[jrjunior31]

I just tried to spec PCM inc. Navigation module ($1730) with Connect ($830) on a '17 GTS. It's not compatible. You can option Connect by itself (to get CarPlay) but you are forced to delete the PCM with navigation module option. PCM including Navigation Module can only be optioned by itself (no CarPlay) or with Connect Plus ($1300) - which gives you CarPlay, WiFi hotspot, Google Earth, Google street view, LTE phone module etc. The total of this combo is $3030.

Very confusing but I'm starting to wonder if just ordering Connect with no navigation is the best way to go. For only $830 you can use Apple Maps through CarPlay for visual navigation or just use Google maps voice like in current non-navigation models. You also get improved Siri recognition and all the benefits of CarPlay. Down the road as another member mentioned Google Maps may indeed work with CarPlay. Considering the hassle of inputting addresses into a car based Navigation is it worth $3030 for PCM navigation + Connect Plus as opposed to just the $830 for Connect that will give you Apple CarPlay?

 

[Aprilia850]

Yeah that is more clear but the other feature that I was mainly referring to is the search features that are powered by google / internet. When you search for nearby "restaurants" it should be same results as when you do it on the phone App and not older libraries. It is internet powered with current data which should improve overall UI experience and biggest thing lacking in most current navigation units by manufactures.

We can do this today using Google POI search and AHA...

 

[Aprilia850]

I just tried to spec PCM inc. Navigation module ($1730) with Connect ($830) on a '17 GTS. It's not compatible. You can option Connect by itself (to get CarPlay) but you are forced to delete the PCM with navigation module option. PCM including Navigation Module can only be optioned by itself (no CarPlay) or with Connect Plus ($1300) - which gives you CarPlay, WiFi hotspot, Google Earth, Google street view, LTE phone module etc. The total of this combo is $3030.

Very confusing but I'm starting to wonder if just ordering Connect with no navigation is the best way to go. For only $830 you can use Apple Maps through CarPlay for visual navigation or just use Google maps voice like in current non-navigation models. You also get improved Siri recognition and all the benefits of CarPlay. Down the road as another member mentioned Google Maps may indeed work with CarPlay. Considering the hassle of inputting addresses into a car based Navigation is it worth $3030 for PCM navigation + Connect Plus as opposed to just the $830 for Connect that will give you Apple CarPlay?

I think it also came with Porsche car tracking on Car Connect which if I am not mistaken is another subscription based service...

 

[Cosworthstag]

From someone who has CarPlay
Don't bother Apple maps looses signal and took me up dirt track on Ferrari !!
Tunes play better from iPod
Other than voice texts not much else on offer

 

[jrjunior31]

I think it also came with Porsche car tracking on Car Connect which if I am not mistaken is another subscription based service...

Yes the $830 Connect option includes:

Apple CarPlay™
Apple Carplay™ is the smart interface enabling in-car access to the apps of an iPhone® via the PCM. Using "Siri®", the Apple voice recognition interface, it is possible to compose text messages, have SMS read out loud, sendreplies and make phone calls, or listen to music and podcasts

Porsche Car Connect
Porsche Car Connect including Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (PVTS) for retrieving vehicle data via a smartphone app and for remote control of selected vehicle functions

The Porsche Car Connect seems essentially useless but correct me if I'm wrong. Perhaps starting the car remotely in a cold climate to heat up the interior? That's nice if possible I guess...

 

[PygmyOctopus]

I just tried to spec PCM inc. Navigation module ($1730) with Connect ($830) on a '17 GTS. It's not compatible. You can option Connect by itself (to get CarPlay) but you are forced to delete the PCM with navigation module option. PCM including Navigation Module can only be optioned by itself (no CarPlay) or with Connect Plus ($1300) - which gives you CarPlay, WiFi hotspot, Google Earth, Google street view, LTE phone module etc. The total of this combo is $3030.

Very confusing but I'm starting to wonder if just ordering Connect with no navigation is the best way to go. For only $830 you can use Apple Maps through CarPlay for visual navigation or just use Google maps voice like in current non-navigation models. You also get improved Siri recognition and all the benefits of CarPlay. Down the road as another member mentioned Google Maps may indeed work with CarPlay. Considering the hassle of inputting addresses into a car based Navigation is it worth $3030 for PCM navigation + Connect Plus as opposed to just the $830 for Connect that will give you Apple CarPlay?

