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Not a direct answer to your questions, but I like the Griot's Boars' Hair washing brush. Unlike a lot of washing gloves or cloths, dirt will not collect in the hairs and it does an excellent job of washing for me. It's biggest advantage is not filling up with grit that will scratch your paint.
 
Plenty of great feedback for OP already. I have a black Macan S. With a busy life I try and wash it once a week. Failing that I use the griots garage wash, love this stuff, it even smells good. Unless you have loads of time on your hands then be prepared for imperfection with a black car. I washed mine today, but had time and perfect conditions. It had rained heavily, stopped and was then overcast but didn't rain. The car washed and then dried superbly and it now sparkles. But it will not stay that way and dust etc will appear within a day or so. But even with some dust and dirt the black will sparkle from a certain angle and that is enough for me. But as I said, if you want low maintenance or you will get your knickers in a knot with every speck, piece of brush, bird s$&t or mosquitoes then get a different colour. My wife has a 2012 Toyota Highlander in white metallic pearl. I spent 3 hours using clay bar getting rid of the acid rain rust spots! My point, they all take work, but some more than others.
 
Just put an order in at Griot's website.

I'm not a detail freak and admittedly a bit lazy when it comes to keeping my cars perfectly clean. Hopefully these 'short cuts' won't ruin my car (picking it up tomorrow!), and will motivate me to keep it clean more often (God help me, it's Jet Black Metallic).

1. Spray-On Car Wash Kit + extra towels
2. Speed Shine Maintain Kit + extra towels
3. Ultimate Micro Fiber Car Duster
4. Travel Kit (just in case a bird poops on my car and I want to get it off fast)
 
Just put an order in at Griot's website.

I'm not a detail freak and admittedly a bit lazy when it comes to keeping my cars perfectly clean. Hopefully these 'short cuts' won't ruin my car (picking it up tomorrow!), and will motivate me to keep it clean more often (God help me, it's Jet Black Metallic).

1. Spray-On Car Wash Kit + extra towels
2. Speed Shine Maintain Kit + extra towels
3. Ultimate Micro Fiber Car Duster
4. Travel Kit (just in case a bird poops on my car and I want to get it off fast)
You need the add their Micro Fiber Wheel Wands, especially the Extra-Large one (they have three straight ones and three 45-degree ones)! :)
You will not believe how easy they make wheel or grill cleaning. The extra-large ones will soak up nearly an entire bucket of soapy water by the time you finish four large wheels - they make it easy to clean the rim all the way to inside edge.
 
All good stuff, I've ordered a bunch of things from sealant to black wax....


Sealant: Chemical Guys WAC_118_16 - JetSeal Anti-Corrosion Sealant and Paint Protectant (16 oz)
Amazon.com: Chemical Guys WAC_118_16 - JetSeal Anti-Corrosion Sealant and Paint Protectant (16 oz): Automotive


Wax: Chemical Guys WAC_300 - Pete's '53 Black Pearl Crystal Polymer White Carnuba Paste Wax (8 oz)
Amazon.com: Chemical Guys WAC_300 - Pete's '53 Black Pearl Crystal Polymer White Carnuba Paste Wax (8 oz): Automotive


Speedshine for in between jobs: [ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003V3V61K/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/ame]


Griots Bug and smudge
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IUE5OPO/ref=oh_details_o04_s01_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/ame]


California dust buster
Amazon.com: California Car Duster 62442 Standard Car Duster with Wooden Handle: Automotive


And a whole bunch of microfiber stuff, drying towels, wheel brushes, wheel brake dust spray etc etc.. the choices above came down to Amazon reviews as much as anything.


The dust buster I used before on a prior black Audi - found it useful for the windows and the back end which gets more dust build up, I guess the trick is not to be too aggressive and only use it for dry dust not muddy dirt that's there from a rain shower etc. I suspect that I'll do the sealant and waxing in a few weeks whenever the temperature falls a bit here in the Midwest.


