[reguy]

“Ford delays new EV plant, cancels electric three-row SUV”

Will focus on hybrid.

Ford delays new EV plant, cancels electric three-row SUV — CNBC

Production at the new plant in Tennessee was initially expected to begin next year.

stocks.apple.com

 

[WashMyCarPlease]

...moved my collection of Makita Lithium-Ion garden batteries (getting rather hot during operation) including charger from my unsecured basement to the fireproof boiler room recently after reading about burning and exploding bicycle batteries and witnessing how my wife's recent Dell internal laptop battery grew thick, already ripping the bottom shell apart...

You are very smart to do that. We had a house fire in our neighborhood a few months ago caused my the owner keeping quite a few Lithium batteries in his garage. House was a complete loss.

 

[Mii]

More fire like this is happening around the world. Expect house or property insurance to surge!

 

[Mii]

ICE with E-fuel maybe the future, major automobile industries are looking into this as sensible alternative.

Because while Porsche originally envisioned synthetic fuel primarily for specialized applications like racing and vintage cars, Steiner also believes it will play a big role in reducing emissions from ordinary vehicles, alongside electrification.

"We see this as a great additional strategy to e-mobility and we think we could really help the environment in a faster manner, because we could do something for existing cars," Steiner said, noting that while EV sales continue to fluctuate, new internal-combustion cars are still being sold and will remain in use for some time.

Porsche R&D boss: E-fuel plant should serve as "role model"

Porsche sees e-fuels as a way to displace the use of conventional gasoline during the electric transition.

www.greencarreports.com

 

[reguy]

Interesting, but I’ve read rough cost estimates are in the neighborhood of $12 per gallon.

 

[reguy]

Dieselgate helped the push to EV. The fraud that keeps on giving.

 

[grim]

For @yrralis1 in FL

Then the chorus of “But, ICE burns too!”

 

[yrralis1]

For @yrralis1 in FL

Then the chorus of “But, ICE burns too!”

When officials were giving out evacuation instructions, it was televised throughout the state. One of the first things that was mentioned was to get the electric car to hire ground. It was brought up during hurricane Ian, the home with stood the storm to burn down because the person left the electric car behind and it caught fire. Those homes on Sanibel and Captiva Island were absolutely beautiful. It is prime real estate This particular storm was extremely destructive, and I’m sure that fires present itself when they start going through the accounts of what happened. Right now I think people are still in shock in that region. It’s a very difficult process. I will never forget hurricane Andrew. It will take time for them.

 

[grim]

. Right now I think people are still in shock in that region. It’s a very difficult process. I will never forget hurricane Andrew. It will take time for them.

Absolute shock, I dont know where this is in FL or why do people build on the water



NC devastated



EV fires

 

[yrralis1]

Absolute shock, I dont know where this is in FL or why do people build on the water



NC devastated



EV fires

EV's are a disaster for a hurricane in just about every capacity . The fact that one cant even leave the car behind when evacuating is the final nail in its coffin . Last minute evacuations render a car thats not fully charged stranded .

Why do people build by the water ? Some of the islands are so small a house can be surrounded by water . It's a very tranquil and beautiful thing and unless the storm is ferocious the building codes lead the nation . Even inland can face destruction . Look at Asheville NC . Homestead Florida is where many from the beach evacuated to one Andrew . 160+ winds flatten almost anything .
I am not on the water nor in flood zone . I had 30K in damage in Andrew (prices are much higher now ) and 8K in Wilma . Was inconvenienced in Sandy , Irma , and a few others . Over. the years Florida has had no choice but to rebuild the electric components . 1992 we lost power for a month . Now its 4 days on a bad one what doesnt level the place . A storm that flattens a region can take 1 to 2 years to rebuild . I did it at age 34 . I wont do it now . I would sell my land as is , take the loss and move . Time wins over money and at my age I dont have years to spend doing this again . Usually in storm the real estate goes up near the place that has not been hit . When Ft Myers was hit Miami skyrocketed in value . For me storms were a strong reason never to buy a more lavish house . I am still living in the house I bought when I was 30. It's worth 10 times more and I lived in it all these years . Some people cant deal with the house risk so they buy a condominium . There are a lot of rules but I would do well except I have animals . I would never trust a condo if I had pets . My wife's adult son had a 3 pound 13 year old blind dog and his condo still made him submit a dog poop for a DNA sample to write a fine . He explained to then that the dog doesnt go outside and was trained because he's blind They still demanded the poop .

