Did you get to drive an EV Macan?

 

No, there were no test drives at the event. I guess I could make an appointment with my dealer, but I don't need a new car right now.

 

Seriously, I'd like to see some threads with driving impressions of the EV Macan's ... I guess I don't understand all the hate.

I copied this from another thread because its a more broad question and would get buried.

I do not think its hatred, per se, of the vehicle, but an accumulation of many things. In no particular order.

1. EU legislation dictates (mandates) the demise of ICE, or they go out of business. Already stockholders have pushed back and said no (google it). In the end, profit is what matters.
2. In the US, they cannot legislate the demise of ICE because no such federal bill would pass, but they can regulate it out of business *. For example, the EPA can say a vehicle can only emit so much CO2 knowing ICE cannot do that. But that is easily erased with a stroke of the pen. There is no consensus to remove ICE from the US or they would be a law to do that. This lack of choice between fuels sits poorly with those who believe a free market, let the market decide, is how capitalism is supposed to work. Americans tend to take the choice of vehicle seriously. Other issues, such as HVAC chemicals, etc, can easily be regulated away because nobody cares what is used in those devices, or even knows how they work. Things that work in the background are just background noise.
3. EV technology is still in the innovation state, not the early adopter state. See Early Adopters of Electric Vehicles: The EV Adoption Curve based on Diffusion of Innovation theory. Only Norway has hit the early adopter state. This results in massive depreciation of the vehicle and, as part of TCO, this is a financial hit that most people find not only unappealing but unacceptable. Let the "early adopter" take the loss. In terms of today's technology, think of it as buying an 8K TV, when few cable stations broadcast in 4K.
4. The pricing is outrageous.
5. For many the vehicle is an appliance. Many people do not want a Porsche that is an appliance. They are buying a dream, not a washing machine. They want a vehicle that thrills them, that they will look back at when they park and marvel at, a vehicle they will make a poster of and hang it on the wall. People do not put pictures of their washing machine on the wall.
6. For some people, a large portion of the US household infrastructure, household EV charging is impossible, or financially impractical with no ROI. IOW, the very housing of the US was never intended to support EV charging.
   1. This could be the many people living with common parking (e.g., townhouses, apartments), or on street parking as exists in many urban areas. With on street parking, who ever gets to park first parks. Look at any snowstorm in an urban areas. People shovel their cars out, then put chairs in them to preserve their parking. Imagine that with EVs and no guaranteed parking.
   2. For a large number of single family houses, the electrical infrastructure was never intended to handle the loads. While houses built from the late 80s on have 200 AMP service, that simply is not true for the rest of the USA with 60, 100, and 150 AMP services, and even 30 AMP houses exist along with knob and tube wiring. Besides the costs of the charger itself, electrician, and permits, there is the additional cost of upgrading the service or using some kind of load shedding devices to ensure the electric loads do not exceed the capacity of the house. Then there is the issue of buried wiring that might need to be upgraded from the transformer itself to the house by the utility and possibly the issue the transformer needs to upgraded to accommodate the electrical load of the houses it services. IOW, its just not worth the cost and hassle to upgrade. Depending upon the problems to resolve, this could easily run over $10,000. The early adopters can just plug and play. The rest cannot.

Bottom line, its complicated and many factors are involved.

* (this complies with rule 8 "except when directly related to the Porsche Macan, for example, new legislation regarding automobiles").

 

Agreed with many of these items, but the fact is in the US nobody is proposing outlawing one option or the other. And again, there are people for whom an electric is a terrible choice. For some, it might be the best choice.

I highly agree that the pricing is outrageous, but it seems all Porsches are that way anymore. That is why I haven't upgraded my 2018 Macan for a newer one that is essentially the same car for $25,000 more in sticker price. Due to incentives, the electric cars actually tend to be some of the better values out there. Cheapest Lexus to lease? Their electric which is $20,000 more than their entry level model. One of my employees just leased a new Nissan Arriya. Why? The lease price was lower than a Sentra.

 

https://taiwanenglishnews.com/9-electric-buses-destroyed-by-suspected-lithium-battery-fire-in-taichung-city/

 

I could not find a thread specific to Solid State battery technology so I'll post it here.

If this can replace lithium ion batteries and tremendously reduce thermal runaway/fire risk and reduce the size and weight and increase the amount of energy/amount of miles driven on a full charge… It would be a game changer for EVs!