One final thing I need is a good leather conditioner - I have red interior in full leather - needs to be easy to apply, and very neutral in smell and touch (who wants to risk that amazing new car smell!)
 
I'll be having a friend that's the most anal detailer I've ever known put Optimum OptiCoat (clear ceramic coating) on the car. I've had him do a black Mini I had that lived outside, my ex-wife's silver Range Rover Evoque, and my current silver Focus ST. I do the old fashioned clay, hand (or random orbital), wax (p21s) on my 993, but for the new daily driver it's gonna be OptiCoat all the way. Best paint protection I have ever seen. I need to ensure to tell the dealer when it arrives to leave it the **** alone and just deliver it to me as they take it off the truck. I cannot control what they do to it in Stuttgart after I drop it back off from my European Delivery driving, but once it gets here I don't want it touched until Brandon can obsess over it. He does an IronX decontamination process, then hand clay, then random orbital polish (his machine makes my Griots machine look like a child's toy), then OptiCoat. It's all about preparing the paint for whatever you are going to protect it with. I can't wait until he's done with it, because seeing him loving on the car will help make up for the 8-10 post-return-from-Germany delivery wait.

p.s. anyone in central NC contact me and I'll get you his contact info
 
I love black. Nothing better in the right conditions. Nothing worse than coming to realize that washing your car, (even using with reasonable care) causes most of the damage to your paint! Sorry, but it's true. You can help keep the damage minimal...using multiple buckets, blow dryers and microfiber, but all it takes is a few tiny, sharp, rock particles..hidden inside your wash mit, to wreck your black paint. I decided I wanted to drive this one, so I bought white! It'll still take some effort, but less than 1/4 the time is a reasonable estimate I believe. YMMV.
 
I love black. Nothing better in the right conditions. Nothing worse than coming to realize that washing your car, (even using with reasonable care) causes most of the damage to your paint! Sorry, but it's true. You can help keep the damage minimal...using multiple buckets, blow dryers and microfiber, but all it takes is a few tiny, sharp, rock particles..hidden inside your wash mit, to wreck your black paint. I decided I wanted to drive this one, so I bought white! It'll still take some effort, but less than 1/4 the time is a reasonable estimate I believe. YMMV.
Yep, your spot on, then again I spent 3 hours using clay bar to remove the little acid rain rust spots from my wife's white car!;)
 
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Don't EVER wash a car! The risk is too great that you will damage the paint!

The rational solution is to trade in once a month for a new one.
That's what I do. Makes sense no?

I've also become an advocate of the foam gun thing. Just love giving the car a bubble bath. None of that old fashioned way of washing a car. Just foam that baby up, let it soak, and watch the dirt just dissolve away.

Of course, we only do that for my wife's car. I just buy a new one every month.:)
 
That's what I do. Makes sense no?

I've also become an advocate of the foam gun thing. Just love giving the car a bubble bath. None of that old fashioned way of washing a car. Just foam that baby up, let it soak, and watch the dirt just dissolve away.

Of course, we only do that for my wife's car. I just buy a new one every month.:)
@grim Yeah, I can see how it might get cost prohibitive to replace 2 cars a month, so the foam bubble bath makes perfect sense.

You could consider alternating replacement cars and trying to survive a 60 day lifespan. But I believe the risk of driving a dirty car would go up exponentially.

Maybe if you also have that Modesta coating applied every replacement, you might just barely make it?

That is a decision I would personally not want to make.
 
