^^^ pretty much what I have on my 2015 S.

on a few occasions driving on long uphill freeway stretches in 100F weather it goes up to 220F range.

 

My oil temp during two 600 mile drives. Day after day was 209,

 

Yeah after seeing y'alls data points im starting to think something is up. Maybe a cooler isnt working correctly or im really putting that oil through some abuse that im unaware of. I drive like grandpa so im not sure why this is happening lol.

 

Typical 70-80mph highway for me is 205 - 215 in the southeast on a 3.6 engine in comfort mode. Drops to 199-205 in sport.

 

Mine comes up to about 208 and sits there. 22 mile commute to office, 1/2 country roads at 50 and other half freeway at 70+. Ours is a 2018 S

 

Hi I have a base macan, doesn't know If my answer helps.
When I was doing long distance cruising, the active shutters are uaually closed to achieve better drag coefficient, my oil temerature would go up to 217-229F.
And the 229F is the max I have ever seen, even after I did 30min spirit driving in the mountain (Spring, 52F outside).

And My another experience is driving on a track at Porsche Experience Center with base macan(more than 86F outside), after 5 laps with Sport plus setting, the oil temperature was never over 226F

 

I have base 4 cylinder turbo macan

I run about 209 degrees oil temp. Highway speeds. Just travelled from Texas to Illinois. 500 miles each for two days. 209

russ

 

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find anything using the search function.

The manual says to drive at low engine speeds when it is cold. At what oil temp can I start pushing the engine?

 

Generally, 175 is about right, seem to be standard. I wouldn't go lower. Thats oil, not water. During break-in Keep it below 4K for 2K miles. Vary the RPMS, and don't go above 4K ever until engine is at temp, about 175. For break in , read this article. Many, many people don't understand break in.

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Thanks!

 

As most who drive Macan's know, it can take 15 minutes for the oil to heat up to 175F. I asked my service advisor (who races Porsches) about oil temperature. He knows I'm not an aggressive driver and his response was...With the modern synthetic oils, just give it a couple of minutes and then don't worry...you're not going to hurt anything. Translated, that means keep it below about 5K RPM and don't worry. (note: I live in Tampa area so I'm not dealing with freezing conditions). Clearly, with natural oil you need to care more about oil temperature....and I've always been careful to be gentle until the oil hits 175/180....but now, not so much.

 

FWIW, I've always gone by 185F...

 

As ghstudio said " it can take 15 minutes for the oil to heat up to 175F", I watch my oil temp closely and until it hits 180 I keep the RPMs below 4K. This does time some time (or distance from the house).

Then when I get into my WRX, she gets up to temp maybe half the time. Boy do I like having an oil temp gauge!

I used to go by the coolant temp (that's all that was available on a '76 Corona, '79 Celica, ...)

 

So if you’ve ran your car up to temp and let’s say you park it for an hour. I did that today and once I started the car, the oil temp was already around 175ish. Does that mean I’m basically good to push it hard with no “warm up” needed?

 

Rather than exact temperature, lately l’ve just gone by time. About 10 minutes after I’ve started the car, I’ll just go ahead and push it. I’ve noticed the rate at which the temperature rises is not always consistent. After 10 minutes, usually I’m close to 180 but sometimes I’m only around 150 but I don’t sweat it.

 

I started noticing a few months ago that when driving on the highway over a long distance, if I put the Macan into
Sport+ the oil temperature drops by about 20F and remains at the newer setting. If I then disengage Sport+, the oil
temperature will then climb back up to its "normal" 217F level.

It seems as though either the oil pump runs more aggressively in Sport+ or there's some oil cooler involved (somewhere?)
allowing the temperature drop. Or some s/w is changing the display electrically without any real change in temperature? (nah!)


Anyone have a definitive explanation?

TIA

(no, my name's not Tia...)

 

I started noticing a few months ago that when driving on the highway over a long distance, if I put the Macan into
Sport+ the oil temperature drops by about 20F and remains at the newer setting
Anyone have a definitive explanation?

Normal, 911 does it too. Sports is meant to emulate racing. If tracking you don't run in normal mode. Engine prep for constant acceleration, WOT. Best answer I could find is from Pedro. Although talking Boxster/Cayman, the other cars exhibit the same behavior.

You might also want to watch your voltmeter. In normal mode, the alternator will rise and fall with braking doing some form of regenerative braking to charge the battery. In sport, its ALWAYS charging much higher.

