If the autel MD808 pro can do all of those things, why would you spend $800 on the Launch? I understand it might be better. But if he just wants basics.

 

I gave him my opinion as I work on a range of vehicles. When I talked to Autel in January they said they didn't cover any recent Macans (later than 2018). Also the fact I don't need to bother with a cable is worth it as well as the other remote functions.

siberian

 

Yeah, I know it was an opinion, I was just curious whether it was an opinion on which was best or if you were saying the Autel could not do battery registration, which I've read it can (at least for me and my MY2015).

 

Your MY2015 should be covered. Here is the answer I posted some time ago from Autel dated, September 2019:

From: Raul Andrade <ussupport@autel.com>
Subject: Re: Re. Macan S 2020
Date: September 4, 2019 at 07:04:11 AKDT
To: ***
Reply-To: Raul Andrade <ussupport@autel.com>
The lowest tool we have that can read that would be a mx808 but i cannot recommend that because of the year of the vehicle you have the mx808 only goes up to around 2017 and some 2018 i would have to recommend a ms906bt that covers 2019 and going into 2020 but we do not have that software yet because of your year

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The Launch covers 2020 and updates are very regular (I had at least 4 concerning Porsche) since I bought the unit. Good luck

siberian

 

So if I have a 2014 911, and a 2015 Macan Turbo, and wanted the "big four," oil, service, batt, and brakes. The Autel MD808 would suffice?
The only other thing I would like to do is raise boost display, for Cobb tune. Which can do that(probably not worth extra $500, if Autel can't)?
@siberian thank you for your opinion, you don't make choice easy! It's not that I couldn't do the extra $$$, for the X431, I would just rather not.

 

You have the facts to the best of my knowledge, your choice.

siberian

 

I decide I'll go for the Launch. So I start researching the launch x431... Can some one shed some light. There are USA, and Chinese versions? Different support teams?
Which one to buy, and from where? Amazon/eBay vs west coast, and/or their distributors? x431 Torque/Turbo? vs. x431 V pro mini?
Now I''m really confused! Thank You!!

 

Did you miss it? Forum member siberian has one. He's been using it extensively. I've seen several posts on its
capabilities - perhaps they were over in the rennlist forum?

If you can, check over there in the Macan subforum.

He's also provided an Amazon link (above?) for the model to buy - that site contains numerous reviews with pro/con comments

 

Great! Must have missed it. I'll circle back. Thank you!

 

Some of the discussions mentioned ended up on the Rennlist forum and wasn't even in the Macan forum but the Cayenne one as it was started as a general thread to cover all electronic mods using an analyzer. It ended up by default being the Launch. The topic has been covered extensively here (if you look under battery registration) as well as under the previously mentioned Cayenne thread. I'm not going to rehash all that but simply to say that having been an extensive VAG-COM user for well over a dozen years on Touaregs, RS5s and Q7s one of the biggest benefits in the x431 over that and others is the wireless functionality where I don't have work having a bulky PC tethered by a cable to the OBD2 port.

siberian

 

An interesting video related to this, especially the last third of it. I don't always agree with what Scotty says, but most of the time his videos are spot on:

 

After 32 pages is it safe to say we still dont know which device can register a battery?

 

This is crazy right, you know. How could Porsche lead us all out to the end of the plank and blindfold us and send us to the deep? All they had to do is let us go to Costco and do a battery swap.

 

I'm not sure what 32 pages you read, but once and for all, the x431can.

siberian

 

They want you to go to the $tealer for a 700 dollar battery swap that's why.

siberian

 

Called my local dealer. $1,000 battery and labor. Battery alone is $569.99

 

I am sure this has been discussed before, however if you replaced the battery with one (from Cosco) that has the exact same specs and register it with the old serial number would it work?

 

That's nuts!

Costco has the Interstate H8 battery for less than $200.

 

I rest my case Your Honor, your witness...

siberian

 

It has umpteen times. You shouldn't do that, it will kill your battery within a year. Please take the time and read through the threads dealing with this. A lot of people have spent hours researching this for your (plural) benefit. The least you (plural) can do is spend a little of your time reading up.

siberian

 

Okay, before I go down this road, would somebody confirm that I have all my **** together and am good to go:

All the information below is gathered from reading the 33 page thread repeatedly and watching videos.

1) Autel MaxiDiag MD808 Pro will program the battery.
2) Interstate MTX-49H8 from Costco works.
3) I don't require an auxiliary battery source while changing the battery.
4) After swapping battery and plugging in the Autel, activate connection by:
a) Turn on hazard lights.
b) Press brake pedal
c) Flash lights repeatedly
5) Enter BMS program by entering the following steps:
a) Go to Control Units
b) Go to Gateway Control Module
c) Special Functions
d) Battery Change
6) Input the following codes for 2015 Macan Turbo S into Autel MaxiDiag MD808 Pro:
a) Battery Capacity: 95AH
b) Battery Technology: AGM
c) Serial #: Must be 15 characters. Interstate will be 14 characters and add a space for the 15th.
d) Porsche Part #: Must be 11 characters. 958-611-092-21.

Am I missing anything? Is this correct?

