Another reason I’m doing DIY versus the dealer...get a load of this one...what a joke!

 

Just did the PDK oil change - I didn't measure what came out but I put in about 4.4 liters cold, started the car, let it run for about a minute and checked the iCarsoft - temp at 39 celsius. attempted to put more oil in 2 more times and but oil was coming out of the fill hole - temp right around 40 celsius both times too. The odd part its, I only got out about 4.7 - 4.8 liters in the PDK total...I see that others got around that much in too - but I didn't measure what came out of the PDK...

Took it for a test drive on US-1 with my soon to be fiancé and all appeared to be normal, she agreed too - shifts a little smoother now too. I do have an interesting clunk that I might not have been aware of before but, when going from park, to reverse and my foot on the brake I'd hear a clunk...but that might've been there beforehand.

All in all, the crazy quote from the dealer of $2,300 for the oil change was crazy and I'm happy I got it done for $250. Hope others attempt it too!

 

Just did the PDK oil change - I didn't measure what came out but I put in about 4.4 liters cold, started the car, let it run for about a minute and checked the iCarsoft - temp at 39 celsius. attempted to put more oil in 2 more times and but oil was coming out of the fill hole - temp right around 40 celsius both times too. The odd part its, I only got out about 4.7 - 4.8 liters in the PDK total...I see that others got around that much in too - but I didn't measure what came out of the PDK...

Took it for a test drive on US-1 with my soon to be fiancé and all appeared to be normal, she agreed too - shifts a little smoother now too. I do have an interesting clunk that I might not have been aware of before but, when going from park, to reverse and my foot on the brake I'd hear a clunk...but that might've been there beforehand.

All in all, the crazy quote from the dealer of $2,300 for the oil change was crazy and I'm happy I got it done for $250. Hope others attempt it too!

Jeez, your dealer is a true stealer. My local dealer charges $960 and Indy charges $650-700 for the PDK fluid change.

 

I am glad I started my DIY early in the days.

 

Here, the dealer and independent charge the same price, although the independent changes
the internal filter (dealer doesn't), necessitating a gasket replacement and additional associated labor.

I recently had the service completed as 40K will be arriving soon.

 

Changing the internal filter has quite a bit of additional labor. The transmission fluid pan needs to be taken out and reassembled.

 

True.

It's a more thorough change, which is why I opted to have the procedure done at the
independent specialist, for the same money.

The dealer said they would also perform the PDK service again at 80K miles - and again, not change
the internal filter.

 

I have a dumb question - do you need all 4 wheels off the ground (on jack stands) so they can spin to do this job? I can easily drive my car up wood rails in my garage to lift it off the ground while being level (like I do when changing the oil). Once up in the air and level I could drain and refill the PDK fluid, start it, run up to temperature, shift from park, reverse and drive, then recheck the level. What I can't do is spin the tires. To do that I'd have to acquire some more jack stands. Is this good enough?

 

Why would you want to spin the tires?

 

Looking to get some confirmation from the people who has done the PDK fluid change. Indy shops are asking for 750 for just a fluid change.

I have a macan S going to reach 40k miles. Planning to have the PDK fluid changed myself. I do have the icarsoft Por II device.

Question
1) For fluid refill, the porsche tech video (Ref 1) did not cycle the gears during the first refill. He left it at P and never cycled the gears. However the second video (ref 2) looks like he cycled his gears in the first fill. Do we need to cycle the gears during first refill ?

2) Does the car need to be cold during the fluid removal or at operating temperature ?

3) Has anybody removed/refill more than 5 quarts ?

Thanks


Ref 1 - Porsche tech -

Ref 2 -

 

You will get out more fluid if it is warm
Don’t need to cycle the gears
Never got out more than 5 liters. But always bought 7.

 

Any Canadians out there have an opinion on this brand? https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/oem-synthetic-dct-atf-european-946-ml-0281547p.html

 

Are the transmission oil pan bolts torque to yield? If so, what is the proper torque procedure? I've seen they should be torqued to 10 NM, but I would expect an additional twist measured in degrees to create the stretch. Thanks in advance for any responses.

 

Question about ‘going through the gears’ as a previous poster mentioned. The suggestion is to go through, P,N,D,R as opposed to all the forward gears (hence the spinning wheels question).

Just hit 35k on my 18, did an oil change and am going to do this next weekend.

Thanks all.

 

Did my PDK fluid this week only got about 5.5 quarts in!! Car was level on my lift Got the kit from Suncoast. It is VW fluid with a Porsche sticker on the bottom!

 

How many qts of old fluid did you drain out?

