Trued, I think haul here means "tows" 1500 liters of cargo (on a trailer), not in the interior of the car.

 

Changed to transport, thanks for notifying me. One can not have loose stuff inside the safety cage that goes for people as well as cargo.

 

1500 liters is 52.972 cubic feet. If it was 1500 liters of beer that would be 396.25 US gallons, can the Macan hold that much? If hauling that much beer I would take the long way home and be very careful with the precious cargo! A net of some kind would be required to protect the driver and payload.

 

The 360 degrees virtual view of the car configuration tool shows the interior with the cargo net when you pick the cargo management system.

Just my opinion, the cargo net is not something I am looking for when I buy an SUV. My previous SUV was a Ford FLEX and I could fold all other seats (including passenger seat) and fit a small apartment there but it did not come with a cargo net or cargo management system. I believe this safety issue with hauling cargo in the vehicle is something only the driver can address and no car manufacturer can ever provide a solution that works like seat belts.

I do see 2018 luxury cars sold in USA with NO backup camera. From the perspective of manufacturer, they have more profitable and regulatory things to take care of before they consider making cargo net hinges installed in the roof liner. I picked cargo management system for my Macan but the hinges in the headliner are ugly and never wanted them.

I don't mean to minimize the importance of your concern. Good luck!

 

I do see 2018 luxury cars sold in USA with NO backup camera.

Aren't Model Year 2017 onwards supposed to have mandatory backup cameras in the USA?

 

I'm not quite sure I understand. My 2015 has net attachment points both in the seats and in the headliner in two spots. One for when the rear seats up and one when the rear seats are down (more forward). We use the net mostly with out dog, and yes it was an option. Do the new Macans not have the headliner attachment points? Or are you saying the net should come standard?

 

I've owned Saab hatchbacks, and Acura and Infiniti CUVs and none came standard with nets or hooks for nets. When I loaded them up, I made sure the cargo was enclosed in containers that wouldn't go flying with braking or a wreck. Never considered that the manufacturer may not be looking out for my safety because I loaded unsafe cargo. Pack safe and be safe, don't understand the issue, e.g., load kegs of beer not loose cans.

I did order the cargo management system with my GTS, but did so for the rails and braces. I don't expect to ever use the net.

 

Transports 1500 liters of cargo. But no safety cargo net system comes with the car. The hinges on the back of the rear seats are there but no hinges in the headliner.
This is nothing but shameful.

I do not want to get the answer I should have ticked the cargo management system. That one is ill advertised and poorly presented what it consists of. Saying the car hauls 1500 liters of cargo is in my area of expertise enough for a safety oriented manufacturer to provide a standard safety system. In this case a cargo safety net just like Audi or Volvo

Sorry @Trued but you're on your own here. Porsche does not sell unsafe cars nor advertise unsafe cars. The macan is completely suitable for purpose. In fact porsche offers options to customers who wish to modify its purpose. Eg. If you want to track your car you can buy the sports plus option and the carbon ceramic brakes option so it is more suitable for track use. If you want to use it to carry a lot of cargo in the back they give you the option to buy the cargo management option. If you want to tow a trailer you can buy the trailer hitch option. They provide the base specifications and the customer then can customise the car to their preference based upon their intended use profile.

I didn't see anybody sue Aston Martin because their DB5 didn't come with an ejector seat. This crusade of yours will go nowhere because porsche are not neglecting safety. You just neglected to purchase the cargo net option. Unfortunately ignorance is no excuse. Trust me, I can see your point, but porsche are not doing anything wrong. And they are not advertising unsafe cars.

 

Hey @Trued, as a self-proclaimed safety adviser(?) to the Swedish FHA, and The Oregon DOT, you may want to get your facts straight before you "rattle the box". I hope @Rapido1 caught you in time before you demanded a 'stop sale' on all Macans on social media.

 

Hej Trued. I think you better sell your Macan and get yourself some other car that better fulfills your expectations; you obviously seem to be too unhappy with it and unable to accept what your model is and what it is not.

 

Seams like we have a "safety cultural" divider in the size of Grand Canyon here. It is hard to have a discussion when apparently some people give punches under the belt.
I clearly see some peoples loyalty to the brand and finding no flaws in their cars.

 

Transports 1500 liters of cargo. But no safety cargo net system comes with the car. The hinges on the back of the rear seats are there but no hinges in the headliner.
This is nothing but shameful.