Thanks

Anthony

 

Okay, before I go down this road, would somebody confirm that I have all my **** together and am good to go:

All the information below is gathered from reading the 33 page thread repeatedly and watching videos.

1) Autel MaxiDiag MD808 Pro will program the battery.
2) Interstate MTX-49H8 from Costco works.
3) I don't require an auxiliary battery source while changing the battery.
4) After swapping battery and plugging in the Autel, activate connection by:
a) Turn on hazard lights.
b) Press brake pedal
c) Flash lights repeatedly
5) Enter BMS program by entering the following steps:
a) Go to Control Units
b) Go to Gateway Control Module
c) Special Functions
d) Battery Change
6) Input the following codes for 2015 Macan Turbo S into Autel MaxiDiag MD808 Pro:
a) Battery Capacity: 95AH
b) Battery Technology: AGM
c) Serial #: Must be 15 characters. Interstate will be 14 characters and add a space for the 15th.
d) Porsche Part #: Must be 11 characters. 958-611-092-21.

Am I missing anything? Is this correct?

Thanks

Anthony

I was waiting for someone to give you the official thumbs up before I bought the MD808 pro. Radio silence around here.

Ken

 

Atnsw decided to contact me privately, which I told him was not a good idea as these are items that could benefit others on the forum. I don't know what he did with the Autel whether he bought it or actually swapped or tried to swap the battery as I haven't heard any news either.

So here is, based on the list he posted above my replies to him. I hope that helps and please in the future keep private conversations for items that are private not for stuff that could benefit others.

As I mention in Point 1, I don't have an Autel but a Launch x431.


Hi, as you mention, I don't own an Autel having chosen the Launch x431.

However, I'll try and answer what I can off the top of my head. I'd just like to point out, that questions such as these should not be part of a private chat as others can benefit from this.

I'll thus try and answer in the order you posed them

1) I don't know

2) It's the one that will best work since we can't get any Varta batteries in the US

3) I would put it on a battery maintainer so you don't lose all your presets etc. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT try and remove the nut off the battery cables completely. Simply loosen them enough to be able to wiggle them free of the posts. Placing a little Vaseline on the terminals of the new battery will help keep any sulfates off it

4) If you have it on a tender prior to the swap you probably won't need step 4

a) Once you connected the new battery you can disconnect the battery tender if you used it.

5) No idea as it's probably different on the Launch

6) Yes - that part number is for a 2020 Macan S. I assume it is for other models as well but just want to be specific.

a) Enter the data and save however you do that with the Autel

Once you've done that, post this and other comments you may have so others with an Autel can benefit. Good luck.



siberian

 

To answer your question, I did buy the Autel MD808P and am waiting to receive it. Figured I should have it regardless. Next I am going to have my battery tested (drive to Advance Auto Parts or equivalent) to see how it tests. If it is good, I will wait for another guinea pig. If it is close to failing, I will be the sacrificial lamb. So, I am moving forward but cautiously as necessary.

One new addition that I am considering:

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While I will be able to do the BMS with the Autel, I think the above part will allow me to keep 12V power during the swap and therefore keep all my settings. So, that is a new discovery for me. Not sure it is a good idea since there isn't a consensus but I am leaning towards it since I don't see a downside.

 

One new addition that I am considering:

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www.amazon.com

While I will be able to do the BMS with the Autel, I think the above part will allow me to keep 12V power during the swap and therefore keep all my settings. So, that is a new discovery for me. Not sure it is a good idea since there isn't a consensus but I am leaning towards it since I don't see a downside.

Clore sells the jump packs. Thats not a coincidence.

Clore Automotive: Jump Starters

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www.amazon.com

 

I already own a JNC300XL but not the plug from cigarette light to OBD II.

 

In some purchase questions
Do you have to buy updates for the Launch x431 or the MD808? I saw on Amazon that the launch had 2 years of free updates, but then what?

 

Like with PIWIS and everything else you pay for a subscription. Seems the update for a year (after the 2 year free is done) is $399.

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I don't know about other analyzers but there are two standout items for the x431.

1) It's wireless, so I don't have to tether the OBD2 connector to a laptop or pad.

2) It covers myriads of vehicles if your garage has more than one vehicle and it's not a Porsche.

Will I need the latest and greatest update after my 2 year? Unless something major is missing, I doubt it.

siberian

 

I was trying to find the source of some front end noise and noticed some movement in both front CV axles. Wondering if a little movement is normal or not. For comparison, rear axles are rock solid.

97k miles 2015.

 

Front CV joint tend to have minimal play as are the ones which take all the stress as they move constantly, all cars show some wear, if you grab the axle and try to rotate it should not move more than half a mm which is acceptable, more than that is a sign of excessive wear.
unless the play is too much they don't tend to sound.
Which kind of sound are you after? clunking sounds often comes from brake pads if the spring retainers were to replaced when the brake job was done, those springs loose tension which the heating cycles and loose pads can get very noisy.

 

No rotational movement in front CV, just ~2mm in and out as you shake it in the direction of the shaft.

My primary request for this post was to see if anyone else has this movement in the axle. The quest for the clunking sound may be different and I'll look for that outside of this post.