[Fallranger]

I just picked up a green Macan and they happened to have them on this build. The look is much preferred with the green and the performance is amazing. Not sure I would have chosen them for the money on a new build but I’m glad I don’t have a red and green themed Christmas look.

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[Noah Fect]

PSCBs look great on my '20 S, and there hasn't been any squealing so far, but they are also pretty grabby. Not crazy about that. You can give them a pass without feeling too bad about it, IMHO.

 

[Flying Macans]

The PSCB wasn’t available when I built my 2018 Macan Turbo w/PP but if it had been I’m sure I would have selected that option. Interesting info here:

What you need to know about Porsche’s specialty brakes - Wyant Group

One piece of technology literally makes or breaks a model on or off the track. Brakes. Find out how Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes and Porsche Surface Coated Brakes pull out all the stops.

wyantgroup.com

the end of the article states there is roughly half the Brake fade from a 1,200 F PSCB than the regular iron system for a third the cost of a PCCB System. If I were tracking my vehicle that’s the brake system I’d choose.

Living in the southeast I definitely like the no rust aspect. I also like the 90% reduction in brake dust.

A couple of thoughts:
1. If the thickness of the coating is only .1mm (each side) does Porsche suggest the rotors be changed after a new rotor is worn .2mm?

2. If the minimum thickness of a standard iron rotor allows for more than .2mm wear from new then in theory can one assume standard iron brake performance after the initial .2mm wear down to the minimum thickness? If so, will the TU-Carbide compatible pads still work well enough or could one change only the pads (to standard iron rotor brake pads) and continue to use the TU-Carbide rotors until the minimum iron rotor thickness?

3. Since the front PSCB rotors on the 2021 Macan Turbo are 390 mm in diameter and my 2018 front iron brakes are 390 mm when my first brake job comes due can I retrofit my front brakes with PSCBs? From what I can get from the internet both systems use the same 6 piston calipers for the fronts?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this.

 

[KM20Turbo]

3. Since the front PSCB rotors on the 2021 Macan Turbo are 390 mm in diameter and my 2018 front iron brakes are 390 mm when my first brake job comes due can I retrofit my front brakes with PSCBs? From what I can get from the internet both systems use the same 6 piston calipers for the fronts?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this.

I’m resurrecting an old thread as I’ve been trying to find answers to the same question.

The only brake parts listed on suncoast for a 20 turbo are the expensive PSCB’s. Be interesting to know if anyone has swapped back to iron.

FWIW, I did find the brakes grabby for a short while but got used to them. The lack of dust is awesome, but its a high price to pay.

Before researching what PSCB brakes were (I’m new to Porsche), I was wondering why the rotors were always so shiny.

 

[Noah Fect]

The grabbiness has definitely gotten better over time, partially apparently due to wear-in (5K miles so far), partially because I realized that cleaning the rotors helps a great deal. This can be done at a car wash or by intentionally dragging the brakes under power every so often.

The pedal feel is fantastic when the PSCBs are hot and clean. Otherwise, it's not awesome, but not terrible either. Be interesting to see how long they last in the real world. I can usually do 50K+ miles on the factory brakes and rotors, but we'll see.

 

[smokey3675]

Can anyone please provide feedback regarding the option of installing the Porsche Surface Coated Brake (PSCB) system on the Macan S.
Is it worth the extra money? Is there enhanced braking capability? Is there a significant reduction in brake dust and brake pad deterioration?
I am considering adding it to my ordered configuration in the event that the braking improvements are evident.
I've read the hype, but interested to know the reality.

 

[yrralis1]

I think if you already have the Macan S or if you’re buying them a contest the answer is no. It’s not worth it. What it does is bring you closer to the GTS in price. At 18 way seats in your even closer.

 

[Jihnnyshi1107]

Not worth
A least for me
Reason I say that bc if u not take it to track
That standard brake come w car already have enough stop power
Ab brake dust . Personal wash it twice a month won’t be a problem.i would say save that no for other things
That’s wat I think

 

[doctorold]

Reduced brake dust? Absolutely. I don’t know how that works but it’s drastically reduced. Now, when they wear down what will happen? Dunno, but probably going to cost a bunch to replace.

 

[nevil]

I did not get them because I wasn't convinced they were worth the cost. Also because tracking my SUV seemed like an exercise in frustration. I'm sure it might be fun but I've tracked enough sports cars that were made for it.
As for brake dust, my stock wheels were ceramic coated along with the rest of the car and they are super easy to clean.

 

[doctorold]

As for brake dust, my stock wheels were ceramic coated along with the rest of the car and they are super easy to clean.

They may be easier to clean, but they still get dirtier much faster.

 

[dmanthree]

Before you install them, you might want to watch this video, especially the part about replacement costs.

 

[lyricgskills]

The PSCB’s rear brake rotor is as large as the Stock S’s front brake rotor. The front PSCB is a 390 mm vs 360 mm on the stock S rotors.

 

[macanadian]

... especially the part about replacement costs.

I certainly hope the pricing on PSCB replacement comes down as the uptake increases. They're standard on the GTS so either pricing will come down or an aftermarket cast iron replacement option will become available. There will be far too many cars out there with PSCBs for the 11k parts costs to remain the same.

 

[rasetsu]

Brembo had already announced they were making replacement tungsten carbide coated rotors so whenever the time comes to replace, one won't be restricted to paying full Porsche pricing. But to add them to a S, I would not. No harm in overkilling it on brakes other than to your wallet but it's not like the standard brakes on the S are inadequate.

 

[r_mcd]

Having just washed my RS Spyder wheels for the first time after 3500kms, the lack of dust was worth it alone

 

[Jkirkerx]

Can anyone please provide feedback regarding the option of installing the Porsche Surface Coated Brake (PSCB) system on the Macan S.
Is it worth the extra money? Is there enhanced braking capability? Is there a significant reduction in brake dust and brake pad deterioration?
I am considering adding it to my ordered configuration in the event that the braking improvements are evident.
I've read the hype, but interested to know the reality.

With states like CA working hard to reduce emissions and particles, including brake dust, I can see them as being a step towards the future of brake technology. CA forced pad manufactures to reduce the amount of copper in brake pads, because the dust in getting into the water supply. But today with 3 years of drought and intense Almond and Alfalfa farming, water is not abundant here anymore. Had to throw that in

I would imagine that the pads wear the same, but the rotors last much longer. I think the average daily driver changes the brakes around every 20K miles, so 26K miles might be the target for PSCB.

I wouldn't mind having them on my GTS, but it would have to be more affordable. I can't make an argument for getting the option or not, purely up to you.

 

[meyecul]

Having just washed my RS Spyder wheels for the first time after 3500kms, the lack of dust was worth it alone

Yeah, its the single regret I have on my 2021 GTS. I should have gotten the PSCBs on my order. With the black GTS 20" Spyders, the dust / cleaning ability is terrible. Thankfully about to switch to the new 2022 GT design style wheels in 21" so at least lI can get at them easier for cleaning.

 

[rgranger]

Ask your dealer what a brake job will cost. Used to be about $15,000.

 

[smokey3675]

Before you install them, you might want to watch this video, especially the part about replacement costs.

Thanks for the video link.
The prices quoted for replacement / repair are USD$, and down here in AUD$ the prices are usually much higher. At least 50% higher!
The cost of the option to add for my S build would be AUD$7,100. However that pales into insignificance when you look at the maintenance costs!
My order was placed at the start of April, with expected delivery in July, 2023, so the build has not yet commenced. I was contemplating adding to my configuration, however, ongoing costs far exceeded my expectation!
That settles it! Good grief! I didn't imagine the maintenance costs would be so astronomical.