Four or five months after the 2019...I doubt it. How about sometime early Sprig 2020.

 

The 2015 was introduced May 2014.
IMO the refresh, released around May (?), should be a 2020.
Who's going to buy a 2019 when year is half over???
Not me.

 

2015 was released in Dec, 13. US launch in 5/14. Porsche releases do not revolve around US releases. US law is the model year must include the year sold so 2015 cars, in the US, had to be sold in 2015.

Who? People will buy a new 2018 car in Aug when new releases come in Sept, the traditional month for 2019 models, because dealers are dumping inventory and they get big discounts.

Cash up front, money today, barring deflation, is always worth more than money tomorrow. Who knows the future? The magic of present value.

A bird in the hand ... and all that old sayings.

 

The short answer is that nobody outside of Porsche HQ knows the answer to this. But given the late arrival of the 2019 facelift here in the U.S., it is reasonable to assume that 2019 will be a short model year run. I expect 2020s will probably get back on schedule and be available from Feb 2020 or thereabouts. the same thing happened with the 991.2 911s in 2016, the facelift was a really short run of cars for about 5 months and then the 2017s came out. this whole model year game is immaterial to anyone leasing but to the guys that buy and hold the cars for 5 or 6 years, it makes a difference in values down the road.

 

this whole model year game is immaterial to anyone leasing but to the guys that buy and hold the cars for 5 or 6 years, it makes a difference in values down the road.

Not really, unless there are significant changes between the two model years.

For example, look at the difference between the current trade in value of a 2013 versus 2014 base Cayenne, both with 60,000 miles. Less than $3500 difference. Most or all of that difference would've been offset by the difference in the original selling price when a dealer was trying to sell the leftover versus the current model year.

 

Ok, so there is a $3500 price difference btwn the 2013 and 2014 with the same mileage. Thanks for proving my point, I guess. And your rationale that this differential will be made up for by the fact that dealers will heavily discount the older cars does not apply to this situation. The Macan has been on hold for the U.S. for months now with no new inventory. Dealers are using that and the fact that this is the "new" car to offer paltry discounts. People ordered 2018s with easy 8% discounts and now dealers are trying to hold to MSRP or tiny discounts on the new cars. When Porsche cars are facelifted, the first buyers of the new cars pay a premium for the privilege.

 

Ok, so there is a $3500 price difference btwn the 2013 and 2014 with tjyhe same mileage. Thanks for proving my point, I guess. And your rationale that this differential will be made up for by the fact that dealers will heavily discount the older cars does not apply to this situation. The Macan has been on hold for the U.S. for months now with no new inventory. Dealers are using that and the fact that this is the "new" car to offer paltry discounts. People ordered 2018s with easy 8% discounts and now dealers are trying to hold to MSRP or tiny discounts on the new cars. When Porsche cars are facelifted, the first buyers of the new cars pay a premium for the privilege.

Sorry, but I clearly show your point to be incorrect.

As I showed, when you get five or six years out there is not that big a difference between the value of one model year to the next unless there were significant changes from one model year to the other. And the minor $3500 difference can be mostly if not fully offset when purchasing by the discounts available on leftovers once the new model year is available.

Not sure why you are referring to the current situation as that has nothing to do with what the OP was asking about. He asked about the possibility of waiting for a 2020 car versus a 2019. You don't think that once the 2020 units are available that you won't be able to buy a leftover 2019 unit for several thousand dollars less versus a 2020 on the same day?

 

Ok Chris, you win. There is no difference 5 years down the road in the value of a 2019 vs. a 2020. You are totally right.

 

Chris never said that there was no difference in the value. The point is that the difference is minor, and that most if not all of it can often be offset by the savings when you purchase a leftover.

Of course it all depends on how much you were actually able to save when buying the left over. No doubt someone is going to chime in and claim that their dealer is not willing to discount leftovers at all. I would suggest that most of the time if a dealer takes that position he’s going to be sitting on those leftovers for a while assuming that the following model year is available.

I looked up the trade-in value of a 2015 and 2016 Macan S with no options, both with 15,000 miles on the clock. Only about a $4000 difference in value.

 

As to what the OP was driving at, I have no idea. I don't know if he is going to try to buy a leftover 2019 lot car in some ugly color combo to save $2000 or if he is going to order a fully optioned 2020. Nobody knows what he was really getting at, including you. I just made a point about residual values 5 or 6 years down the road, which you expertly disproved. I'm not sure what the point is anymore.

 

Hi all - first post. Do not want to sound negative, but the comment that dealers are not discounting 2019 Macan was not true in my case. I got a 5% discount without any haggling. I gave my deposit about two weeks ago.

 

Welcome to the forum, JimPorsche1 -- tell us about what model, color, options &c you ordered. When can you expect to take delivery?

 

$3500 on a base Cayenne, $4000 on a base Macan. I guess at this point it is a philosophical debate as to what constitutes a "minor" cost savings and to what lengths one is willing to go to settle for a leftover lot car. I can guarantee you that the guy who bought the 2015 Macan S would not have saved $4000 vs. the guy who bought that 2016 in your example. 2015 Macan Ss were so tight that dealers were getting MSRP for almost the whole model year.