 

I did not measure it but it looked like the same amount

 

Anyone using Liqui moly 8100? I’m looking to do a pdk service on my 2018 Macan s

 

Thanks. Here is what I did. I managed to get 4.8ish quarts in there so I think I'm ok. I'll keep in mind the engine on method next time around:

1) Engine off: Drain oil and change filters.
2) Engine off: Refill till it comes out of fill hole.
2.5a) Engine on, at idle, in P for 30 sec
2.5b) Engine off: Refill till it comes out of fill hole.
3a) Engine on, at idle, foot firmly on brake: cycle through P, R, N, D.
3b) Engine off: Refill till it comes out of fill hole.
4) Engine on, at idle, in P, top off fluid till it comes out of hole, monitor the fluid temp.
5) Engine on, at idle, as the temperature rises, a little more fluid will come out of fill hole.
6) When fluid temp is between 30C and 50C, install the fill plug.
6b) Engine off: Refill till it comes out of fill hole. Install the fill plug
7) Engine off, done.



I used LiquiMoly 8100 from FCP Euro on my 2018 Macan base. Shifts are smooth.

 

I just did the PDK fluid change this past weekend thanks to this thread with the car up on 4 rhino ramps.

Question: Does the final fill need to be done with the car running?

Referring to the step where the transmission oil is brought up to the correct temperature (30-50C). I cycled through the gears, turned the car off, and then filled it for the final time. Reading through the thread and videos again, I'm not sure if that was correct? Was the car supposed to be running or not? In my case since it was not, would it have made that much of a difference?

 

Car is supposed to be running when you do the final fill/level check, with the fluid between 30C and 50C, otherwise it will be underfilled. (more fluid will drain out with the engine not running).

Car must be level !
1) Engine off: Drain and change filters.
2) Engine off: Refill till it comes out of fill hole.
3) Engine on, at idle, foot firmly on brake: cycle through P, R, N, D.
4) Engine on, at idle, in P, top off fluid till it comes out of hole, monitor the fluid temp.
5) Engine on, at idle, as the temperature rises, a little more fluid will come out of fill hole.
6) When fluid temp is between 30C and 50C, install the fill plug.
7) Engine off, done.

 

Ok, the suncoast parts kit has the oil, o ring, and external filter.
The FCP Euro site has all of that PLUS a black internal filter, pan gasket, and all new pan bolts.
Nowhere does it talk about changing the internal filter.
Any ideas? I am leaning towards the FCP total kit since it is what my dealer said...they told me they remove pan, andreplace gasket. No mention again of the internal filter.

Porsche PDK Transmission Service Kit - Pentosin 95BPDKSERVICEKT

Porsche PDK Transmission Service Kit - Pentosin 95BPDKSERVICEKT

www.fcpeuro.com

 

@Santirx posted a DIY showing internal suction filter replacement. Yes, drop the pdk pan and replace the internal filter.

Dual-Clutch Transmission Fluid and Internal/External...

Hey everyone, another DIY documented here. In this case, I took the opportunity to replace not only the PDK transmission fluid and external spin-on filter, but also replace the internal suction filter (which should be replaced after 100 to 120K miles). To replace the internal filter, I had to...

www.macanforum.com

 

Always change the internal mesh filter. Also you will be surprised how much more fluid comes out once you remove the pan. The more fluid one removes during the change the better. Clean off the magnets etc also It is good bonding time. While you are at it, change the transfer case and the gearbox side of the transmission. It is good insurance.

 

It's soon time for my PDK Fluid Flush and fill. There are many fluid options: OEM, Pentosin, Motul, Liquid Moly, magic unicorn tears, etc.

In Canada my local dealer wants $60/qt for OE fluid. I've found that the Macan actually takes an OEM VW/Audi fluid G 052 529 A2.

This OE fluid is likely relabelled Pentosin FFL-4 (which is very hard to find in Canada).

However, Liqui Moly 8100 claims to be equivalent for much cheaper.

Does anyone have any experience? I'm no longer under warranty and leaning towards just buying the OEM fluid, but also don't like burning $$ if they're all similar. I don't mind using M1 0W40 or Pennzoil Euro engine oil so long as it meets the OE A40 specification...

Last question - every site recommends 7 litres for flush and fill, but most DIYers have said they've used 4.5 to 5 litres when they didn't drop the pan.

 

I purchased Pentosin FFL-4 from rockauto. Got 6L, used 5L. I did not drop the pan. Paid about $120cad before taxes/shipping

 

Note: To change the internal filter, you must first remove the cross-brace to be able to remove the pan. The Porsche (and Audi Q5) service manual warns that the cross-brace should only be removed when the vehicle weight is off the front wheels, so having the car on ramps is a no-go.

 

I have liqui moly 8100 in my 2018 Macan s, it’s works. When in sport mode I find it shifts harder though which I don’t like. And it doesn’t specifically say g 052529-a2, it only says g052529 another thing I’m wondering about. But Next clutch fluid change I will be looking into Ravenol, or just sucking it up and going with pentosin.

 

I used Ravenol synthetic "DCT/DSG" fluid for my recent change, it is listed to meet:
G 052 529 A2
G 055 529 A2