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P0016 Crankshaft position vs Camshaft position, Bank 1 - 2015 MACAN S code after motor mount job

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#1 ·
Trim:
S
Year:
2015
Hello all,

I have a 2015 Macan S 3.0 with about 118K miles. I recently just purchased the vehicle. Upon purchase I did an oil change with Liqui Moly and Ceratec. I also just did both motor mounts yesterday along with trans mount.

After putting the new mounts in, and buttoning everything up I am getting the following code:

P0016 Crankshaft Position Vis-a-vis Intake Camshaft, Bank 1 - Active

I have a pretty good OBD scanner and this code was not present prior to the motor mount job/oil change. The code is intermittent as in the check engine light does not always come on after starting. And the car runs absolutely perfect, no hesitation, no loss of power, no stumbling.

The only thing that was unplugged during the mount job was the electronic steering rack, which was plugged back in upon install. Now unfortunately I had to remove the suspension height sensors on both sides and that leads me to the next code.

000125 PSM Activation By All-wheel Drive Control

I did the PDK service per workshop manual, and the Pdk shifts like new. However when the car was up on the lift, I put it in gear and allowed the wheels to spin at slow speeds, I have a feeling the PASM panicked due to this and set off this code and all-wheel drive error.

I calibrated the electronic steering wheel end to end limits and SAS. However I am
not sure if I need to do any other calibrations because the “ride height sensors” where taken off and moved aside during subframe removal.

My car does not have air suspension, only the hydraulic filled struts that I can adjust via button.
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The car runs and drives like new with zero vibrations now, so I guess I’m atleast happy about that lol but I need to get these new codes handled. Here are pics of the mounts, completely collapsed with hydraulic fluid leaked out.
 
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#3 ·
Update: replaced camshaft sensors and timing chain tensioner - both fairly easy to do. P0017 P0016 code remains. Next step is removing valve covers to check timing and inspect chain/guides. May also remove lower oil pan to check for any timing chain debris. Slight weeping at valve covers and lower oil pan gaskets so they’ll get replaced.

If timing is off, I have OEM timing tools so I will retime and report back, if damage to any components is found, will disassemble front end and do entire timing chain/guide/cover gasket job.
 
#4 ·
Would it have been a requirement to have disconnected the battery prior to having performed the motor mount(s) job?

What does the service manual state?

It sounds to me as though your electrical/electronic troubles started with disconnecting components while the battery was
connected.

As for a PDK fluid change and running the transmission through the gears as a part of the process, IIRC, that procedure has been
described by other forum members several times over the last few years (check the posts in the PDK DIY thread(s)).


BTW, the code noted in the thread's title - was that not present before you initiated the motor mount(s) R&R? Or, had you not run and
diagnostics prior to the procedure?


Good luck!
 
#5 ·
Would it have been a requirement to have disconnected the battery prior to having performed the motor mount(s) job?

What does the service manual state?

It osunds to me as though your electrical/electronic troubles started with disconnecting components while the battery was
connected.

As for a PDK fluid change and running the transmission through the gears as a part of the process, IIRC, that procedure has been
described by other forum members several times over the last few years (check the posts in the PDK DIY thread(s)).


BTW, the code noted in the thread's title - was that not present before you initiated the motor mount(s) R&R? Or, had you not run and
diagnostics prior to the procedure?


Good luck!
The only thing I disconnected for motor mount job was the electronic steering rack, which has no fault codes. No other wires were messed with. I already did the PDK service, I don’t need instructions on that. I bought the car 2 weeks ago, the check engine light with timing codes was not present when I bought it, I scanned the car before purchase. It did feel a little sluggish. However I daily drive a Tesla and that may be why it feels sluggish. Anyways, going to remove valve covers today and check timing with OEM timing tools. Let’s see if I find anything.

For those just joining. 15 Macan S 118K miles - P0344 P0016 P0017, some misfire, CEL, PSM fault, sluggish. Replaced tensioner and swapped cam shaft actuators/sensors with no luck. Per other threads on Cayenne with these codes, it seems as if timing chain is stretched or guides are broken/breaking. Going to figure it out.
 
#7 ·
Had to drop the subframe, so a lift is needed. Would of been a PITA doing it on the floor. But if you have access to a lift, it’s not hard at all, just a bunch of disconnecting suspension component. Drive side mount bolt is a pain, took me about 30 minutes just to get that bolt out. Broke 3 harbor freight extensions/swivel adaptors in the process, but with the right socket and extension combination it should be easier. Otherwise it’s a very satisfying repair as the car feels new again afterwards! Good idea to inspect suspension bushes and replace during this time too since it has to come off anyways.