 

Sure, but those days are long over. Does anyone seriously expect that there will be that tight a supply of 2019 Macans when the factory starts building the 2020s?

 

Like Dan said, it all depends on the deal for the leftover.

I've seen so many buyers who just won't consider a leftover because in their mind it's not a brand new car even though it may be nearly identical to one, and/or they think it's a poor financial move, even though they really did not take the time to compare projected resale values.

So many buyers want to show their friends they have "the latest and the greatest" versus "hey, look at my new one year old car" and are looking for any excuse to justify not buying the leftover.

Yeah, everything being equal I would prefer to order my new car to my exact spec (especially when it comes to a Porsche where so many option combinations are possible), but at some price point the leftover (again, assuming there have been only minor changes from year to year) starts to look more and more attractive, especially if it's equipped with most if not all the options you want.

That's why I canceled my factory build when I found the leftover I bought.

 

Good thread guys. Looks like my best bet is to wait to order a 2020 later this year and take delivery a year from now. Turbo will be just over 50k miles and would work out perfectly

 

Is there any news about the 2020 Macan S?

Hi all,

First time poster here, I am considering getting a Macan S but debating if I should wait for a bit and get the 2020 model, problem is I rarely see any news or discussion abt the 2020 model, is there any expected release date? I live in Canada if that makes a difference.

Thanks

 

Hi all,

First time poster here, I am considering getting a Macan S but debating if I should wait for a bit and get the 2020 model, problem is I rarely see any news or discussion abt the 2020 model, is there any expected release date? I live in Canada if that makes a difference.

Thanks

Currently have 3 dealers @ LA looking to match my build. If they can't find/bring one in at the right price I will custom order, which all 3 dealers told me would be a 2020, deliver around November and be $800-$1k more vs. the 2019's.

 

base price will just keep on going up (probably another $1000 - $1500). Other than that, there should be no material changes. The model itself is already updated just this year.

 

In Canada, price of 2020 Macan S goes up by $600 CAD. I ordered in early July and dealer said delivery date would be Nov.

 

I ordered a 2020 Macan S in May. My build is complete and the car is in Germany and on its way to Rhode Island soon. On schedule as planned. I expect delivery in August. I live in NYC. Will keep you posted.

 

Just placed my order yesterday. Dealer had an allocation for an August build.

The MY2020 S is $800 more than the 2019 in the US. No changes that we could see. There is a new ~$3,500 brake option though (forget the name but it is not the ceramic brakes - was something else.) They look HUGE. Also option to make brake calipers match exterior color.

 

@cmb

I still see the build year to be MY2019 if I customize new Macan S.

Where did you find those options?

 

@ranavalsa it was on the SA’s machine through their portal that allows them to modify allocated builds. The public configuratior has not been updated for the 2020s yet - it is still MY2019.

 

My 2020 Macan S has left Emden and I expect to receive delivery by the end of this month.

 

Hi Splatwd,
My 2020 Macan S has been waiting in Emden since mid June. What’s the name of the vessel carrying your car? My car maybe on it too. What’s the latest information on your delivery? I hope I will get an update from my SA soon.

 

Expecting an 8/30 dealer inventory date as per most recent information provided by my S.A. (Hopefully sooner)/

She is on the "Bishu Highway".

Hi Splatwd,
My 2020 Macan S has been waiting in Emden since mid June. What’s the name of the vessel carrying your car? My car maybe on it too. What’s the latest information on your delivery? I hope I will get an update from my SA soon.

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My 2020 is on Bishu also. She made it out in the Atlantic recently. Tracking to Houston port. Excited ??? 8/30 sounds about right for inventory for me too

 

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My 2020 is on Bishu also. She made it out in the Atlantic recently. Tracking to Houston port. Excited ??? 8/30 sounds about right for inventory for me too

Just confirmed LA PEC delivery on September 17.

 

Has the EPA and CARB certified the 2020 Porsche already? For NY and other 12 states are under CARB and that is where the delay will occur.

John

 

wait for 2020
got my 16 S in October of 15 by by February 16 the 17's were out

 

EPA #s for the 2020's are officially up, both BASE and S models. See link:

https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSe...on=noform&path=1&year1=2020&year2=2020&make=Porsche&baseModel=Macan&srchtyp=ymm


not sure about CARB but I am in Florida so CARB should not affect me.

 

not sure about CARB but I am in Florida so CARB should not affect me.[/quote]

2020 Macan base has been CARB certified dated July 29. Posted on 8/5. www3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/pcldtmdv/2020/porsche_ldt_a0190269_2d0_u3-70.pdf

 

Anyone heard anything regarding estimated 2020 delivery?

 

The latest info I heard the release date for 2020 is September 16.

 

In other threads, I heard 2 folks got their 2020 Macan’s delivered to dealer & they are ready to be delivered to customer as early as September 9th (Monday)