For those ones that are on the fence of getting Connect ($830 Option) or Connect Plus ($1300 Option) because of CarPlay, Engadget just released a review of it.
CarPlay Review
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Yes. I was just hoping to hear from someone before taking the plunge. Initial reviews suggested some bugs (eg Pandora) so trying to decide whether to update or wait.
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I posted earlier above about Pandora not loading but I deleted all 3 of my CP apps, reloaded them & all is well, including Pandora.
Away from my 17 S presently but when I get back to it I'll see if I can't get us some feedback here re. the turn by turn question.
Used CarPlay (iPhone 6+ with iOS 10.0.1) to get home today. Got turn by turn instructions including rerouting when I selected an alternate route. Also got good real-time traffic information. Before we requested guidance the estimated ETA to Home was not updating correctly, but once we selected guidance it worked fine.
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Does the map or turn by turn show up in the screen next to speedometer? Or only on main PCM screen?
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@keloutwest Nope. Map doesn't show in dash!
But the UI of the map definitely improved. More Google Map like!
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CarPlay Map on Dash Display?
Still waiting on my Macan, but just tried the iOS 10 update to CarPlay in my wife's 2016 M-B (which can show factory M-B nav turn-by-turn in the instrument cluster). The CarPlay display is good with maps on the big M-B nav screen, but the nav interface in the instrument cluster does NOT show the nav turn-by-turn directions -- it only shows "connected to Apple CarPlay". :-/
Although disappointed, I think there are other great display options to keep on the instrument cluster screen (for M-B or Porsche), and one can leave the maps on the PCM screen.
Waiting on my Macan S. I did not order Porsche Nav, but only the CarPlay option. I decided to save the $2k+ (even more if nav and Connect Plus!), because I found that after ordering factory nav on my wife's car, she doesn't use it! Only uses her iPhone because it's easier.
Reflecting on my personal "nav trends", I like to use my phone, because I can speak or click an address in Google (or Apple) maps, and it's very responsive & current. I don't know about Porsche, but the various built-in nav systems I've had previously (even the new M-B) are sometimes difficult to operate (or remember the voice commands) and take a long time to get an address correct -- the phone always seemed much faster & responsive. I imagine having it on the CarPlay display is nicer than figuring out where to prop up my phone.
Still waiting on my Macan, but just tried the iOS 10 update to CarPlay in my wife's 2016 M-B (which can show factory M-B nav turn-by-turn in the instrument cluster). The CarPlay display is good with maps on the big M-B nav screen, but the nav interface in the instrument cluster does NOT show the nav turn-by-turn directions -- it only shows "connected to Apple CarPlay". :-/
Although disappointed, I think there are other great display options to keep on the instrument cluster screen (for M-B or Porsche), and one can leave the maps on the PCM screen.
Waiting on my Macan S. I did not order Porsche Nav, but only the CarPlay option. I decided to save the $2k+ (even more if nav and Connect Plus!), because I found that after ordering factory nav on my wife's car, she doesn't use it! Only uses her iPhone because it's easier.
Reflecting on my personal "nav trends", I like to use my phone, because I can speak or click an address in Google (or Apple) maps, and it's very responsive & current. I don't know about Porsche, but the various built-in nav systems I've had previously (even the new M-B) are sometimes difficult to operate (or remember the voice commands) and take a long time to get an address correct -- the phone always seemed much faster & responsive. I imagine having it on the CarPlay display is nicer than figuring out where to prop up my phone.
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If you have an Apple Watch the turn by turn map shows up in your wrist and the haptics tells you when to turn right or left without the need to see any screen. Look at the attached pic.
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OK... so how are we suppose to get that? A dealer job?
great....I can look down at my watch instead of looking head at the road. No, my watch is not in my field of vision in normal driving and I don't really want haptic feedback while I'm driving. I suspect that capability is one that was announced because they could announce it...not because it's at all useful....in fact it's almost dangerous considering how you have to turn your driving hand to see the dial of the watch or think about that haptic feedback while negotiating traffic, people walking in front of the car, etc.. But for apple lovers, I guess it's a great feature....until it isn't.
no, it's distracting
Next time I bring my car in for service, I'm going to ask them to update. I think I read that it's supposed to fix bugs like the lack of Siri activation using the voice activation stalk, so I'm hoping it won't be an issue. It'd be one thing if it was an update just to add features. It's another when it's an update to fix fairly large bugs.