 

[grim]

My wife's adult son had a 3 pound 13 year old blind dog and his condo still made him submit a dog poop for a DNA sample to write a fine . He explained to then that the dog doesnt go outside and was trained because he's blind They still demanded the poop .

WTH? DNA? Fine for what?

 

[yrralis1]

WTH? DNA? Fine for what?

They match the poop to the dog and they write the condominium owner of fine. I forgot how much the fine is. It’s not just my wife’s son’s condominium. There are several who do the same thing.

 

[yrralis1]

@grim - the people who have electric vehicles which burned down their homes sadly have lost everything. Most of what the public sees is the buildup to the storm and the footage from the actual storm itself. That’s only like seeing the tip of an iceberg. The aftermath is far worse. If you’ve survived the storm, it doesn’t mean you’ll survive the aftermath. Many of the injuries occur when people try to fix something, and they don’t know what they’re doing. They fall off a ladder, cut themselves chopping down a tree, or even accidentally stepped into a puddle with a down powerline. . Even if you survive all of those things, the general public is really ticked off.. everywhere you go people are angry and frustrated and they get to go home to a house that has no electricity and that is 90° in their bedroom at night. During hurricane Irma, my wife and I took turns sleeping because it was so hot in the bedroom that I felt safer being able to check on each other. Dealing with the repairs is another obstacle because suddenly contractors make more than surgeons. They also run out of supplies so if you wait for the insurance company to come and write you a check, you might have a blue tarp on your roof for six months leaking into your house before it’s fixed. That’s why I had $8000 worth of damage. I just paid it out of pocket and didn’t even make a claim. It is absolutely horrible. There are a lot of people in the storms that just pack up and vanish. it takes a long time to deal with it and I suppose the electric car is the least of the problem, but it is a significant problem.

 

[grim]

Even if you survive all of those things, the general public is really ticked off.. everywhere you go people are angry and frustrated and they get to go home to a house that has no electricity and that is 90° in their bedroom at night. During hurricane Irma, my wife and I took turns sleeping because it was so hot in the bedroom that I felt safer being able to check on each other. Dealing with the repairs is another obstacle because suddenly contractors make more than surgeons. They also run out of supplies so if you wait for the insurance company to come and write you a check, you might have a blue tarp on your roof for six months leaking into your house before it’s fixed. That’s why I had $8000 worth of damage. I just paid it out of pocket and didn’t even make a claim. It is absolutely horrible. There are a lot of people in the storms that just pack up and vanish. it takes a long time to deal with it and I suppose the electric car is the least of the problem, but it is a significant problem.

D a m n … when Andrew came, we were on vaca on the road in desert sw. I would imagine everyone should have whole house backup generators.

I know whats it like with no electricity for a week but compounded with house damage 😢

But I will never understand those that build on the water knowing its just a matter of time. Ive been through the eye of a Cat 2, seen the eyewall, calm, then eyewall again and if they said evacuate, I would be 🚗🚗🚗

 

[santastico]

EV's are a disaster for a hurricane in just about every capacity . The fact that one cant even leave the car behind when evacuating is the final nail in its coffin . Last minute evacuations render a car thats not fully charged stranded .

