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Snow chain ideas for 21 inch rims

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Hi guys, I have ordered 21 sport classic rims and wondering if there is an alternative to snowchains . Last snow season I saw a HSV with a type of strap that didn't come near the rim to cause any damage. Hoping someone could shed some light .
 
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Just last week I asked PCB what they'd suggest for 21's. After searching their parts computer & costing a set of 18'' wheels (that was scary), they scratched their heads for a bit, then suggested I park the Macan at the airport and try skiing in NZ :D

They blamed the Aust nanny state for making 4X4's carry chains - as a Kiwi afraid I can only concur:)
 
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....They blamed the Aust nanny state for making 4X4's carry chains - as a Kiwi afraid I can only concur:)
Just tell them it's AWD and not 4x4. But seriously, I think I've seen the web based 'chains' as well online somewhere. Certainly not here in Texas. Do they require actual chains, or can you stud your tires?
 
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While obviously you guys are more mechanically inclined than my daughter (and me), just be careful buying and installing chains. My daughter did it last year on her Civic (on a mountain pass in Washington State that required either AWD or chains), and one of the chains came loose and wreaked havoc, causing over $8,000 worth of damage to the car.


The fact she kept driving as the chain whipped the car over and over, thinking the noise was normal had "nothing" to do with it. :laugh:
 
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The fact she kept driving as the chain whipped the car over and over, thinking the noise was normal had "nothing" to do with it. :laugh:
"Who new snow was so noisy - Guess I'd better turn the stereo up..."!!
Love it:)
 
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Hi guys, I have ordered 21 sport classic rims and wondering if there is an alternative to snowchains . Hoping someone could shed some light .

This link highlights the issue of 21" summer tyres in snow ---- "performance summer in wintery conditions ... you must have a death wish"

http://www.macanforum.com/forum/whe...um/wheels-tires-suspension/43074-how-macans-summer-tires-handling-snow-ice.html

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Snow chains for Porsche Macan are only approved for fitting to 18" & 19" wheels

Snow chain fitting to rear tyres only. Fitting approved by Porsche
255/55R18 105V&W 9x18 $389.00
Snow chain fitting to rear tyres only. Fitting approved by Porsche
255/50R19 103V 9x19 $389.00
Snow Chains | Roof Carrier Systems
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Snow chains for Porsche Macan are NOT approved for fitting to 20" & 21" wheels

Snow chain fitting to rear tyres only. Fitting NOT approved by Porsche
295/40R20 106 V&Y 10x20 $389.00
Snow chain fitting to rear tyres only. Fitting NOT approved by Porsche
295/35R21 103Y 10x21 $389.00
Snow Chains | Roof Carrier Systems


The correct option is to use 18" or 19" Nokian winter tyre, wheel & snow chain package

18" winter wheel package, including Nokian WRG3 SUV tyres, wheels, snow chains and TPMS @ $4849.00
19" winter wheel package, including Nokian WRG3 SUV tyres, wheels, snow chains and TPMS @ $5529.00

Call Richard 03 9822 9539 for more info, images available, including snow chains fitted to 20" & 21" wheels
 
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Can you use fabric ones?

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Textile or fabric snow socks, (Auto socks or Rud Soft Spike etc), are not approved for use (in Australia) as a snow chain in the state of Victoria for 2WD, 4WD or AWD vehicles or in the state of NSW for 2WD vehicles.
In NSW, a textile or fabric snow sock can be used on any vehicle other than a 2WD because, because at this time, there is no requirement to use any snow chain "or traction device" at all on these types of AWD/4WD vehicles.

refer http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents...vsi-57-driving-in-ice-and-snow-conditions.pdf

Snow socks that comply with the test procedures V-5121, and are marked V-5121, are defined in V-5121 as a 'traction device' & NOT a snow chain, never have been a snow chain, never will be a snow chain.

The only test standard for snow chains is V-5117 and V-5119.
 
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Sorry not familiar with Australian law.
 
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That's your good fortune @BatuKMan!

Aust is the ultimate Nanny State when it comes to 'possible' snow & ice on the roads. With all the rules and regulations we have, anyone would be forgiven for thinking we get 10 meters of the stuff every year :D
 
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@PygmyOctopus How much snow do you get down there? I always thought of the place as warm and arid, but I guess it's a big continent.


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It's mostly hot and arid, but it certainly is big - have attached an overlay with USA for comparison.

Even in the South of the country, snow down to sea level would be a very rare occurance. The only roads that see snow on occasion are the alpine one, most of which lead to the ski fields.

The problem is the authorities force every vehicle on these roads - and that includes all 4WD's - to carry (proper non fabric) chains in the winter, on the off chance it just might snow.
 

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Snow chain requirements at Mount Hotham, Victoria, Australia

Mount Hotham - Travel to Hotham

Snow chain/ snow tyre requirement for Mount Buller Village, Victoria, Australia

2015 Mt Buller “4WD & AWD PARKING PERMIT GUIDELINES “

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Mt Buller - 4WD & AWD Permits
Refer guidelines http://www.mtbuller.com.au/uploads/file/Permit_Criteria_2015.pdf

From “4WD & AWD PARKING PERMIT GUIDELINES “
“When applying for a Village Parking or Access Permit the applicant warrants that
the vehicle will be fitted with appropriate tyres for snow season driving, carry
chains that are capable of being fitted to the vehicle and that any driver of that
vehicle has the capability and experience of driving in the hazardous conditions
that arise from the presence of snow and ice. “

From “4WD & AWD PARKING PERMIT GUIDELINES “
“We suggest the use of snow tyres that meet the international standard identified
by a snowflake-on-a-mountain peak symbol. The snowflake-on-the-mountain
peak symbol denotes that the tyres are suitable for use in severe snow conditions
and have received a severe snow service conditions rating. “


From: Mt Buller & Mt Stirling ARMB Information [mailto:info@mtbuller.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Mt Buller Village: Permit holder Reminder

Dear Permit Holder

Resort Management is increasingly concerned with Permit Holders who are not complying with the Village Permit Terms and Conditions.
There has been noticeable activity of vehicles being driven around the Village for private purposes.
As per the Terms and Conditions, Permitted vehicles are allowed to be driven to their allocated site on arrival and, upon departure, leave the Village directly. Vehicles are not to be driven around the Village for any purpose.
Resort Management makes a concerted effort to rationalize vehicle movements within the Village. The roads within the Village are used by both pedestrians and vehicles and the aim is to create safe road/walkways and allow for effective snow clearing operations.
Concerns have also been raised over the tyres fitted to Permitted Vehicles. The tyres fitted to the vehicle must be suitable for driving in snow and ice conditions and be able to have chains fitted. The Resort Management has the power to restrict vehicle entry into the Village.
Parking warnings and infringements will be issued to vehicles that breach the Permit Terms and Conditions. This may also affect the owner receiving a Village Permit in future years.

Regards
Andrew Markwick
General Manager Resort Operations

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Vehicles are not to be driven around the Village for any purpose.
This makes me want to go ripping through the village and do a few donuts in the middle of town - possibly with my arm out the window giving a rude gesture - all the while laughing hysterically.