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#42 ·
I installed it myself and the backup camera doesn’t display when in CarPlay mode. I have to press NAVI everytime I have to reverse . Also the new harness would NOT power up my screen so I ended up using the original harness. The tech support on WhatsApp responds once every 2 days so I couldn’t get proper help I needed. Might be returning it
 
#43 ·
So finally installed my Joyeauto carplay today. Just wanted to say a massive thanks to everyone on this forum. All your advice helped me avoid all the pitfalls. I used @Santirx's approach to the LCD wire rather than drilling a hole, although I had to bend the terminal connector slightly with some pliers to be able to align the screw.

I decided to store mine on the driver's side in the space under the front console between the steering wheel and the door. Apparently, it's the placement Joyeauto recommends and I can see why. There's acres of space there! It's all just bundled in at the moment but I'll use some zip ties and velcro to get it all strapped in there safely. I've not yet found a neat route for the USB port, but since I have no interest in mirroring or a wired connection I've just left it tucked in there with the rest of the wires.

The only issue I've had is when I switch out to the standard PCM using the Navi button, it seems to struggle to switch back. I hold it down for 5 or so seconds and when I let go it seems to spasm between the two. Turning the car on and off seems to sort it. Hoping it's just a teething issue.

But overall I'm delighted with it. Reverse cam and everything kicks in automatically. And for the record, fitting that new wiring loom in is a b****!
 
#44 ·
Tony G said:
I installed it myself and the backup camera doesn’t display when in CarPlay mode. I have to press NAVI everytime I have to reverse . Also the new harness would NOT power up my screen so I ended up using the original harness. The tech support on WhatsApp responds once every 2 days so I couldn’t get proper help I needed. Might be returning it
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With the reversing cam, have you checked pin 8 is to ON, if you have an OEM reverse cam? If so, then it should just kick you out to the original Porsche PCM everytime you engage reverse gear. Also with the new harness, make sure the big black connector is in REALLY tight and all the sub connectors within it are in tight too. That did it for me.
 
#45 ·
So I've discovered one annoyance with the Joyeauto CarPlay. The audio quality is significantly diminished if you have the BOSE set up. Does anyone know if this is because of the quality of the aux cable in the Joyeauto set or because it seems to be putting a straight stereo output through the speakers and the tweeters at the front can't hack it? If it's the former, I'll try swapping out the cable for a higher quality gold plated one or I'll make one with some decent speaker wire, if the latter I'll see if I can find some relatively inexpensive tweeters to replace the BOSE ones.

I know there are workarounds by playing music directly through the PCM, but it defeats the purpose of the total convenience of CarPlay.
 
#46 ·
ChimpSafari said:
So I've discovered one annoyance with the Joyeauto CarPlay. The audio quality is significantly diminished if you have the BOSE set up. Does anyone know if this is because of the quality of the aux cable in the Joyeauto set or because it seems to be putting a straight stereo output through the speakers and the tweeters at the front can't hack it? If it's the former, I'll try swapping out the cable for a higher quality gold plated one or I'll make one with some decent speaker wire, if the latter I'll see if I can find some relatively inexpensive tweeters to replace the BOSE ones.

I know there are workarounds by playing music directly through the PCM, but it defeats the purpose of the total convenience of CarPlay.
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Can you play audio direct from PCM(DAB for example) whilst also using say carplay or AA at the same time?

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#47 ·
Don16 said:
Can you play audio direct from PCM(DAB for example) whilst also using say carplay or AA at the same time?

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Yes you can do that but you lose the seamlessness of it all. It’d mean having to pull out my phone to change some or skip podcast etc, rather than just using the Spotify or music app within CarPlay. So I’d rather do something with the hardware that would allow me to maintain decent audio quality through CarPlay. My short term fix has been to turn the base down on the equaliser as that seems to cause a lot of the distortion
 
#48 ·
Just installed the carplay from Sinairyu from aliexpress. What a royal PITA. I have installed carplay on like 5 cars in my life and this one is definitely the most time consuming. Between installation and figuring out where to put the box it took me like 10-12 hours I guess. I ended up removing the glovebox and attaching the box above it to make it clean.