"Samsung’s EV battery breakthrough: 600-mile charge in 9 mins, 20 year lifespan"

Samsung’s 20-year-life EV battery runs 600 miles on 9-minute charge

Samsung's solid-state battery could be the game-changer EVs need, boasting a 600-mile range, 9-minute charging time, and 20-year lifespan.

interestingengineering.com

and

"Solid-state batteries are considered the holy grail in the battery world, with more capacity than current lithium-ion batteries. Will a German start-up be the first to mass produce them? We take a closer look."

Video link:

Solid-state batteries made in Germany – DW – 11/01/2024

Solid-state batteries are considered the holy grail in the battery world, with more capacity than current lithium-ion batteries. Will a German start-up be the first to mass produce them? We take a closer look.

www.dw.com

 

Porsche /the VW group are working on this. The VW group has formed an alliance with an entity, QuantumScape, to move this forward. See the links below, one is from the Porsche newsroom.

This may develop to be very good news for the future of EV, but very bad for the buyers of EV products already sold and being sold before this is perfected and implemented. Another reason why current EV sales are disappointing.

PowerCo and QuantumScape Announce Landmark Agreement to Industrialize Solid-State Batteries

Brings Extensive High-Volume Production Experience as Company Drives to Commercialize Solid-State Lithium-Metal Batteries

www.quantumscape.com

More convenient charging and shorter travel times

Here you can find an outlook on how charging at home, on the road and at the destination will change in the future.

newsroom.porsche.com

 

MG to launch EV with solid state battery in 2025.

MG to launch first electric car with solid-state battery in 2025 | Autocar

MG parent SAIC accelerates cheaper, more energy-dense batteries and the first is due in a production EV next year

www.autocar.co.uk

 

Elon Musk Announces NEW Solid-State Battery Tech For Model Y 2025. 30% More Efficient!

 

Saw the Macan 4 EV on the road the other day and have to say, it looks great in the wild. The back reminds me of a smaller Cayenne Coupe, which I'm also a fan of and the front end is a nice update that gives a Porsche EV (or Taycan) vibe. I wasn't convinced seeing it online, but it looks much better in person IMO and I'm really liking it.

If it were an ICE or Hybrid, it would absolutely be my next vehicle, but a near six figure EV just doesn't fit our lifestyle right now...

 

Some relevant sourcing

This explains the EV adoption Curve

Early Adopters of Electric Vehicles: The EV Adoption Curve

Early adopters of electric vehicles are the 2nd adopter group on the EV adoption curve as per Diffusion of Innovations theory for electric car innovations.

www.exro.com

Today, in the USA, at 1.7% of registered cars, EV adoption is still in the "innovative" stage, not even the early adopters This, is the Auto Alliance EV quarterly report

Electric Vehicle Quarterly Report It references the National Renewable Energy lab Report The 2030 National Charging Network

There is a lot of reading in here but to jump to the bottom line, the NREL wants to see 33M EVs on the road by 2030. Thats 10X the number today or about 11% of the registered vehicles, in the Early Adoption Stage. I'll let the words from the Auto Alliance report say it

... between the end of Q2 2024 and December 31, 2030, 451 chargers need to be installed every day, for the next 6.5 years. Or 3 chargers every 10 minutes through the end of 2030....

a national capital investment of $53– $127 billion ... Notably, the estimates exclude the cost of grid upgrades and distributed energy resources.

Now from the NREL

Cost estimates exclude cost of front-of-meter utility upgrades (such as new transformers and line extensions), distributed energy resources (such as on-site storage or generation), operating costs (such as utility energy and demand charges), maintenance costs (necessary for ensuring a high level of reliability), and certain construction soft costs (such as delays associated with local permitting utility service connection).

Not going to happen

451 chargers need to be installed every day, for the next 6.5 years. Or 3 chargers every 10 minutes through the end of 2030.... and the projected costs do NOT include the cost to upgrade service from the meter to the electric company.

 

If you have 60 minutes, here is a very well articulated presentation on the topic of EVs.

AVM

P.S. "According to the EPA, the average (ICE) passenger vehicle in the United States emits around 4.6 metric tones of carbon dioxide annually . . .

A B-52 bomber burns nearly a full load of fuel flying 10,000kM. Roughly 120 long tons of jet fuel, which would create/emit about 370 metric tons of CO2 (roughly 1200 long tons of CO2 emissions)."

Thus, the average ICE driver on the road would have to drive approximately 80 years to emit as much CO2 as a SINGLE B52 Bomber flight. It is estimated that there are no fewer than seven B52 Bombers airborne at one time, 24 hours a day, 352 days a year. In fact - BY FAR - the single greatest emitter of CO2 in the world is the U.S. military industrial complex:

"The US military is the world's largest institutional consumer of hydrocarbons and the single largest institutional producer of greenhouse gases (GHG). The military's carbon footprint is so large that if it were its own nation, it would be the 55th largest CO2 emitter in the world."

