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A bit more pain for EV owners may be on the horizon. Owners of EVs have been escaping the "road tax", Federal and state taxes added to the price of gasoline to offset the costs of maintaining and building roadways. The Federal tax rate is 18.4 cents per gallon of gas, state rates vary, with an average of about 50 cents per gallon. Some states have increased the cost of registering an EV to help offset the loss of the road tax on gas, typically by an amount between $50 and $200. Other states are considering doing the same, and there is a sense that the Federal government may adopt some form of tax on EV owners who have to this point escaped the Federal road tax.

See the NY Times article pasted below.


 
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reguy said:
A bit more pain for EV owners may be on the horizon. Owners of EVs have been escaping the "road tax", Federal and state taxes added to the price of gasoline to offset the costs of maintaining and building roadways. The Federal tax rate is 18.4 cents per gallon of gas, state rates vary, with an average of about 50 cents per gallon. Some states have increased the cost of registering an EV to help offset the loss of the road tax on gas, typically by an amount between $50 and $200. Other states are considering doing the same, and there is a sense that the Federal government may adopt some form of tax on EV owners who have to this point escaped the Federal road tax.

See the NY Times article pasted below.


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That seems reasonable given the added wear from heavier EVs
 
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reguy said:
A bit more pain for EV owners may be on the horizon. Owners of EVs have been escaping the "road tax", Federal and state taxes added to the price of gasoline to offset the costs of maintaining and building roadways. The Federal tax rate is 18.4 cents per gallon of gas, state rates vary, with an average of about 50 cents per gallon. Some states have increased the cost of registering an EV to help offset the loss of the road tax on gas, typically by an amount between $50 and $200. Other states are considering doing the same, and there is a sense that the Federal government may adopt some form of tax on EV owners who have to this point escaped the Federal road tax.
See the NY Times article pasted below.
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In addition, home/auto insurance should not pass down the cost to ICE cars for shared liability from EV being more hazardous on the road or premise!

Porsche has also confirmed Macan ICE models will remain!
Deputy chairman and chief financial officer Lutz Meschke has now confirmed that ICE models will remain a critical part of Porsche’s line-up for longer than previously anticipated.
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www.autocar.co.uk

Porsche mulls new ICE Macan amid drop in brand's sales | Autocar

“Conceptual decisions are being made” after brand's sales fall year-on-year
www.autocar.co.uk www.autocar.co.uk

It's likely we will continue to see enhancements on existing Macan ICE models or 2nd major re-design Macan ICE models for anticipating customers or markets.
 
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Jay Laifman said:
Well, I guess someone wants the Macan EVs (other than my wife and me). We just leased it last month, with the intent to buy it shortly, and we already got a letter from the dealer offering to buy it out from us "due to increased demand."
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Where are you located? My dealer got a pile of them and no one wants them. They will be willing to trade. Also, what issues you got with it already. I can guess with 100% accuracy that you cannot charge it at full speed of 11kW on a 48Amp output EVSE and when your SoC is at 10% you go into full Turtle Mode. I drove a RWD, 4, and 4S for a day each with all having all kinds of problems as I did a deep dive looking and testing everything. My dealer told me to hold on to them longer if I wanted, but I said, no thanks, you can have them back early.
 
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Jay Laifman said:
We have zero issues. It is a fantastic car. Unlike anything out there. We are north of Los Angeles, Westlake Village area.
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You can ask your dealer to dial mine in Indianapolis and they will send all of their Macan EVs to you and trade them for about anything else you have. How about 2 x Macan EVs for one 911? :rolleyes:
 
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electrek.co

Porsche will launch new gas-powered cars, because profits come first (for now)

Porsche will launch new gas-powered and plug-in hybrid (PHEV) cars as its EV models fail to gain traction. The sports...
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I swear to Buddha that these better be dedicated ICE platforms and not half assed EV designs being dialed back for combustion engines.