Why do people build by the water ? Some of the islands are so small a house can be surrounded by water . It's a very tranquil and beautiful thing and unless the storm is ferocious the building codes lead the nation . Even inland can face destruction . Look at Asheville NC . Homestead Florida is where many from the beach evacuated to one Andrew . 160+ winds flatten almost anything .
I am not on the water nor in flood zone . I had 30K in damage in Andrew (prices are much higher now ) and 8K in Wilma . Was inconvenienced in Sandy , Irma , and a few others . Over. the years Florida has had no choice but to rebuild the electric components . 1992 we lost power for a month . Now its 4 days on a bad one what doesnt level the place . A storm that flattens a region can take 1 to 2 years to rebuild . I did it at age 34 . I wont do it now . I would sell my land as is , take the loss and move . Time wins over money and at my age I dont have years to spend doing this again . Usually in storm the real estate goes up near the place that has not been hit . When Ft Myers was hit Miami skyrocketed in value . For me storms were a strong reason never to buy a more lavish house . I am still living in the house I bought when I was 30. It's worth 10 times more and I lived in it all these years . Some people cant deal with the house risk so they buy a condominium . There are a lot of rules but I would do well except I have animals . I would never trust a condo if I had pets . My wife's adult son had a 3 pound 13 year old blind dog and his condo still made him submit a dog poop for a DNA sample to write a fine . He explained to then that the dog doesnt go outside and was trained because he's blind They still demanded the poop .

Totally stupid on my end regarding construction standards in the US but I always wondered why houses here are built with lumber and what it seems very weak structures when compared to the rest of the world. You look in Europe and in Latam, houses are built with bricks, cement, heavy parts while here they are basically lumber and paper. Don't get me wrong, it is so much easier to fix and update a house in the US where all you need is to cut a whole in the wall and patch it while it is a nightmare to do any repair in a concrete wall in a house in Brazil. But I wonder if homes were built with stronger foundations and heavier material in places where you have hurricanes if they wouldn't resist more and have less damage.

 

[yrralis1]

D a m n … when Andrew came, we were on vaca on the road in desert sw. I would imagine everyone should have whole house backup generators.

I know whats it like with no electricity for a week but compounded with house damage 😢

But I will never understand those that build on the water knowing its just a matter of time. Ive been through the eye of a Cat 2, seen the eyewall, calm, then eyewall again and if they said evacuate, I would be 🚗🚗🚗

Back up generators are pretty much useless. They require propane in most cases and the stores run out long before the storm ever got there. If fortunate enough to live in one of the areas where there’s a gas line then you have a little bit better of a chance, but the problem is most of those homes are old. They can’t withstand the storm. The forecasters are able to track the storm and make predictions, but there are last-minute wobbles sometime. Ian was supposed to hit Tampa, but then took a turn and hit Fort Myers. Andrew had everyone on the beach in Fort Lauderdale evacuating and then it took a turn and hit Homestead. They don’t travel in a straight line. Many times people will evacuate the hurricane and go to an area only to get hit by the hurricane. The days before I had animals and hurricane Andrew I would get on a plane five days before the storm ever even was near us , and watch it on television from Los Angeles. The whole East Coast is at risk. Flights from Miami to Los Angeles are pretty common and the weather is nice at this time of year. During hurricane Wilma, my neighbors had no electricity for 14 days with 90° temperatures daily. When the media covers the storm extensively, it means it really was catastrophic. Wilma was not like this one or Andrew or Katrina. This particular storm Helene not only powerful but large, and it moved in at a rapid speed, causing an enormous storm surge. It’s not uncommon to see things moved around in an odd way after a storm. Might find a boat in the middle of a schoolyard. Some people will see fish swimming down their street. Occasionally, an alligator end up in a neighborhood. Wildlife is greatly affected by this. It’s an all-around terrible thing.

 

[reguy]

Totally stupid on my end regarding construction standards in the US but I always wondered why houses here are built with lumber and what it seems very weak structures when compared to the rest of the world. You look in Europe and in Latam, houses are built with bricks, cement, heavy parts while here they are basically lumber and paper. Don't get me wrong, it is so much easier to fix and update a house in the US where all you need is to cut a whole in the wall and patch it while it is a nightmare to do any repair in a concrete wall in a house in Brazil. But I wonder if homes were built with stronger foundations and heavier material in places where you have hurricanes if they wouldn't resist more and have less damage.

