[CalgaryMacan]

I think people will be disappointed since Edmunds got 5.0 for the SQ5 vs the Macan S 5.6. So if you assume the 0.3 better with 1ft rollout, then SQ5 0-60 would be 4.7s! That is fast. Will be interesting to see what R&T, C&D and motortrend get when they test.

This doesn't surprise me at all. I also found the SQ5 did feel quicker than the Macan and don't get me started about the exhaust note difference.

 

[Cloudplay]

The price between the S and turbo with similar option is about $15K with the turbo only 0.6 seconds faster. If the Edmunds 0-60 test is accurate and the Macan S is running 6.0s instead of 5.2s with TS, that performance difference is equivalent to lot of money.

Just press the lower right button on the center console to switch TC off. There, you just gained 0.5s in your 0-60mph time. I'll forward my bank info later for transfer of the $15k this is worth.

 

[98base]

Yes it is frustrating but people did choose to buy a mass market Porsche. There are consequences to that.

Don't try to equate past Porsche ideals or values or history to the present. They are now owned by VAG. Accept it. Macan is a frankenstein of VW, Audi, and Porsche parts. Accept it.

However, theres still some "emotion" and brand value left. Chassis tuning is still one of the best. Once people accept that everything will be ok.

 

[ACW]

This doesn't surprise me at all. I also found the SQ5 did feel quicker than the Macan and don't get me started about the exhaust note difference.

I drove the SQ5 back to back with our turbo and the engine sound is better than the Macan when you are in the car but outside the turbo doesn't sound that bad.


In terms of acceleration I would say the turbo and SQ5 are probably pretty close with the top end going to the turbo.

 

[supernsx]

Your initial post speaks of a test drive. And even if you did buy it sight unseen and without experiencing one, if you based your decision on the advertised 0-60 time then you STILL got exactly what you wanted. The advertised time remains the same. The car is what it is.

When it comes down to it, we will have to agree to disagree. I will never believe that performance is an issue to someone who bought a car without even laying eyes on it. The Macan S is plenty fast and the Turbo even faster. Porsche isn't in the business of tricking anyone and would not just falsify times. As a matter of fact, if memory serves, Porsche has historically understated the capability of their vehicles.

You are over complicated a very simple question.

Is the Macan S without Chrono run the Porsche's published 5.2s in 0-60? A yes or no question. If it is "yes", we are good. If it is "no", the company is misrepresenting the product.

 

[supernsx]

Just press the lower right button on the center console to switch TC off. There, you just gained 0.5s in your 0-60mph time. I'll forward my bank info later for transfer of the $15k this is worth.

If my math is good, 6.0-0.5s is still not equal to 5.2s.

 

[grim]

You are over complicated a very simple question.

Is the Macan S without Chrono run the Porsche's published 5.2s in 0-60? A yes or no question. If it is "yes", we are good. If it is "no", the company is misrepresenting the product.

PAG has traditionally always been conservative in its numbers. Anyone who has dealt with them knows that.

Are you seriously questioning the integrity and reputation of PAG?

 

[supernsx]

PAG has traditionally always been conservative in its numbers. Anyone who has dealt with them knows that.

Are you seriously questioning the integrity and reputation of PAG?

Frankly, you question is really asking about VW. I have no specific feeling about it. Number is black and white and I just want to make sure I bought what is being promised.

 

[sebis]

When someone is testing the Macan S stripped, no AS, no Pano, no nothing, with 19 inch wheels with summer tires and NOT getting the advertised numbers let me know.

I finds this discussion quite silly, my Macan S is in service and they gave me a Panamera (base) as loaner, talk about a slow car. I can't drive it unless it is in Sport mode, my Macan S in Normal mode smokes the Panamera in Sport mode ALL THE TIME according to my very accurate butt dyno .

 

[RJMcInnis]

When it comes down to it, we will have to agree to disagree. I will never believe that performance is an issue to someone who bought a car without even laying eyes on it.

@rhoyle That is a bold statement. Let's ask a few people who ordered Bugatti Veyrons, Ferrari F40s, Lamborgini Huracans, Ford GT40s, Porshe 918s, etc, if performance was something they were interested in. They were probably more interested in the stereos available.

 

[Cloudplay]

If my math is good, 6.0-0.5s is still not equal to 5.2s.

Edmunds time with 1ft rollout and TC off is 5.3s (that's the method used by most magazines and some (many?) manufacturers). Close enough to 5.2? The missing 0.1s should be easily gained with a stripper car (no Pano, AS, 18-ways etc) on 18" or 19" summer tires.

 

[CalgaryMacan]

I drove the SQ5 back to back with our turbo and the engine sound is better than the Macan when you are in the car but outside the turbo doesn't sound that bad.


In terms of acceleration I would say the turbo and SQ5 are probably pretty close with the top end going to the turbo.

Sorry, should have stated I was comparing to the Macan S. The Turbo to me is an even worse comparison given its hefty premium over the SQ5.

 

[TripleZ]

This is why bad data is worse than no data.

 

[tempestv6]

We buy the vehicle as a package it offers, not just acceleration number. If acceleration numbers is what you are going after, I guess Macan is the wrong car to start with.

 

[Enilder]

It's not a deal breaker for me but disappointing at least. Even if other competitor cars are better in terms of performance, I'd still take Macan though.

The only other car that I might consider is SQ5. Not a fan of X3, evoque, etc.

 

[rhoyle]

You are over complicated a very simple question.

Is the Macan S without Chrono run the Porsche's published 5.2s in 0-60? A yes or no question. If it is "yes", we are good. If it is "no", the company is misrepresenting the product.

A very simple question, huh? At what altitude, what's the temperature and relative humidity? How much gas is in the car and what does the driver weigh? What is the road surface?

If you want every Macan S to run 5.2, it's just not going to happen. I think you can rest assured though, that Porsche was able to, on multiple occasions, run that time with a Macan that was lightly optioned and wearing summer tires. They didn't just estimate the time.

 

[rhoyle]

@rhoyle That is a bold statement. Let's ask a few people who ordered Bugatti Veyrons, Ferrari F40s, Lamborgini Huracans, Ford GT40s, Porshe 918s, etc, if performance was something they were interested in. They were probably more interested in the stereos available.

I'll stand by my statement. The people who bought those cars, by and large, were not going to question their performance. The vast majority of them also will never sniff the capabilities of the cars. They were interested in owning super exotics than the actual performance involved.

 

[mminkous]

I'll stand by my statement. The people who bought those cars, by and large, were not going to question their performance. The vast majority of them also will never sniff the capabilities of the cars. They were interested in owning super exotics than the actual performance involved.

I tend to agree with @rhoyle . They care, but they don't, if you know what I mean. At their level, when they want performance, they perhaps talk about private jets and helicopters.

 

[RJMcInnis]

I'll stand by my statement. The people who bought those cars, by and large, were not going to question their performance. The vast majority of them also will never sniff the capabilities of the cars. They were interested in owning super exotics than the actual performance involved.

@rhoyle @mminkous Good point. Hold on while I confirm with Jay Leno...

 

[Rollep]

After reading all these posts, I'm glad I ordered a turbo