo USDM
All supported vehicles receive Stage 1 off the shelf (OTS) maps that are intended for an otherwise stock configuration. Maps are available for 91 octane and 93 octane fuel. All OTS maps have an executive order number for CARB approval and are legal in all 50 states. Additional information regarding OTS Maps along with 91 octane dyno charts can be found on the Map Notes page. Custom tuning support will not be immediately available however we plan to make available in the future. The power gains for these vehicles are significant, see dyno graphs below for power gains on each trim."

Ordering mine today 💪

 

COBB are actually full of ****. Their “off the shelf” maps are ****.

 

COBB are actually full of *. Their “off the shelf” maps are *.

LOL! Great input. Thanks! 👍

 

Looking forward to buying on soon from Flat6 Motorsports. Being able to flash it back to stock whenever I go in for service will come in handy!

 

Those who have good experiences with the Cobb tuners, go for it! I've had great performance increases with all of my 911's. Those who take the Cobb units, "hyper-tweak" and, well, increase the risk of blowing something up, go for that too. I've done both.

My 911's and the GTS I have now are already freaking fast. I'm really just looking to restore the "de-tune" they did with my 2020 GTS to the twin turbo spec engine under my hood. But after talking with Cobb this morning, he said they've been seeing 475 or more HP. And there is significant increase in torque as well. Ordered mine today! We'll see... 😉

 

Only good experiences here. I've had Cobb tunes- Stage 1 for my Golf R, and before that, Stage 2 for my Subaru (which made gobs of smooth power).

 

No love for the 2022 MYs?
Plus is it really as easy as “taking it off” before bringing you to dealership? They should be able to tell that a system had been reflagged recently right?

 

I'm wondering the same. This was definitely true for VW. Even if you flashed back to stock the dealer could tell, if they looked- you would get flagged with a TD1 code.

 

I put a Cobb on my ‘20 WRX and the off the shelf tune was better that the uneven stock tune, but was not much better and the DAM was not good. I ended up going to Dotson Tuning in Fort Worth and he did a great job giving it a ”reliable” tune which is what I was after (not a high performance tune that would stress the head gasket).

The minute I drove away it put a smile on my face - she was finally a happy car with smooth power delivery.

I don’t know if this would be a similar case with a Macan, but I imagine a custom tune on a dyno might be preferred to the generic tune that comes on the Access Port. Elevation, humidity, and available fuel are factors that are individual to the end user.

Just my two cents.

 

I was a big fan of the cobb tune when I had it on. Can't say I wanted to eek out every ounce of performance for more power and risk damage.