If CO2 emissions are a concern, I have an idea . . .

 

If you have 60 minutes, here is a very well articulated presentation on the topic of EVs.

AVM

A B-52 bomber burns nearly a full load of fuel flying 10,000kM. Roughly 120 long tons of jet fuel, which would create/emit about 370 metric tons of CO2 (roughly 1200 long tons of CO2 emissions)."

There is no need for another thread discussing EVs so its merged with the long standing one where both sides have their say. Too long, not going to watch. How about summarizing it?

BTW, this B52 discussion is old. This is the new so, there's that

12/13/24

 

Every piece of polarizing legislation has someone or some group on the other end feeling like their rights or their choices were diminished. Electric cars are no exception. Just as Mark Mills presents a logical explanation as to how inefficient the current model is. There will also be counter explanations by people supporting the end goal of societal electrification. Most on either side are monetized and behind them are interest, groups, lobbyist, and politicians. It’s like arm wrestling.

I have always felt that the individual should be given a choice. There’s nothing wrong with electric vehicles if a person wants them, and I even feel that some people might warm up to having one in a household if they weren’t hoisted upon them in such a way. What I think doesn’t really matter though. Every person has one vote and those add up and we end up where we are now. Add to the fact that a person living in the USA is buying a European car and the subject to their legislation in terms of what type of car he might receive.

A person can still go out and buy a Corvette . Mustang, Challenger, or any other pure ice sports car or muscle car. In fact, I’ve been looking at the Corvette Z06 for over a year now. The ZR1 just came out with 1000 hp. It’s almost like the opposite extreme of the Tesla plaid . These are manufacturers, battling it out for their survival of the desired legislative engine choices.

At some point, the public is going to get a chance to decide. The problem with that is that the campaign literature of each region hits the masses and they don’t really take the time to evaluate much. I don’t wanna call people stupid but they are perhaps lazy. Especially if they have no interest in cars.

I’m not sure which way this is gonna end up. I’m very disappointed about losing ice cars. I don’t hate electric cars, but I I don’t see myself spending $100,000 on one. That might be the driving force in the end. People will decide with their wallets what they’re ready to pay for.

 

Every piece of polarizing legislation has someone or some group on the other end feeling like their rights or their choices were diminished. Electric cars are no exception. Just as Mark Mills presents a logical explanation as to how inefficient the current model is. There will also be counter explanations by people supporting the end goal of societal electrification. Most on either side are monetized and behind them are interest, groups, lobbyist, and politicians. It’s like arm wrestling.

I have always felt that the individual should be given a choice. There’s nothing wrong with electric vehicles if a person wants them, and I even feel that some people might warm up to having one in a household if they weren’t hoisted upon them in such a way. What I think doesn’t really matter though. Every person has one vote and those add up and we end up where we are now. Add to the fact that a person living in the USA is buying a European car and the subject to their legislation in terms of what type of car he might receive.

A person can still go out and buy a Corvette . Mustang, Challenger, or any other pure ice sports car or muscle car. In fact, I’ve been looking at the Corvette Z06 for over a year now. The ZR1 just came out with 1000 hp. It’s almost like the opposite extreme of the Tesla plaid . These are manufacturers, battling it out for their survival of the desired legislative engine choices.

At some point, the public is going to get a chance to decide. The problem with that is that the campaign literature of each region hits the masses and they don’t really take the time to evaluate much. I don’t wanna call people stupid but they are perhaps lazy. Especially if they have no interest in cars.

I’m not sure which way this is gonna end up. I’m very disappointed about losing ice cars. I don’t hate electric cars, but I I don’t see myself spending $100,000 on one. That might be the driving force in the end. People will decide with their wallets what they’re ready to pay for.

Remember these words . . . first [they] incentivize you to adhere to [their] narrative, then [they] penalize you for not adhering to [their] narrative.

If people are told a lie long enough they start to believe that lie . . . and become incapable of recognizing the truth when presented to them.

AVM

 

This guy is very sharp, I've been saying most of his talking points for a years now. The problem is that we have too many virtue signalers roaming around (usually a result of no getting enough love as children)

 

I'll never buy an EV, but there's nothing wrong with them (except for the lives that are destroyed by China thru the mining of the minerals that go into the batteries). Let people decide what they want to buy and stop the government from ramming things down our throats. Organizations around the world are on a quest to eliminate the automotive industry and outsource it, along with all our energy devices, to China.