The way I interpret it is that Connect Plus replaces the PCM.
It gives you the old PCM functionality, but you get Google earth etc. added onto the original Porsche mapping. And at a lower price also.

 

[PygmyOctopus]

From someone who has CarPlay
Don't bother Apple maps looses signal and took me up dirt track on Ferrari !!
Tunes play better from iPod
Other than voice texts not much else on offer

Yes well... the Ferrari implementation has come in for a bit of criticism.
I'm very much hoping Porsche does a much better job.

As for Apple maps losing signal - that's a function of your data connection, maybe look at changing your service provider?

 

[jrjunior31]

The way I interpret it is that Connect Plus replaces the PCM.
It gives you the old PCM functionality, but you get Google earth etc. added onto the original Porsche mapping. And at a lower price also.

If this were the case then Connect Plus would be available as a stand-alone option. It is not. To order Connect Plus the configurator forces to you to add PCM inc navigation ($1730) to get the actual in-car navigation module. Connect Plus enhances the "old style" PCM navigation by giving you 3D imagery, Google earth and street view, CarPlay, On-board Wifi etc...

 

[PygmyOctopus]

If this were the case then Connect Plus would be available as a stand-alone option. It is not. To order Connect Plus the configurator forces to you to add PCM inc navigation ($1730) to get the actual in-car navigation module. Connect Plus enhances the "old style" PCM navigation by giving you 3D imagery, Google earth and street view, CarPlay, On-board Wifi etc...

Sorry; I didn't think this through - our Macans here have Nav fitted as standard, so I haven't been able to play around with the same options.

What you've written here sounds spot on, Porsche makes you pay, then pay some more... Sounds like the stand alone Connect might be quite a good cost effective option.

 

[jrjunior31]

Sorry; I didn't think this through - our Macans here have Nav fitted as standard, so I haven't been able to play around with the same options.

What you've written here sounds spot on, Porsche makes you pay, then pay some more... Sounds like the stand alone Connect might be quite a good cost effective option.

Yes, good point I was referring to the US configurator, all markets are slightly different. At this point I have gone with just Connect and freed up $2200 or so. Of course this has now cost me even more because I put that $2200 toward the GTS Leather Interior Package which may be the most obscene option on the GTS, it's almost 5K, whereas the Partial Leather Garnet/Black Package is only $240. Also here in the US I am not able to option seat ventilation i.c.w the GTS interior Leather option, even though the configurator shows the little perforated leather holes on camera flight mode. Need to check on this with the dealer but if you want the GTS interior, seat ventilation may be out...

 

[RJMcInnis]

Did you think apple would support anything but their own product! Apple maps sucks.

@ejvette First off Apple Maps does not suck. When initially deployed there were issues in certain areas that got highlighted and blown out of proportion because people like to complain about Apple. Google maps and Apple maps today are very similar. Each has strengths and weaknesses.

My disappointment would be not having Waze. Waze partially utilizes Google Maps (and Google uses Waze traffic reports), but adds so many driver-friendly features it blows both of the others out of the water, as well as Garmin, Tom-Tom, and Here (Nokia).

I would assume that over time additional options will be added, just as they were on both the iPhone and iPad.

Apple errs on the side of caution whenever they release new things. That is not new.

As much as I have been a vocal proponent of CarPlay, it is not perfect, nor is it exactly what I want. It is however better than all of the other options I have hands on experience with.

 

[ejvette]

@ejvette First off Apple Maps does not suck. .

I wont debate this point because I happen to like most apple products but on the list of available map apps the apple is on the bottom of course that's just MHO.:x

 

[germinal]

I hate this thread... Makes me sad... Ordered a macan few months ago, will go in production end of the month... But no CarPlay / updated PCM and LED for me

Kinda makes me feel like I ordered a new but already outdated car

I know te car will drive as good but you know, just feel left out

Anyways I hope Some of you can re-order?

Also I wonder when the SA knew about these developments. Because when the news with the 911 came out I went to my SA and he said not to worry that it would not reach the macan before end of 2016.

Now it appears as soon as 01.16 ?

 

[adamxcl]

I repeat RJMcInns in that Apple maps had issues but it is worlds better now and gets better every month. They are putting a massive effort into improving it while others coast and cut in areas they shouldn't. My business relies on both Apple and Google maps so I deal with it all day long. Google has been handicapping their maps for the past year or two, taking things out, while Apple and Bing are improving, so I would not want to rely on Google forever. Or any one company if possible. If I had a choice, it would be to just mirror a phone of any kind instead of something running connected to the car. And I am actually using Bing Maps on computers now because it is much faster.

