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#121 ·
M2.5

At least those were the ones I used.

Electronics-Salon Metric M2.5 Hex Male-Female Brass Standoff/Stainless Steel Screw Nut Assortment Kit, for Raspberry-Pi. Spacer 6mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 15mm 18mm 20mm 25mm, Nut M2.5, Screw M2.5 x 6mm. Electronics-Salon Metric M2.5 Hex Male-Female Brass Standoff/Stainless Steel Screw Nut Assortment Kit, for Raspberry-Pi. Spacer 6mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 15mm 18mm 20mm 25mm, Nut M2.5, Screw M2.5 x 6mm.: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific


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#122 ·
Santirx said:
M2.5

At least those were the ones I used.

Electronics-Salon Metric M2.5 Hex Male-Female Brass Standoff/Stainless Steel Screw Nut Assortment Kit, for Raspberry-Pi. Spacer 6mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 15mm 18mm 20mm 25mm, Nut M2.5, Screw M2.5 x 6mm. Electronics-Salon Metric M2.5 Hex Male-Female Brass Standoff/Stainless Steel Screw Nut Assortment Kit, for Raspberry-Pi. Spacer 6mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 15mm 18mm 20mm 25mm, Nut M2.5, Screw M2.5 x 6mm.: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific


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Perfect. I probably should have asked here first! Would have saved me lost of hassle.

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#123 ·
I hopefully I can fit tomorrow once standoffs arrive.

BTW - I can confirm the following:
1. No aux blanking plug (did you say this was needed for audio to work via aux) maybe they found away around this and audio takes over aux channel/button.

2. There is no external box. Everything I included in photo is what I recieved.

3. It came with a microphone which looks like knockoff oem. This means it will fit in oem microphone slot with no modification or if you already have it should just use from the offset.

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#124 ·
Don16 said:
I hopefully I can fit tomorrow once standoffs arrive.

BTW - I can confirm the following:
1. No aux blanking plug (did you say this was needed for audio to work via aux) maybe they found away around this and audio takes over aux channel/button.

2. There is no external box. Everything I included in photo is what I recieved.

3. It came with a microphone which looks like knockoff oem. This means it will fit in oem microphone slot with no modification or if you already have it should just use from the offset.

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Can you show where the OEM mic would go? I don’t have it, and have no idea where is the space to install it.
 
#128 ·
Installed this today.

Pros:
  • Wireless android auto works well and no dropouts experienced yet
  • no issues with it switching to 360 surround cameras when going in to reverse
  • Uses factory built in microphone (Bluetooth) for hey google/siri
  • Snappy interface, very quick with no lag (using an Samsung S9)
  • Everything works as before with no issues.

Negatives
- Audio quality is definitely worse. I would say 20-30% worse. However it's not as bad as I thought it would be. I played around with EQ on pcm and switching off surround definitely improves things as does playing around with the android auto unit EQ.
I also keep audio on android auto unit at 35 out of 40 which seems to help quality.
Think audio would be better on AUX BT but that's not possible with android auto, not that I have found anyways.
- There is an option (see image) factory usb switch, not worked out what this does as it doesn't seem to do anything and switches off after a while.

Any questions ask away.

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#129 ·
Don16 said:
Installed this today.

Pros:
  • Wireless android auto works well and no dropouts experienced yet
  • no issues with it switching to 360 surround cameras when going in to reverse
  • Uses factory built in microphone (Bluetooth) for hey google/siri
  • Snappy interface, very quick with no lag (using an Samsung S9)
  • Everything works as before with no issues.

Negatives
- Audio quality is definitely worse. I would say 20-30% worse. However it's not as bad as I thought it would be. I played around with EQ on pcm and switching off surround definitely improves things as does playing around with the android auto unit EQ.
I also keep audio on android auto unit at 35 out of 40 which seems to help quality.
Think audio would be better on AUX BT but that's not possible with android auto, not that I have found anyways.
- There is an option (see image) factory usb switch, not worked out what this does as it doesn't seem to do anything and switches off after a while.

