Well, I can say this much, every single time we've gone out in the Macan 4 both my wife and I come back thinking what a great car. Again, I have three other Porsches and if I had didn't have those, and had to have a Porsche, this would not be the first. But it's still an amazing car.

 

I thought of something else. This is our first EV. I absolutely love just plugging in when we come home and never having to go to the gas station. Of course our "fill ups" will take longer when we travel to Carmel for our annual visits, than if we had our gas car. But net net our annual time spent at "fill up stations" will be much less! So I'll happily accept the longer fill up once a year (or twice, depending on the year) for the much greater ease when home for the other 50 weeks of the year.

 

Well, now it is official . . . it is the law of the land officially handed down straight from the top

Drill baby drill invoked . . . the Green New Deal is dead . . . and EV related 'mandates' are too

Common sense will once again prevail

The inmates are no longer running the asylum

AVM

 

Inmates? Asylum? Do we need EV mandates? Not yet. The climate change issue is not a hoax but it’s also not the existential threat that some make it out to be. EVs have a place and they do offer a different type of performance so why not have them existing side-by-side with ICE vehicles? Both have their merits so for a company like Porsche who thrives on choice, build ‘em both

 

I was “excited” to see the first Mac EV on the road, thinking somebody had actually finally bought one, but it turned out that it was just a dealer courtesy car.

In other news my electric and gas bill is almost $600 a month even though I keep the house at 68 degrees and the governor is planning on keeping the EV credit at the cost of California taxpayers so people buying $150,000 cars can get a tax break while the average middle class family in my hood is driving a 20-year-old Pilot.

 

When I look at the vastness of Los Angeles east of Pico Boulevard for miles and miles, and at the flats of the San Fernando Valley, and all the small apartment buildings with maybe one carport per unit, with additional cars parked here, there and everywhere around on the streets without any chance of getting to a charger, the idea that electric cars will proliferate in those areas in the next few decades seems wildly impossible. I mean like mind-blowing impossible.

And I totally understand that there are many reasons why using electricity in California to charge cars may be less "green" than ICE cars.

That said, we absolutely love our Macan EV for the driving experience in and of itself. Green or not green. I don't think we'll ever go back. Well, but then we'll never give up on our other Porsches either, so I know it's not really fair. But it's still true that we love the Macan EV itself and it is a transformative experience to us.

 

When I look at the vastness of Los Angeles east of Pico Boulevard for miles and miles, and at the flats of the San Fernando Valley, and all the small apartment buildings with maybe one carport per unit, with additional cars parked here, there and everywhere around on the streets without any chance of getting to a charger, the idea that electric cars will proliferate in those areas in the next few decades seems wildly impossible.

And I totally understand that there are many reasons why using electricity in California to charge cars may be less "green" than ICE cars.

That said, as I've said, we absolutely love our Macan EV for the driving experience in and of itself. Green or not green. And so far, I don't think we'll ever go back. Well, but then we'll never give up on our other Porsches, so I know it's not really fair. But it's still true that we love the Macan EV itself and it is a transformative experience to us.

The tens of millions of dollars California has spent on public car chargers have mostly resulted in three or four charging stations at out of the way rest stops which remain closed. Remember, this is the state that’s proud of a $1.4 million toilet in San Francisco.

So far the only person who is making any progress into public charging stations is Elon.

 

Believe me, that is why we were previously saying if we got an EV it would be a Tesla. But we were also saying that we didn't want that and were more likely to get a plug in hybrid. However, after testing them all, we just liked the Macan EV so much, we broke both of those.

 

Following and analyzing the recently announced policies in the US, it looks to me as the next logical step is Tesla migrating from electric to ICE powered vehicles, maybe with a hybrid intermediate step ...

 

I am not understanding the upending of our entire infrastructure (when China, Russia, India... are not) to reduce a gas that makes up .04 % of the atmosphere and where everything dies if that gas falls below .02%. We seem to be dancing on knives for little reason. I think EVs will remain, a lot of folks like them, heck I would if I lived inside the city and didn't drive. A trip back and forth across the Houston area can be 150 mile round trip, going to out west to just north of Conroe is 180 round trip. Not much of a buffer on most EVs.

 

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My bad. Sorry

 

And with a stroke of a pen … that which was created by the pen, destroyed by the pen.

https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/2025-01/Signed%20Secretarial%20Memo%20re%20Fixing%20the%20CAFE%20Program.pdf

TLDR? NHTSA ordered by Sec Transportation to rescind CAFE standards that would have been a de facto EV mandate.

 

I don't disagree with this at all. But, I will say, mandates or not, we still would pick the Macan EV for its totally different driving experience. (Though as I've said before, not as a replacement of my air cooled, gas powered, Porsches).

 

A bit more pain for EV owners may be on the horizon. Owners of EVs have been escaping the "road tax", Federal and state taxes added to the price of gasoline to offset the costs of maintaining and building roadways. The Federal tax rate is 18.4 cents per gallon of gas, state rates vary, with an average of about 50 cents per gallon. Some states have increased the cost of registering an EV to help offset the loss of the road tax on gas, typically by an amount between $50 and $200. Other states are considering doing the same, and there is a sense that the Federal government may adopt some form of tax on EV owners who have to this point escaped the Federal road tax.

See the NY Times article pasted below.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/business/ev-fees-gas-tax.html?searchResultPosition=1

 

That seems reasonable given the added wear from heavier EVs

 

Yeah, amazing

 

Well, I guess someone wants the Macan EVs (other than my wife and me). We just leased it last month, with the intent to buy it shortly, and we already got a letter from the dealer offering to buy it out from us "due to increased demand."

