I have two years left on my warranty otherwise I would use Cobb. I see Vector has a newer product for sale that ups hp and tq considerably. Has anyone used this yet? Any thoughts on this set up? I see it is on flatsixmotorsports for 729$. Any experience with this or piggybacking in general appreciated.
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I think the bluetooth allows you to change the mode of the operation without getting under the hood. (Could be wrong).
Drive booster looks interesting
Drive booster looks interesting
Jon,
Does your Vector kit for the 17 Macan GTS come with the Bluetooth option?
And can you tell me what the Bluetooth option does for the end-user?
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We don't carry them but upon special request, we can source them that way.
Been running the Vector on my '17 S for a month. Tried 2 settings so far: Sport 4 (default setting) and Sport 6. Note that I'm calling 1 as lowest in mode and 7 as highest (7 settings per mode). Sport 6 is what the Flat6 said was their best setting in testing -- though they call it Sport 2 (With 1 being highest I guess?) The lights to indicate setting are a bit wonky as there are only 4 LEDs for 7 settings. and the lights don't exactly light in order. Kind of confusing...
Note: I drive in Sport mode, 93 gas, no other mods, and always warm-up the car until idle settles (except for one test--see warning below).
With the Vector in both settings, the Macan S performed more like I expected it to vs stock. Low-end shifting (up and down) felt noticeably smoother and more enjoyable around town. Sound on warm-up idle is a bit muted with the Vector for some reason, but haven't noticed any sound difference when driving. The problem: The shifts between 2-3 and 3-4 are clunky when punching it. It definitely has more acceleration, feels about 50HP to me? But the shift drops are significant and I can hear the wastegate (?). I've recently put in the plug to bring it back to stock and it is def not as fast, low-end slow shifting is not as smooth, but shifting is smoother at higher revs.
The jury is still out for me. I need to test other settings because the clunky shifting is a no-go for me. If I can't find a good balance, I'll sell it.
One warning: Make sure to let the car warm-up. Shifting and wastegate noise seems far more pronounced when cold. I tried this once to test and won't be repeating!
Installation was a bit cumbersome. Took me about 40 min, but most of that time was spent trying to get the plugs free from the stock sensors -- the Cam sensor was a pain -- and prob 15 min finding good places to ziptie the cables to avoid heat and allow the engine cover to reseat properly (LOTS OF CABLING!). I think I used 10 zipties, and they supplied 8 in the kit?
My biggest concern is cutting all those zipties and reinstalling if the car ever needs a service visit. Not looking forward to that! If you can find a suitable tie that is removable, please let me know!
I've been running the Vector in my 18' Macan GTS for a few weeks and got the same clunky shifts every now and then, but only with the unit in the absolute highest setting (Power 3) and mainly at low speeds, not when punching it. At WOT (wide open throttle) I had no issue with the gear changes, just slow speed during passive driving. I backed it down to the lowest Power setting (Power 1? the LED's are indeed confusing) and have had good results so far. I use 94 octane (10% ethanol) and no other performance mods other than a Hike It-X9 throttle controller.
1) Power
2) Sport
3) Economy
4) Standard (OEM)
For me, the Vector was a no-brainer over the COBB as I didn't want to flash the ECU and the Halloween sale pricing was too good to pass up; 20% off for a total of $495 USD all in w taxes shipped to Canada, essentially 1/3 of the more customizable COBB V3. I've used BMS piggyback tuning for past Mercedes/Audi and APR and GIAC for other Porsche's and Audi's and am as pleased with this as any.
1) Power
2) Sport
3) Economy
4) Standard (OEM)
For me, the Vector was a no-brainer over the COBB as I didn't want to flash the ECU and the Halloween sale pricing was too good to pass up; 20% off for a total of $495 USD all in w taxes shipped to Canada, essentially 1/3 of the more customizable COBB V3. I've used BMS piggyback tuning for past Mercedes/Audi and APR and GIAC for other Porsche's and Audi's and am as pleased with this as any.
Hi Jon,
I bought a Vector piggyback for my 2021 Macan S form F6 and the install was very easy. I notice the power increase and I’m happy with how simple it is to install/uninstall. If you wouldn’t mind, i have a few questions and thought I would post here for the benefit of the community.
Where do you suggest anchoring the Vector box? I have it zip tied to the strut bar behind the right side behind the ecu.