I do not want to get the answer I should have ticked the cargo management system. That one is ill advertised and poorly presented what it consists of. Saying the car hauls 1500 liters of cargo is in my area of expertise enough for a safety oriented manufacturer to provide a standard safety system. In this case a cargo safety net just like Audi or Volvo

Sorry @Trued but you're on your own here. Porsche does not sell unsafe cars nor advertise unsafe cars. The macan is completely suitable for purpose. In fact porsche offers options to customers who wish to modify its purpose. Eg. If you want to track your car you can buy the sports plus option and the carbon ceramic brakes option so it is more suitable for track use. If you want to use it to carry a lot of cargo in the back they give you the option to buy the cargo management option. If you want to tow a trailer you can buy the trailer hitch option. They provide the base specifications and the customer then can customise the car to their preference based upon their intended use profile.

I didn't see anybody sue Aston Martin because their DB5 didn't come with an ejector seat. This crusade of yours will go nowhere because porsche are not neglecting safety. You just neglected to purchase the cargo net option. Unfortunately ignorance is no excuse. Trust me, I can see your point, but porsche are not doing anything wrong. And they are not advertising unsafe cars.

Seams like you have talked to the entire Macan community and serve as a spokesman amazing.

 

Seams like you have talked to the entire Macan community and serve as a spokesman amazing.

@Trued I'm sorry if you disagree with my comments. But do you not see the irony of the statements you make? If you need more clarity then I'm happy to elaborate but personally I'd start by accepting responsibility for your own purchase decisions including not ordering the cargo management system and that you bought a base Macan, not a much more expensive Macan Turbo.

Do you represent all macan owners in your self appointed position as Chief social media organiser for the campaign against porsche for advertising and selling unsafe automobiles? Stop lashing out at people for your own decisions and blaming others. For a perfect example of what I'm talking about, google the video Two Democrats on an escalator. Take responsibility and don't blame others.

https://youtu.be/RWttKddn_Hw

Peace out brother.

 

and finding no flaws in their cars.

Like: "Sunglasses for everyone!" due to light leather.

 

and finding no flaws in their cars.

Like: "Sunglasses for everyone!" due to light leather.

It is all about design-quality. A premium brand has to be premium in all. A Dacia Duster is a different case. One pays for premium engineering. Your light leather example is more the actual angle of the upward sloping dashboards upper part. This must be seen by experienced Human Factors personell at an early development stage. I am convinced that the issues with dirty rear windows could have been solved with an built in "air-slicer" in the roof spoiler. A Swedish brand had this in 1959. But as I mentioned before the fake front lights in the bi-xenon is a low level mark. I have no words. A car that delivers in all other respects.

 

Safety First!

 

Is this for real? I'm new to the party -- this is actually someone's Macan? I thought it was a joke.

 

^^^LOL

Are you serious with the title of your thread? Like what if the airbags were fake, what would you have called it?

 

So let me see my 2015 Macan S with ACC, BLS, LKA, rear view camera, front and rear sensors, with side curtain , driver, passenge,knee airbags and awd is unsafe because I don't have a net in the cargo area. Sure absolutely...not.

 

It is incumbent upon the user to load and secure cargo in a manner that meets their personal assessment of risk. Porsche conscientiously provides anchor points and other mechanisms for doing so. How is this negligence on Porsche's part?

 

Sorry but you cannot be serious about safety or even close.

The front windscreen of your Macan is littered with LCD screens and other devices, these do nothing for safety but must detract from the 100% concentration you need on the task of driving and observing the road and surroundings.

In any case if you RTFM you will see plenty of advice about how to transport loads safely, Porsche therefore have it covered.

Porsche does it right, they let you specify what you need from their accessory range.


In the UK Macan we have manufacturer installed tie down brackets in the boot for securing loads.

Please try to stick to the question of cargo net.

 

Sorry but you cannot be serious about safety or even close.

The front windscreen of your Macan is littered with LCD screens and other devices, these do nothing for safety but must detract from the 100% concentration you need on the task of driving and observing the road and surroundings.

In any case if you RTFM you will see plenty of advice about how to transport loads safely, Porsche therefore have it covered.

Porsche does it right, they let you specify what you need from their accessory range.

In the UK Macan we have manufacturer installed tie down brackets in the boot for securing loads.

 

Sorry but you cannot be serious about safety or even close.

The front windscreen of your Macan is littered with LCD screens and other devices, these do nothing for safety but must detract from the 100% concentration you need on the task of driving and observing the road and surroundings.

In any case if you RTFM you will see plenty of advice about how to transport loads safely, Porsche therefore have it covered.

Porsche does it right, they let you specify what you need from their accessory range.

In the UK Macan we have manufacturer installed tie down brackets in the boot for securing loads.

You beat me to the punch!