But despite this being a royal PITA the result is well worth it and it works flawless (not to jinx). And what's more important - the steering wheel button works to skip track. What happens is when I turn the car on the carplay connects right away and then the phone connects via PCM bluetooth. This way I have carplay on the carplay sceen with maps and I have music from itunes on the dash screen. (or on carplay if not in use).

So although it's a PITA it's the best non-OEM carplay integration I've ever seen and I will take PCM 3.1 carplay with ability to skip tracks from the steering wheel vs PCM 4.0+ carplay where I can't skip tracks. I also love that I can see the music track on the dashboard screen and have the radio to show maps in full screen mode. Amazing!

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#49 ·
ChimpSafari said:
Yes you can do that but you lose the seamlessness of it all. It’d mean having to pull out my phone to change some or skip podcast etc, rather than just using the Spotify or music app within CarPlay. So I’d rather do something with the hardware that would allow me to maintain decent audio quality through CarPlay. My short term fix has been to turn the base down on the equaliser as that seems to cause a lot of the distortion
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This is not true with my carplay. See post above.
 
#50 ·
Don16 said:
Can you play audio direct from PCM(DAB for example) whilst also using say carplay or AA at the same time?

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That works with carplay from Sinairyu factory from aliexpress. I only tried bluetooth but I expect it works the same way with other options. Let me know if there is any specific scenario you can test and I can give it a shot.
 
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#53 ·
Opt1k said:
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That sounds like a great setup. Do you by any chance have a picture of the box for the brains part of the unit? I’d like to see what the connections look like as I might try it if I can swap it out easily with the joyeauto box.

also with the phone connected via PCM Bluetooth, what audio channel is the car set to? Does Google maps/Waze still play sound?
 
#54 ·
ChimpSafari said:
That sounds like a great setup. Do you by any chance have a picture of the box for the brains part of the unit? I’d like to see what the connections look like as I might try it if I can swap it out easily with the joyeauto box.

also with the phone connected via PCM Bluetooth, what audio channel is the car set to? Does Google maps/Waze still play sound?
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I don't have pictures of the box. Looking at joyauto box connectors don't look like an easy swap. The car audio is set to BT AUX. This way I get the track name on the dashboard and can skip tracks with steering wheel while still being able to see maps+itunes on the PCM screen.

I don't know if google/waze have any sounds as I don't use them but I will test this next time I drive the car.
 
#55 ·
Opt1k said:
I don't have pictures of the box. Looking at joyauto box connectors don't look like an easy swap. The car audio is set to BT AUX. This way I get the track name on the dashboard and can skip tracks with steering wheel while still being able to see maps+itunes on the PCM screen.

I don't know if google/waze have any sounds as I don't use them but I will test this next time I drive the car.
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And you are certain you can have DAB audio and Waze from carplay at same time? Any photos of Sony info in little screen?

They just need to do following:
1. Get waze displaying in little nav screen.
2. Some how intergrate with factory microphone rather than having to use the external one.
3. Improve audio quality from carplay or AA (few users complained of audio music from unit being rubbish)

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#56 ·
I haven't tried the track skip from the steering wheel on my Joyeauto install (2016 Macan S), but I was disappointed the phone button on the steering wheel does not invoke Siri - instead it brings up the phone book from the iPhone connected via Bluetooth. The Phone button on the PCM unit, does bring up Siri.
 
#57 ·
Don16 said:
And you are certain you can have DAB audio and Waze from carplay at same time? Any photos of Sony info in little screen?

They just need to do following:
1. Get waze displaying in little nav screen.
2. Some how intergrate with factory microphone rather than having to use the external one.
3. Improve audio quality from carplay or AA (few users complained of audio music from unit being rubbish)

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What is DAB audio?
 
#58 ·
Just did a few tests. Holding phone button on the steering wheel brings up siri. I am not sure if waze/google directions work but I hear the sound of voice input, didn't go anywhere so can't confirm that directions work but that is not 100%.

The volume button pauses/resumes itunes music and next track skips. I can listen to this via AUX or via AUX BT. AUX BT seem to be better quality so I use this one.

I can also switch to sirius XM (it's inactive for me) and carplay stays. Here are a few pictures.

JUKEBOX input doesn't work together with carplay and switches back and forth.

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