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Who are you people?
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I agree, the iWatch lets me, at a glance, determine if I need to pull over and take care of a text. As a physician, I find that useful.
Your hand does not even need to leave the wheel.
I would probably prefer it on the screen in the instrument cluster.
I keep ordering NAV in my car. I figure they will consider it too distracting, one day, and ban them.
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I think you guys should just do something like this:
http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/poke_han_1.jpg
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http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/poke_han_1.jpg
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I've had the apple watch since it was released. A few months ago I took it off because the buzzing from the stupid thing kept breaking my focus. With the new OS, I updated it and am giving it another chance. This time I turned off every single notification and the thing never buzzes. It's basically a timepiece and something I use for tracking my heart rate and workouts...that's it. I absolutely love it for these purposes and can't stand it for anything else. Too small to look at and too distracting for messaging and notifications.
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@kdr As an admittedly huge Apple fan boy, I immediately ordered the Watch (stainless) when it came out. What a disappointment. Took it back in less than a week.
When Watch OS2 came out, I decided to try it again, but only got the Sport instead in case I felt the same. It's much better, but still not really great. I also can't stand all the notifications. Plus so many of the apps are totally pointless or useless at that screen size.
When the iPhone 7 came out, ordered two on the first day for the wife and I, just as I have for every other iPhone release (well, stood in line for the first few iterations). Didn't even consider the Watch.
Didn't even bother to upgrade to Watch OS3 the first day, but certainly did ios10 on the phones while waiting for the 7s to arrive.
The new OS3 version is much better, but honestly, it has nowhere to go but up... Still a long way from caring about it.
This is the only Apple product I have ever bought and been utterly disappointed in.
Now, back to the CarPlay topic--I did try using the new Maps version, which works quite well. But the previous version worked fine for me too. However, it's still nothing compared to Waze (but what happened to the Porsche icons?). I really like the social aspect, primarily the Police markers. Neither Apple Maps nor Google Maps can touch it without that integration. I'm actually surprised Google hasn't added it, but I guess they want to keep the products differentiated.
While I previously said I really want CarPlay, until they open up 3rd party apps, it's just not that significant. My phone on my proclipusa mount does just fine.
When Watch OS2 came out, I decided to try it again, but only got the Sport instead in case I felt the same. It's much better, but still not really great. I also can't stand all the notifications. Plus so many of the apps are totally pointless or useless at that screen size.
When the iPhone 7 came out, ordered two on the first day for the wife and I, just as I have for every other iPhone release (well, stood in line for the first few iterations). Didn't even consider the Watch.
Didn't even bother to upgrade to Watch OS3 the first day, but certainly did ios10 on the phones while waiting for the 7s to arrive.
The new OS3 version is much better, but honestly, it has nowhere to go but up... Still a long way from caring about it.
This is the only Apple product I have ever bought and been utterly disappointed in.
Now, back to the CarPlay topic--I did try using the new Maps version, which works quite well. But the previous version worked fine for me too. However, it's still nothing compared to Waze (but what happened to the Porsche icons?). I really like the social aspect, primarily the Police markers. Neither Apple Maps nor Google Maps can touch it without that integration. I'm actually surprised Google hasn't added it, but I guess they want to keep the products differentiated.
While I previously said I really want CarPlay, until they open up 3rd party apps, it's just not that significant. My phone on my proclipusa mount does just fine.
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I agree on the watch. I like the heart rate monitor a lot. It's more dependable than the straps I've used in the past. Beyond that I could take it or leave it.
I love CarPlay. I switch around between apple radio, pandora and my own music collection a lot. I wish the map app was more creative with routes like Waze but it seems to be improving. I too use Waze on my phone with a mount and toggle between Waze and CarPlay as needed.
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@kdr But that's the thing, the heart rate monitor was why I bought the Apple watch to begin with. But it only monitors the heart every ~10 minutes unless you are exercising (And back on OS1 more like hourly). My FitBitHR does constant monitoring, and lasts several days before needing a charge. But unfortunately it looks like a FitBit vs a watch... Plus
I am enjoying the new Breath app though.
I am enjoying the new Breath app though.
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