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It would seem to me that the partnership has not always worked, and that there are a lot of disgruntled Boxster and Cayman owners who ticked that particular option box (Bose sub stuffing -)?
This is something I can speak about. When the Cayman came out, some people who were not "sports car" people bought the coupe because they didn't have to deal with the rag top. It was also strange that the coupe cost more than the ragtop, which is not normal.

If you careful read where some of the complaints came from, they came from owners of more "luxury" "sports cars", like a MB (I forget all the models). They went into a Cayman and found two faults:

1. The ride was way to harsh. They could actually feel the road.

2. They couldn't hear the stereo over the engine.

There was no ipod connect and the cup holders are sort of joke or afterthoughts. After all, sports cars don't need cup holders. You can't hold a drink while going around the twisties.

What they didnt get was that the whole point of a sports car is the driving experience. You FEEL the road, you LISTEN to the engine. The only music you need is to drive on a windy road, roll down the window, and become one with a car.

I think some who complained really wanted an appliance, got discouraged, and move on to something more "luxurious". They might not have really understood what a Porsche was all about. For example, the complaints about the lack of an ipod connection were numerous.

So, I wouldn't put to much stock in Bose complaints coming from boxster and cayman owners. For the Macan, this might be different. As a crossover SUV, owners might listen to the stereo more than in a sports car. I suspect, but don't know, that the engine sounds will be much more muted. Much bigger cabin air space, farther from engine.

You got to remember that boxster/cayman owners have the engine right behind their ear, and on the cam it just sings. No need for music. ;)

The Macan is a totally different concept. I would not compare the experiences between the two.
 
just came back from an audio test...
first listened to the bose in a panamera - not so bad at all - pretty good actually !
then listened to burmester in 991 turbo s - now that was just crazy !!!! pretty big difference with bose ... big enough that i ticked the box ;)
 
just came back from an audio test...
first listened to the bose in a panamera - not so bad at all - pretty good actually !
then listened to burmester in 991 turbo s - now that was just crazy !!!! pretty big difference with bose ... big enough that i ticked the box ;)
I listened to both too. If you value car audio and sound quality, the Brumester is a worthy upgrade. I'm sold.
 
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Oh man. So many different opinions here messing with my head. LOL. My order has the Bose system. I like that it comes with a subwoofer in the trunk as opposed to the standard system. I havent actually heard the system, just went off the brand name. I guess I'll have to swing by the dealer and listen for myself. I like good quality sound but the Brumester system is too expensive.

My current car is an Acura RDX with the ELS system, and I'm quite content with it. If the Bose system sounds about the same then I'll be happy.
 
The Bose sounds good really ! It was pretty mediocre on older models (997) but they have improved it a lot. If I had not heard the Burmester I would have been happy with Bose.
It's just that Burmester is just outstanding ... never heard such good sound not even at home with Naim system...
 
Oh man. So many different opinions here messing with my head. LOL. My order has the Bose system. I like that it comes with a subwoofer in the trunk as opposed to the standard system. I havent actually heard the system, just went off the brand name. I guess I'll have to swing by the dealer and listen for myself. I like good quality sound but the Brumester system is too expensive.

My current car is an Acura RDX with the ELS system, and I'm quite content with it. If the Bose system sounds about the same then I'll be happy.
My wife's ELS in an MDX sounds fantastic (& only 435 watts, I think)
 
Oh man. So many different opinions here messing with my head. LOL. My order has the Bose system. I like that it comes with a subwoofer in the trunk as opposed to the standard system. I havent actually heard the system, just went off the brand name. I guess I'll have to swing by the dealer and listen for myself. I like good quality sound but the Brumester system is too expensive.

My current car is an Acura RDX with the ELS system, and I'm quite content with it. If the Bose system sounds about the same then I'll be happy.
well, if you won't upgrade to the Brumester, don't do a sound test against the Bose. It'll make you want to drop the extra cash! The Bose has very boomy, muddled base with a flat top end compared to the Brumester.
 
well, if you won't upgrade to the Brumester, don't do a sound test against the Bose. It'll make you want to drop the extra cash! The Bose has very boomy, muddled base with a flat top end compared to the Brumester.
How about going with the base 235 W system instead, save some money and don't have listen to the muddled base. :)
 
Oh man. So many different opinions here messing with my head. LOL. My order has the Bose system. I like that it comes with a subwoofer in the trunk as opposed to the standard system. I havent actually heard the system, just went off the brand name. I guess I'll have to swing by the dealer and listen for myself. I like good quality sound but the Brumester system is too expensive.