 

Neither our 2015 S nor our 2017 GTS have the cargo management option, yet both have hooks in the headliner just aft of the front seats, and both additionally have hooks on the rear-facing sides of the b-pillars. Does the base Macan not have these hooks? Are you just complaining that you didn't get a cargo net, @Trued? If so, it's not a stretch to think that if you had been provided a net and loaded your Macan with 1500 liters of stuff (back seats down), you would proclaim the Macan 'unsafe' because your vision in the rear view mirror was impaired, and you couldn't see out the right-rear window. You would proclaim Porsche should come with extended truck-like door mirrors and a 360 degree full-time camera.

I think most Macan owners support a high level of auto safety, and believe Porsche provides that. I, for one, do not want, nor expect, a car that allows me to check my brain at the driver's door, then save me from every careless or dumb decision I've made before climbing in. That's 'nannyism' gone too far.

 

I could not agree more! If you want to be babied by a car manufacturer then go buy a Volvo. They're made in Sweden, by Swedes.

 

Transports 1500 liters of cargo. But no safety cargo net system comes with the car. The hinges on the back of the rear seats are there but no hinges in the headliner.
This is nothing but shameful. ...I do not want to get the answer I should have ticked the cargo management system.

No matter any response you get, your idea is fixed and won't change. Maybe this will help you out.

First, the NHTSA is big time on safety. If this was a safety issue, it would be mandated. There have been cars sold in Europe banned from sale in the USA for LACK OF SAFETY devices (e.g., 959).

Second, Porsche builds bespoke vehicles. Your argument is the stock argument against bespoke builds. While you think its important, others do not. Why should you force others to pay for what YOU want? One can make the same argument regarding safety for PDLS and the headlights that turn or automatic dipping high beam.

If your issue is "Porsche should just provide this", then what about the trailer hitch? It can tow so much stuff. Why do you have to pay for the trailer connection? What about the skid plates. The car can go on dirt roads. Why aren't skid plates forced on everyone?

Your argument is the old "but my xyz car has this, why not this car?" Well, go buy the other car. No one forced you to buy this one. The pricing model is bespoke. You build it your way. The next guy build it their way. Everyone is happy as not every option is forced on everyone.

I know you don't like the responses but this is how it works. Just think. Why should any other member here pay for something they don't want? But you do. What if everyone said "Porsche sells performance vehicles. Therefore PCCB should be mandated for every vehicle. Its safer!" How would you like it the price of every car went up $8,000 but you don't want PCCB?

If you missed the option, then now you know to do more due diligence and research the options for next time. But don't force what you want to be on every vehicle sold for others who do not want it.

This is why you have a choice.

BTW, that clutter of stuff on your windshield? Thats probably an excuse to get pulled over in the US in many states for ... clutter, diminished visibility. I wouldn't be surprised if they called it distracted driving.

 

What would Rodney King say?

 

what would rodney king say?

"can we all get along ? "

 

He has a point. Porsche also didn't provide a place to store my loaded guns, dagger collection or a vat of boiling oil yet they all fit in the back!!! this thing is a death trap. Glad I've been enlightened about just how unsafe the car is. It won't protect me from every stupid thing I may do in it?? What else? don't even tell me it won't prevent pregnancy!!

 

Yeah but the little cubby under my seat is just right for one of the spare mags for my Beretta 92!


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And what about that cup of HOT MacDonald's coffee in your lap while driving your Macan?

 

Although some of these burns gave me a good chuckle (especially the lack of Rambo accomodations), i honestly feel bad everyone is ganging up on @trued. The cargo net costs 30 bucks on amazon/ebay. I didnt get one with my macan, but kept the one from my last car. Works perfect. Free .99. Also, your exhaust makes that 2L sound pretty mean. It might sound better than my stock turbo. I would take off the turbo badging though, its unecessary (with the race stripes/etc). And the windshield situation is an accident in the making.

 

Hey @Trued, a serious and sincere question here, please answer. Does, or does not, your Macan (a base model, I believe) have hooks on the headliner just aft of the front seats, almost vertical from the outer back of the headrests. Does, or does not, it have hooks mounted high on the rear-facing side of the b-pillars? I have driven a base model loaner, but didn't pay any attention to cargo net hooks. European Macan's are equipped somewhat differently than US, I realize.

 

i'm clearly late to the party, i dont check the complaints subforum here since i'm super happy with my Macan S so far!!

This OP is a joke. He clearly hates his car. Thanks, on behalf of Porsche for the $$$ though!!!

This guy needs a PR guy to check his posts haha....

For entertainment's sake can we get an update of your car OP!!! Exterior and interior pics please!!! i love it.

 

I would let this thread sink down the list as it's not adding anything good to this forum or its atmosphere.

I know, I know, this very post brings it back up to the top of the list.