One is "normal", the other is "racing" best explanation I got.

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‘18 Turbo w/58k: 210.

 

Normal driving 200-215, when towing 230-240.

 

212F is what oil temperature should be in ideal conditions. This is the temperature that water boils, therefore any moisture in the crankcase will boil off.

My engine sounds quieter, smoother above 180F. So I keep the RPMs low until it gets there. The highest I've seen, on the highway out West, ambient temperature above 100F and at 85mph or more, was about 235F.

I live at elevation 4900 and drive down about 1000 vertical feet before I get to a highway. Then down hill in any direction. During summer conditions (ambient in the 70's) it may take 20 or more miles to get to 212F. After a cool down and going back up hill, the engine gets to 212F in just a few minutes. This clearly indicates that oil temperature rise rate is a function of load.

 

Normal, 911 does it too. Sports is meant to emulate racing. If tracking you don't run in normal mode. Engine prep for constant acceleration, WOT. Best answer I could find is from Pedro. Although talking Boxster/Cayman, the other cars exhibit the same behavior.

You might also want to watch your voltmeter. In normal mode, the alternator will rise and fall with braking doing some form of regenerative braking to charge the battery. In sport, its ALWAYS charging much higher.

One is "normal", the other is "racing" best explanation I got.

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So, the moral of the story is to run in Sport or Sport Plus (if you have it) when running “hard”?

Today my oil hit 239 after a spirited run on the highway. It dropped to 214 to 217 when mellow highway driving ensued.

That said, about 20 years ago I got a letter from BMW about my 740 that I needed to get my car serviced because the thermostat was set too low. The 740s were experiencing bore scoring because the “high sulfur content of fuels” left crystals behind. The solution was to use a thermostat that allowed the engine to run at higher temperatures.

So, lower or higher temperatures are best with a ‘23 Macan running on Mobil 1 and good fuel these days?

 

So, the moral of the story is to run in Sport or Sport Plus (if you have it) when running “hard”?

Today my oil hit 239 after a spirited run on the highway. It dropped to 214 to 217 when mellow highway driving ensued.

That said, about 20 years ago I got a letter from BMW about my 740 that I needed to get my car serviced because the thermostat was set too low. The 740s were experiencing bore scoring because the “high sulfur content of fuels” left crystals behind. The solution was to use a thermostat that allowed the engine to run at higher temperatures.

So, lower or higher temperatures are best with a ‘23 Macan running on Mobil 1 and good fuel these days?

Yes but you’re also missing out on a lot of performance (and fun) if you’re trying to run “hard” in economy mode.

 

From Motor Trend
For a dual-purpose car, engine oil needs to be at least 220 degrees F to burn off all the deposits and accumulated water vapor. For every pound of fuel burned in an engine, the combustion process also generates a pound of water! If engine sump temperatures rarely exceed 212 degrees (water's boiling point), the water will mix with sulfur (another combustion byproduct) and create acids that can eventually damage bearings. As for ultimate power potential, the general consensus among most racers is that hot oil and cool water make more power in most engines. Cold engine oil causes excessive frictional drag on the bearings and cylinder walls. A quality conventional motor oil will tolerate oil sump temperatures up to 250 degrees, but starts breaking down over 275 degrees. The traditional approach is to try to hold oil temperatures between 230 and 260 degrees. Even on a short-duration, drag-only combo where oil is frequently changed, you would not want to routinely see oil temps under 200 degrees.

 

In my 20 GTS the oil temp sits around 220° once fully warmed up. If I start pushing it hard it’ll get above 230°. Highest I’ve seen it was 237° when pushing it pretty hard for an extended period of time in hot weather.

 

Sweetness,
True but I really don’t know the difference if I’m going fairly consistent speeds and most of the time I have a fun squasher in the copilot’s seat. Then the grief tax is a hefty penalty. 😉

 

If you’re just cruising then you aren’t coming anywhere near running it “hard” so you have nothing to worry about 😀

 

2015 Macan s. Sydney driven. Oil temp gets to 107 c max

 

2017 base daily driver. Oil temp is @ 214*f - 220*f around town and open highway. Highway drive with traffic @ 229* f ... Side note -- if I have been driving on the highway and hit the N.Y. stop and go traffic I usually see the 229*f as the turbo has to expend more energy when it blows off and has to spool again every other minute.

 

'15 Turbo, normal drive mode: ambient 34-80F, oil temp 212-216F