Car manufacturers acting like there’s not considerable design differences between electric and internal combustion vehicles and you can just exchange one drivetrain for the other insane. This addresses everything from batteries in the floor, gas tank positioning, motor positioning, regenerative braking, etc.

And you better not try to sell me a hybrid instead of a pure gas powered vehicle.

OK, hear me out it’s a 911, but it’s a hybrid so it’s heavier than a gasser. We could achieve the same performance gains with a big engine, but instead we’ve added a bunch of electronic **** to it, and we’ve put the water pump inside the engine where you will never be able to access it.

Best part is we can charge you 25% more than the outgoing model.
 
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I swear to Buddha that these better be dedicated ICE platforms and not half assed EV designs being dialed back for combustion engines.

Car manufacturers acting like there’s not considerable design differences between electric and internal combustion vehicles and you can just exchange one drivetrain for the other insane. This addresses everything from batteries in the floor, gas tank positioning, motor positioning, regenerative braking, etc.

And you better not try to sell me a hybrid instead of a pure gas powered vehicle.

OK, hear me out it’s a 911, but it’s a hybrid so it’s heavier than a gasser. We could achieve the same performance gains with a big engine, but instead we’ve added a bunch of electronic **** to it, and we’ve put the water pump inside the engine where you will never be able to access it.

Best part is we can charge you 25% more than the outgoing model.
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You will know what is what the moment a new car is released and the weight is announced . . . there is no hiding the bulls*t

The new G90 M5 weight 5,400 pounds, 1,400 pounds heavier than its predecessor, the G80 M5

The 2025 Macan GTS weighs 4,400 pounds as an SUV

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And with a stroke of a pen … that which was created by the pen, destroyed by the pen.


TLDR? NHTSA ordered by Sec Transportation to rescind CAFE standards that would have been a de facto EV mandate.
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Well, this isn't completely over yet.

The Clean Air Act allows California to set standards that are tougher than the Federal standards. CA still has a ban on the sale of gas cars by 2035. Eleven other states say they will follow CA's ban. CA, with its vast population represents the fifth largest economy in the world, and CA and the eleven other states represent about one-half of the US auto market.

The feds are seeking to terminate CA's waiver under the Clean Air Act, arguing that it creates a de facto mandate for the country. CA is expected to challenge the fed's authority to do so. We'll have to wait to see how this develops.

See the NY Times article below.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/climate/republicans-california-waiver-electric-cars.html
 
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And now they’ve killed any chance of adding/maintaining all EV recharging stations. All except Tesla… Can’t wait to see what happens to EV’s both new and used.
 
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Someone wrote earlier that the inmates are no longer in charge of the asylum... are we sure about that? Feel like we traded out some crazies for a different set of crazies.

Anyhow, will be interesting to see what happens with the EV market given the change in subsidies, charging infrastructure, Fed, etc. I still would love to have an EV and the Macan EV certainly would be at the top of the list, but just can't stomach the risk. Perhaps later this year or earlier next as we continue to learn more. My '22 Macan, while still a great car, just feels long in the tooth. I'm ready for change, but there isn't anything that exciting out there.
 
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Well, this isn't completely over yet.

The Clean Air Act allows California to set standards that are tougher than the Federal standards. CA still has a ban on the sale of gas cars by 2035. Eleven other states say they will follow CA's ban. CA, with its vast population represents the fifth largest economy in the world, and CA and the eleven other states represent about one-half of the US auto market.

The feds are seeking to terminate CA's waiver under the Clean Air Act, arguing that it creates a de facto mandate for the country. CA is expected to challenge the fed's authority to do so. We'll have to wait to see how this develops.

See the NY Times article below.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/climate/republicans-california-waiver-electric-cars.html
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Take a look at the bios of the California Air Resources Board who are making the policies that CA and the other states are following. Take a look at the "Equity" tab. California Air Resources Board - Bios
 
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