My current car is an Acura RDX with the ELS system, and I'm quite content with it. If the Bose system sounds about the same then I'll be happy.
Our Acura RDX has the ELS system and our Cayman SBE has the Bose system. We can mitigate the bass boom in the Bose system by turning down the bass, but it has nowhere near the clarity of the Acura ELS system. We listen to Magneplanar 3's at home (audiophile with fading old age ears).
 
How about going with the base 235 W system instead, save some money and don't have listen to the muddled base. :)
How about I just pay the extra money for the better system? :)
 
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Is the Burnmeister really worth the substantial cost? I know that in BMW models, they have the Harman Kardon as an upgrade - well worth it and in some of the newer models (6 series) they are now offering B&O sound, but at similar costs to the Burnmeister.

Advice on whether the upgrade is something that will be appreciated for an audiophile with a passion for driving? I would go with base system otherwise as I don't feel the Bose will be good enough to capture my hard earned dollars.
 
Is the Burnmeister really worth the substantial cost? I know that in BMW models, they have the Harman Kardon as an upgrade - well worth it and in some of the newer models (6 series) they are now offering B&O sound, but at similar costs to the Burnmeister.

Advice on whether the upgrade is something that will be appreciated for an audiophile with a passion for driving? I would go with base system otherwise as I don't feel the Bose will be good enough to capture my hard earned dollars.
Go to the nearest Porsche dealership and compare the systems. They'll have a vehicle with it. Try to compare similar models/soundstage if possible, as sound can vary greatly between vehicles. Whether it is worth the upgrade is for you to decide. What option is important for someone is not for others. Me, I just think very option had value and thus can't stop ticking those boxes! :)
 
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Go to the nearest Porsche dealership and compare the systems. They'll have a vehicle with it. Try to compare similar models/soundstage if possible, as sound can vary greatly between vehicles. Whether it is worth the upgrade is for you to decide. What option is important for someone is not for others. Me, I just think very option had value and thus can't stop ticking those boxes! :)
I am having the same issue. I can't stop clicking boxes, but want to keep the build within a reasonable budget. Only trying to narrow down to options that I feel are worthwhile....I am not worried about resale, just my personal happiness.
 
want to keep the build within a reasonable budget. Only trying to narrow down to options that I feel are worthwhile....I am not worried about resale, just my personal happiness.
I think everyone is trying to do the same. I ticked all the performace options, but sticking with the base CDR+ & not getting the Sat Nav either. I am getting those SS skid plates though. :p
 
I think everyone is trying to do the same. I ticked all the performace options, but sticking with the base CDR+ & not getting the Sat Nav either. I am getting those SS skid plates though. :p
You getting black? If I go black it's going to be hard to turn the SS skid plates down. They look amazing on black.
 
I was just at the dealer checking out the Bose System on the Cayenne. They didnt have any Burmester systems on the lot.

So stepping out of my Acura with the ELS system and stepping into the Porsche I right away noticed the Bose had a more drowned out sound. Then my dealer turned on the surround sound, and the system was better with sound coming at me from everywhere. I was a little disappointed that the audio settings are very limited (bass, trebble, fade, balance). If it was more customizable (i.e. each speaker zone having it's own adjustments like ELS) the Bose system could really shine I think.

All in all Bose is not bad. I think I can live with it.
 
I can't Judge on the Burmeister system, but for my taste the Bose is doing very well in a 987S and 991 4Scab... at least for vocal/acoustic music. Lots of details can be heard. It was a no brainer to order the bose for the Macan.
My settings: surround on, autopilot off, slightly faded to the back, trebble +1 and base +2 or 3.
 
Similar settings to mine. It always sounds great. I think Autopilot being turned off is key.
AudioPilot you mean :) turning that off also turns off the speed-dependent volume
 
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