I'll be having a friend that's the most anal detailer I've ever known put Optimum OptiCoat (clear ceramic coating) on the car. I've had him do a black Mini I had that lived outside, my ex-wife's silver Range Rover Evoque, and my current silver Focus ST. I do the old fashioned clay, hand (or random orbital), wax (p21s) on my 993, but for the new daily driver it's gonna be OptiCoat all the way. Best paint protection I have ever seen. I need to ensure to tell the dealer when it arrives to leave it the **** alone and just deliver it to me as they take it off the truck. I cannot control what they do to it in Stuttgart after I drop it back off from my European Delivery driving, but once it gets here I don't want it touched until Brandon can obsess over it. He does an IronX decontamination process, then hand clay, then random orbital polish (his machine makes my Griots machine look like a child's toy), then OptiCoat. It's all about preparing the paint for whatever you are going to protect it with. I can't wait until he's done with it, because seeing him loving on the car will help make up for the 8-10 post-return-from-Germany delivery wait.

p.s. anyone in central NC contact me and I'll get you his contact info
He said to post his website and contact info:
Ultimate Vehicle Protection: 2015 Porsche Macan Turbo Black |
 
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@grim Yeah, I can see how it might get cost prohibitive to replace 2 cars a month, so the foam bubble bath makes perfect sense.

You could consider alternating replacement cars and trying to survive a 60 day lifespan. But I believe the risk of driving a dirty car would go up exponentially.

Maybe if you also have that Modesta coating applied every replacement, you might just barely make it?

That is a decision I would personally not want to make.
Modesta, Opticoat, they are all the same. Many different names that all do the same thing but lack any real depth. For true depth into the paint you need real Carnauba. But that means touching the paint every three weeks or so which just won't do. It's bad enuff doing the blow dry thing never mind actually using some microfiber to buff out the carnauba.

Maybe if we buy cheaper cars we could go with 45 day intervals and buy two at the same time?

I got to talk with the wife about that. She gets all irritable when she has to get used to where to put her purse in ANOTHER new car. :|
 
Modesta, Opticoat, they are all the same. Many different names that all do the same thing but lack any real depth. For true depth into the paint you need real Carnauba. But that means touching the paint every three weeks or so which just won't do. It's bad enuff doing the blow dry thing never mind actually using some microfiber to buff out the carnauba.

Maybe if we buy cheaper cars we could go with 45 day intervals and buy two at the same time?

I got to talk with the wife about that. She gets all irritable when she has to get used to where to put her purse in ANOTHER new car. :|
@grim This forum is a never ending source of entertainment as well as useful information.

My coworkers keep wondering why I laugh at random for no apparent reason. :D
 
I have a rental Hyundai i30 for three days of business travel and I sat in it at a red light yesterday thinking, "I could buy 5 of these for the price I'm paying for my Macan S". It was a sobering thought.

Then the lights went green and I got embarrassed by a 10 year old Prius. Suddenly it didn't seem so bad to have spent the dosh on the Porsche.

:D
 
I have a rental Hyundai i30 for three days of business travel and I sat in it at a red light yesterday thinking, "I could buy 5 of these for the price I'm paying for my Macan S". It was a sobering thought.

Then the lights went green and I got embarrassed by a 10 year old Prius. Suddenly it didn't seem so bad to have spent the dosh on the Porsche.

:D
@gobobbie Don't ever even consider it! I got on a kick where I decided I needed better gas mileage, and bought a Hyundai Hybrid Sonata. It was the only vehicle I have ever leased. I kid you not, I broke the lease in less than a year, I hated it so much! Absolute crap from the beginning. Life is too short to drive garbage...

Now, having said that, the technology package had some amazing features. (When they worked). I know @grim will love to hear that...
 
@gobobbie Don't ever even consider it! I got on a kick where I decided I needed better gas mileage, and bought a Hyundai Hybrid Sonata. It was the only vehicle I have ever leased. I kid you not, I broke the lease in less than a year, I hated it so much! Absolute crap from the beginning. Life is too short to drive garbage...

Now, having said that, the technology package had some amazing features. (When they worked). I know @grim will love to hear that...
Heh, that's kinda funny. I've got a co-worker going through the same thing right now. He thought he wanted more utility and fuel economy than his R32. Bought a Subaru XV, hates it after 3-months. He is, at this moment, shopping for a new Q5, or other.

Once you're a car enthusiast, you can't go back to buying toasters.
 
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