Concrete block is used often but not always in Florida. It protects against windstorm and termites.

 

[yrralis1]

Totally stupid on my end regarding construction standards in the US but I always wondered why houses here are built with lumber and what it seems very weak structures when compared to the rest of the world. You look in Europe and in Latam, houses are built with bricks, cement, heavy parts while here they are basically lumber and paper. Don't get me wrong, it is so much easier to fix and update a house in the US where all you need is to cut a whole in the wall and patch it while it is a nightmare to do any repair in a concrete wall in a house in Brazil. But I wonder if homes were built with stronger foundations and heavier material in places where you have hurricanes if they wouldn't resist more and have less damage.

Wood frame is safe , energy efficient , cheaper , and well suited for warm climate . The first things to go in. storm are fence , windows , roof . Thats where Fl gets very savvy . I have hurricane impact windows up to 150 MPH . I dont have the metal roof . Its veto functional but I feel it doesnt match the styling of the home unless but as a modern home .

This is one of the well known local roof companies and they have pictures in the gallery section . I happen to love the terracotta Spanish barrel tiles and it can hold all the up to a Cat 2 storm . Tiles blow off in cat 3 and in a. 4 it may be gone . In a 5 it's gone . The metal roof can take the hit . It's streamlined for wind . Combined with the impact glass a house can withstand a huge punch . Roofing 101: Metal Roofing Pros and Cons - Miami Roofing Contractors. Commercial & Residential Roof Repair | T&S Roofing Systems

This Before /After is a good example . About half of my neighbors did this . I still cling to the old school . I love the aesthetics of the original . It looks like a small quaint home and modernized it looks like a tool shed to me. It's much safer though . Park an Ev. next to it and poof though !!

 

[grim]

But I wonder if homes were built with stronger foundations and heavier material in places where you have hurricanes if they wouldn't resist more and have less damage.

Bermuda, stone houses and roofs since 1712

The History of Hurricanes in Bermuda - The Bermudian Magazine

www.thebermudian.com

They know how to build hurricane proof houses. But the slate roofs will get blown off and boats tossed into the street

 

[yrralis1]

Bermuda, stone houses and roofs since 1712

The History of Hurricanes in Bermuda - The Bermudian Magazine

www.thebermudian.com

They know how to build hurricane proof houses. But the slate roofs will get blown off and boats tossed into the street

There are some areas in Florida that use concrete. There are also older buildings made of concrete . However, in Miami, the sum is so hot and humid that it poses risk to thermal cracking. The flipside is in the cold weather. The insulation is far better. In a hurricane once that roof goes or those windows goes you’re in trouble.

Miami said the standard for building codes for the hurricanes. They led the state for a number of years. But after hurricane Michael, the north started catching up. The switched to the South Florida codes designed post Andrew. South Florida’s Hurricane Building Code is Strong—And North Florida’s Could Be Stronger

You might recall recently the building collapse and Surfside (2021) . The older buildings that did not follow the codes and somehow slipped through the cracks of inspections which launched a full scale, blitz, and shut down many buildings since that collapse /. The question lies and how that structure collapsed. Many of the older buildings were concrete. Years of expanding and contracting in the heat and humidity, particularly in the month of July and August a great risk. The cause of the collapse of the Surfside condominium was attributed to its use of concrete. https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/...iami/news/surfside-florida-condo-collapse-champlain-towers-south-3-years-later/

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n response to CBS News Miami's public records request, Surfside posted documents related to Champlain Towers South in the late hours of June 25, 2021, which included a preliminary 40-year inspection report. Two days later, the town posted additional documents, which showed that the building had serious concrete problems three years before the collapse and a report that contained photos showing cracks on the building and missing pieces of concrete.