 

Where are you located? My dealer got a pile of them and no one wants them. They will be willing to trade. Also, what issues you got with it already. I can guess with 100% accuracy that you cannot charge it at full speed of 11kW on a 48Amp output EVSE and when your SoC is at 10% you go into full Turtle Mode. I drove a RWD, 4, and 4S for a day each with all having all kinds of problems as I did a deep dive looking and testing everything. My dealer told me to hold on to them longer if I wanted, but I said, no thanks, you can have them back early.

 

Porsche will launch new gas-powered cars, because profits come first (for now)

Porsche will launch new gas-powered and plug-in hybrid (PHEV) cars as its EV models fail to gain traction. The sports...

electrek.co

 

I swear to Buddha that these better be dedicated ICE platforms and not half assed EV designs being dialed back for combustion engines.

Car manufacturers acting like there’s not considerable design differences between electric and internal combustion vehicles and you can just exchange one drivetrain for the other insane. This addresses everything from batteries in the floor, gas tank positioning, motor positioning, regenerative braking, etc.

And you better not try to sell me a hybrid instead of a pure gas powered vehicle.

OK, hear me out it’s a 911, but it’s a hybrid so it’s heavier than a gasser. We could achieve the same performance gains with a big engine, but instead we’ve added a bunch of electronic **** to it, and we’ve put the water pump inside the engine where you will never be able to access it.

Best part is we can charge you 25% more than the outgoing model.

 

We have zero issues. It is a fantastic car. Unlike anything out there. We are north of Los Angeles, Westlake Village area.

 

You can ask your dealer to dial mine in Indianapolis and they will send all of their Macan EVs to you and trade them for about anything else you have. How about 2 x Macan EVs for one 911?

 

And now they’ve killed any chance of adding/maintaining all EV recharging stations. All except Tesla… Can’t wait to see what happens to EV’s both new and used.

 

Someone wrote earlier that the inmates are no longer in charge of the asylum... are we sure about that? Feel like we traded out some crazies for a different set of crazies.

Anyhow, will be interesting to see what happens with the EV market given the change in subsidies, charging infrastructure, Fed, etc. I still would love to have an EV and the Macan EV certainly would be at the top of the list, but just can't stomach the risk. Perhaps later this year or earlier next as we continue to learn more. My '22 Macan, while still a great car, just feels long in the tooth. I'm ready for change, but there isn't anything that exciting out there.

 

Still loving our Macan 4 EV. I have no idea who this author is or the source of his info. And he does give fair qualifications. But since we love the car so much, I liked reading this. Porsche's Macan Electric is Already an Astounding Success

 

Instead of admitting Porsche had read the market wrong on EV models, Porsche is considering to introduce new ICE/hybrid SUV and call it something else, not Macan!

New fresh design ICE SUV model won't come out until closer to 2030. 2026 ICE Macan may mark the last model year of the beloved ICE Macan.

https://www.motor1.com/news/753252/porsche-considering-new-gas-suv/

 

I hope the haters are reading the just out C&D review of the macan EV turbo. Completely destroys the ICE version in all aspects of performance. Apart from charging infrastructure it’s hard to argue against it.

 

There's a lot more to a car than performance, with a face and overall proportions like the current Macan EV, the Taycan Cross seems a lot more appealing.

The Macan has lost whatever small details that had that connected it to the rest of the Porsche lineup. I'm sure at some point, they will look all the same but there's nothing too attractive here. There's a few good angles but generally, as some of the comments mentioned in the C&D article, potato comes to mind. I thought this about certain versions/angles of the ICE Macan but the new EV design really highlights it.

The performance will definitely lure many buyers, as the other EVs do, but style and beauty of the machine should be part of the Porsche ownership experience. Hopefully future redesigns will clean it up.

 

I do not conside myself an EV hater, value the Taycan a lot, but my impression of the EV Macan felt too fat in curves (even with rear steering), overloaded front axle and questionable perceived interior quality. Not a bad car but not a convincing Porsche. Even the ICE Macan T package still feels better, sounder - no reason for me to change. Maybe too much Audi, too little Porsche reflects my impression.

 

ICE Macan: Idaho potato
EV Macan: Couch potato

 

Porsche Shifts Course, Leans Into ICE and Hybrids Instead of EVs

Like a lot of automakers, Porsche made an aggressive push towards EVs. Its initial plan was for 80 percent of its sales to be fully electric by 2030, but at its annual shareholder meeting Wednesday, CEO Oliver Blume said that's not going to happen, though not for lack of trying. So now, it's putting more emphasis on hybrid options ...

Blume said in his remarks that "in the SUV segment, we are examining a new model series. It could come onto the market towards the end of the decade — also with combustion and hybrid drive."

https://www.motor1.com/news/760315/porsche-hybrid-plans-2025/

 

Porsche Shifts Course, Leans Into ICE and Hybrids Instead of EVs

https://www.motor1.com/news/760315/porsche-hybrid-plans-2025/

Blume - “we are a step ahead of market developments.” That’s hysterical. They are multiple steps behind.

 

A cargo ship carrying around 3,000 vehicles, including 800 electric vehicles, caught fire June 3 off the coast of Alaska, causing its crew to be evacuated ...
EV-related fires on ships are challenging to extinguish because of the heat generated and risk of reignition, which could persist for days.
In 2022, a ship carrying 4,000 luxury cars, including Porsches and Bentleys, sank off the Portuguese Azores archipelago nearly two weeks after it caught fire.
Fires onboard vessels, particularly on container ships, car carriers and roll-on/roll-off ships are a big concern for insurers.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2025/06/04/ship-cars-abandoned-fire-evs/84030266007/

 

No bueno.
May not be any Porsche cars on it though, or is there information somewhere else saying so?