The Vector install instructions say to plug into the cam sensor on the left by the air box (slave/secondary sensor ?) have you experimented with plugging into the cam sensor on the right (primary sensor ?) ? A YouTube for the VR tuning box on the Macan S suggested that improved the results. I’m not sure which plug is the cam sensor plug on the right side, so I haven’t messed with it.
After using the Vector boxes on the 95B.2 S, have you found a sweet spot for the adjustment? In power mode, LED 1, I got a CEL warning, so I shut off and changed to sport mode, LED 2, and drove around in that just fine. Have you gone through the +/- settings to find the best sport w/o getting a warning?
thank you
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I'm reading the Vector + Pedal Commander is a really good combo but with these 2 combined isn't it ~$1100 which is only a couple hundred off the Cobb tuner (~$1300 )
With the Cobb tuner you flash the ecu. Are you NOT able to flash back to stock?
Thanks
With the Cobb tuner you flash the ecu. Are you NOT able to flash back to stock?
Thanks
I had the Pedal Commander on my 2016 S and LOVED it. I added a Vector piggyback, and though the horsepower increase was definitely noticeable, I could never get a setting where the shifting was good. The power and acceleration were intoxicating, as it made my S as fast if not a bit faster than a stock Macan Turbo, but the shifts were way too harsh, so I got rid of it.
I was fortunate enough to trade up to a 2020 GTS, and have missed neither the Pedal Commander nor the Vector box.
I was fortunate enough to trade up to a 2020 GTS, and have missed neither the Pedal Commander nor the Vector box.
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Trying to figure out what your question is. If you are talking about the Cobb you can flash back before any trip to the dealer. This precludes any warranty questions.
Apologies. If I’d looked more thoroughly I’d have seen all the answers I need already published. I’ll install on my 2027 Turbo this weekend.
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Curious if anyone has experienced any better results in the shifting department lately. Perhaps they have updated the tune to address it? I have sent them an email asking if they have made adjustments to address the issue. Also, how does Sport mode effect the operation? Is tune the same in both modes or does Sport mode activate a more aggressive tune? Thanks
I have just installed the vector piggyback tuner on my 2018 macan S.
the shifting issue that everyone is talking about is still there. It’s almost like the car double shifts at low speed and rpm. Kind of took me by suprise. Reduced the tune and it went away. I would really like to see some actual dyno numbers for the performance numbers vector claims. All in all great experience so far with the vector tuner easy to install. Bluetooth makes for easy adjustment in the vehicle while you’re driving.
highly recommended this product as it’s easily removable and doesn’t affect your ECU.
the shifting issue that everyone is talking about is still there. It’s almost like the car double shifts at low speed and rpm. Kind of took me by suprise. Reduced the tune and it went away. I would really like to see some actual dyno numbers for the performance numbers vector claims. All in all great experience so far with the vector tuner easy to install. Bluetooth makes for easy adjustment in the vehicle while you’re driving.
highly recommended this product as it’s easily removable and doesn’t affect your ECU.
I have just installed the vector piggyback tuner on my 2018 macan S.
the shifting issue that everyone is talking about is still there. It’s almost like the car double shifts at low speed and rpm. Kind of took me by suprise. Reduced the tune and it went away. I would really like to see some actual dyno numbers for the perfo
the shifting issue that everyone is talking about is still there. It’s almost like the car double shifts at low speed and rpm. Kind of took me by suprise. Reduced the tune and it went away. I would really like to see some actual dyno numbers for the perfo
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I had a 2019 Macan S, before my wife crashed in to a pole on our street. The car is okay (Wife is perfectly fine haha).
Anyways I had the Vector tuning pulled out before salvaging the vehicle. Its in perfect condition. I was unable to sell it on here because I don't remember my old login.
I got a 2022 Cayenne GTS now and haven't found any good forums to chat on.
If you're interested in the Vector. Im willing to let it go for cheap or it sits in the garage for a lifetime. Message me on and I can setup an ebay or whatever you feel safe with and refund policy. I think I bought the Vector unit for $1100 total.
Ill take $500.
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I love the ecu as there wasnt any other choice out there but im not putting just anything in my **** car lol.
Ive had an audi 2006, and all sorts of rides fixed up.I was comfortable with the Vector. Smooth ride even on the highest setting. I drove around like that all day with no issues.
on my 2002 Cayenne GTS i have the APR software upgrade.
Ive had an audi 2006, and all sorts of rides fixed up.I was comfortable with the Vector. Smooth ride even on the highest setting. I drove around like that all day with no issues.
on my 2002 Cayenne GTS i have the APR software upgrade.
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sorry man i have the DTE unit.
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