Any questions ask away.

Video coming soon...

Image


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Thanks.

Disappointed to hear about the audio quality, but not quite unexpected. I just had hopes that it would sound better. Let’s see when I receive mine.

About the mic, does that mean that you didn’t have to use the provided microphone, and that it integrated with the existing OEM one?

Also, are you connecting directly via the provided USB input and using wired AUX?
 
#130 ·
Santirx said:
Thanks.

Disappointed to hear about the audio quality, but not quite unexpected. I just had hopes that it would sound better. Let’s see when I receive mine.

About the mic, does that mean that you didn’t have to use the provided microphone, and that it integrated with the existing one?
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Re microphone: Correct


Re audio: Also no requirement for that aux plug you pictured further up. Kit doesn't even come with one.

Not sure if there is anyway to improve the audio further with a tweak in firmware.

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#131 ·
Don16 said:
Re microphone: Correct


Re audio: Also no requirement for that aux plug you pictured further up. Kit doesn't even come with one.

Not sure if there is anyway to improve the audio further with a tweak in firmware.

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cool, on the mic. That’s an improvement.

I have to assume that audio is a bit better than what I have right now via AUX. I’ll have to re-tune my system, which will make it better anyway. Let’s see. If equal or worst, then I’ll do what I’m doing right now. Bypassing the module via the iPod input and wirelessly transmitting the CarPlay image.
 
#134 ·
Don16 said:

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Nice video! It helps in anticipation of my install.

When I saw you connecting the large ribbon wire to the wrong slot I was like “Noooo! Don16… the other one!” 😂

Good thing that you caught it. I knew you were going to figure out when trying to connect the ribbons on the CarPlay board, as they would not fit.

Also, if I remember correctly, you don’t have to remove the top two screws in the rear of the CD player to be able to remove it… I may be wrong… long time since I did it last.

Good move passing the wire harnesses through the SiriusXM slot.

Again, great video man! Hoping to share and exchange more ideas when mine arrives. I’ll be replacing the older model of the CarPlay module. This will give me good perspective and I’ll be able to compare both setups.
 
#136 ·
Opt1k said:
So what's the verdict on sound quality? Same POS as joyauto or on another level?
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The verdict is its probably the same as joyauto, maybe a bit better (haven't got joyauto to check, It still routes audio out and then back in via aux.

If we could find a way or a solution to route audio via aux Bluetooth whilst connected to carplay, audio would be better. However I think this limitation is carplay android auto rather than the unit. Just wish they could have used another method for audio just logically I'm not sure how they could.


One issue I have been having is I can't seem to get Google assistance to work when asking it to do stuff, it recognises my voice fine and command appears on the screen but it just always says "Something went wrong, please try again". Google news and weather is working as is maps.

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#138 ·
Don16 said:
The verdict is its probably the same as joyauto, maybe a bit better (haven't got joyauto to check, It still routes audio out and then back in via aux.

If we could find a way or a solution to route audio via aux Bluetooth whilst connected to carplay, audio would be better. However I think this limitation is carplay android auto rather than the unit. Just wish they could have used another method for audio just logically I'm not sure how they could.


One issue I have been having is I can't seem to get Google assistance to work when asking it to do stuff, it recognises my voice fine and command appears on the screen but it just always says "Something went wrong, please try again". Google news and weather is working as is maps.

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What happens if you connect to PCM BT for audio and then connect to carplay? This works for me but connection drops to carplay so I had to disable PCM BT. Can you test this way?
 
#139 ·
Opt1k said:
What happens if you connect to PCM BT for audio and then connect to carplay? This works for me but connection drops to carplay so I had to disable PCM BT. Can you test this way?
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Doesn't work for me on android auto. It seems AA forces audio via AA so even though I have Bluetooth set as audio and pcm set to Bluetooth aux, I simply get no audio.

Disconnecting from AA brings audio back.

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