Apple and Google are competitors so they don't want it to be easy to use the other. I would prefer Waze over anything but that is Google so it probably won't happen. Google makes all their revenue tracking you, collecting and selling data and/or serving ads around it. From a tech security standpoint, I don't want Android anywhere near my car. Android phones can be penetrated in about 9 seconds. A unsecured iPhone is about 40-45 seconds. I saw cars being hacked this summer first hand. Watched Tesla get hacked and it get fixed in less than a day. They are responsive. Jeep just puts masking tape over their logo so you can't read their name. I tested some common tactics and was successful. If it uses wifi, Bluetooth or a radio signal, it's vulnerable. Only with all signals off, are you mostly safe. You can fake a LTE signal and get a cell to connect but that is a little harder. That is getting off track but it is why I wish I had control and choice.

Apple Car Play will be the smoothest thing right now but who knows in a few years. I can just see the days when something from a third party is "updated" and then it doesn't work. Apple keeps more control of the whole line and provides updates for years while Android is more wild and likely to leave you in the dust before a lease is up so to speak. Android has so many different hands in the pot and that can make it both cool and a hot mess. If they can't get updates to phones, they won't be able to do it with cars.

I always liked a idea of just having a spot built in for your own tablet and a connection for audio to hear from the device. Then maybe a app that interprets info from the ODB/car computer. Then it isn't dated as you can replace both hardware and get app updates. And maybe not have something dated and useless in 10 years. A 20 year old 911 is still functional now. But what if in 2030, your 2016 911 just has a blank screen and a worthless connection prompt.

 

[Pokerhobo]

The great thing about Car Play is that Apple will continue to improve it and I won't have to pay for incremental upgrades. Hopefully more 3rd party apps will become available.

 

[dawiz4u]

I hate this thread... Makes me sad... Ordered a macan few months ago, will go in production end of the month... But no CarPlay / updated PCM and LED for me

Kinda makes me feel like I ordered a new but already outdated car

I know te car will drive as good but you know, just feel left out

Anyways I hope Some of you can re-order?

Also I wonder when the SA knew about these developments. Because when the news with the 911 came out I went to my SA and he said not to worry that it would not reach the macan before end of 2016.

Now it appears as soon as 01.16 ?

Cancel your order and reorder a 2017 if that's what you really want. Call your SA and tell him what you want to do. It might cost you a little more with the price increase, but at least you'll get what you want.

 

[santastico]

I totally understand your frustration. It happened to me when I order a BMW X5 in 2011 and I asked my SA when the new LED angel lights where coming out and he "confirmed" to me that not in the next 6-8 months. Guess what? Less than 1 month after I took delivery of my car the new LED lights were out. I was so mad!!!!

As for your Macan I would just do not take delivery. I would be pissed as well so if you are not in a hurry I would talk to your SA and ask if you can order a new car. I have mine for 8 months now and it already feels an outdated car more so that my exterior color was discontinued.

I hate this thread... Makes me sad... Ordered a macan few months ago, will go in production end of the month... But no CarPlay / updated PCM and LED for me

Kinda makes me feel like I ordered a new but already outdated car

I know te car will drive as good but you know, just feel left out

Anyways I hope Some of you can re-order?

Also I wonder when the SA knew about these developments. Because when the news with the 911 came out I went to my SA and he said not to worry that it would not reach the macan before end of 2016.

Now it appears as soon as 01.16 ?

 

[PygmyOctopus]

Also I wonder when the SA knew about these developments. Because when the news with the 911 came out I went to my SA and he said not to worry that it would not reach the macan before end of 2016.

Now it appears as soon as 01.16 ?

Where are you from?

If the US, then your SA's seem to know nothing about anything. Period.

If Aust then he would have known, at least the broad picture, in early Sept.

If I were you I'd cancel and reorder.

 

[Doconefall]

Btw for those of you praising Waze and bashing Google....guess who now owns Waze?

Hint: G__gle

 

[Christopurr]

I *just* put in an order for a 2016 MY.. I was planning on holding out for 2017, but I called every porsche dealer in SoCal many times over and all of them said the same thing "Late Summer - Fall 2016, no earlier than July or August". Decided it wasn't worth it just for carplay, since i would be using Waze anyhow and I would probably get an aftermarket HUD like Navdi or something, and ordered a MY 2016 for delivery in February.