 

So of all I go to get take out and there is a college student who works who loves my black car but kept insisting that I see his fathers BMW i4 . Two of the other restaurant workers voiced that three loved the i4 when he showed them . Today he said "I have my dad's car . Do you want too see bit ? " He looked so eager and I started out by saying : you know I am not an EV fan , but I will, look . "

We get out to the car . On the exterior it looks like any other 4 door 4 series . I asked to see the inside . I get in the passenger seat . It feels very BMW . He gets in and I asked him to star it up. He says " the car is already on ." LOL . I forget for a moment that there is no sound . I asked him " dont you have not having sound. ?" His reply was " I love music and without sound I can appreciate it more . " I didnt ask to hearthe radio and he offered to drive it and show me .

He pulls out and the torque is instant . It does feel heavy enough for me to ask . He asked Siri and its as much as a Macan (in a sedan ) . Torque is instant 0-60 is 3.5 so this is in line with a Carrera S . However he pulled onto a highway and punched it on a roll and the car lets off at the top . It has a choice of regenerative braking and he showed me a demo of both modes . BMW made regenerative feel almost like downshifting . It was impressive compared to Tesla which was so abrupt . The road noise of the soundless engine and run flat tires is bad.

He answered all of my questions (nice kid ) . I asked if he worries about losing charge . He said it plugs it in each night even though he has plenty of range (300 miles ) . He said he doesnt worry about rain (waterproof charger ) . He also said that his father wants a Targa . the family uses a Volvo SUV for long trips , and that this car is more for getting around town as a daily .

The car can park itself but he said he never uses it. We got out of the car and I asked him doesnt he lock the car ? He said it automatically shuts off when he leaves his seat and locks when the key is further way .

It was an interesting generational dialogue .

In my afterthoughts I just feel like something is missing . I was impressed more than I thought I would be but cant see myself falling in love with it. I think back to the days when I ran home to get my checkbook because the car was that red hot that I wanted it TODAY !!! I do miss some of that .

 

So of all I go to get take out and there is a college student who works who loves my black car but kept insisting that I see his fathers BMW i4 . Two of the other restaurant workers voiced that three loved the i4 when he showed them . Today he said "I have my dad's car . Do you want too see bit ? " He looked so eager and I started out by saying : you know I am not an EV fan , but I will, look . "

We get out to the car . On the exterior it looks like any other 4 door 4 series . I asked to see the inside . I get in the passenger seat . It feels very BMW . He gets in and I asked him to star it up. He says " the car is already on ." LOL . I forget for a moment that there is no sound . I asked him " dont you have not having sound. ?" His reply was " I love music and without sound I can appreciate it more . " I didnt ask to hearthe radio and he offered to drive it and show me .

He pulls out and the torque is instant . It does feel heavy enough for me to ask . He asked Siri and its as much as a Macan (in a sedan ) . Torque is instant 0-60 is 3.5 so this is in line with a Carrera S . However he pulled onto a highway and punched it on a roll and the car lets off at the top . It has a choice of regenerative braking and he showed me a demo of both modes . BMW made regenerative feel almost like downshifting . It was impressive compared to Tesla which was so abrupt . The road noise of the soundless engine and run flat tires is bad.

He answered all of my questions (nice kid ) . I asked if he worries about losing charge . He said it plugs it in each night even though he has plenty of range (300 miles ) . He said he doesnt worry about rain (waterproof charger ) . He also said that his father wants a Targa . the family uses a Volvo SUV for long trips , and that this car is more for getting around town as a daily .

The car can park itself but he said he never uses it. We got out of the car and I asked him doesnt he lock the car ? He said it automatically shuts off when he leaves his seat and locks when the key is further way .

It was an interesting generational dialogue .

In my afterthoughts I just feel like something is missing . I was impressed more than I thought I would be but cant see myself falling in love with it. I think back to the days when I ran home to get my checkbook because the car was that red hot that I wanted it TODAY !!! I do miss some of that .

It sounds like my new dryer.

• Its quiet for a dryer and has the normal cycles on the dial like heavy, permanent press, and delicate. But it can also download maybe 20 other cycles.
• I can view how many minutes left on my ipad and it will alert me when done.
• It will continue to spin clothes so they dont wrinkle and it warns me to clean the lint trap.
• Better yet I can remotely control it outside the house, and it will start and stop while Im not there.
• It reports the different cycles used and energy expended.
• Tell it your electric company and for some it will report how much doing a wash cost you

This is the world of appliances.

Do I give a about any of this? No, its an appliance. Throw the clothes in, hit the button, and get them out when done

 

They ran the i4 M50 against an M3 . Look at how close my guestimates were . I guessed 0- 60 super fast 3.5 (actual is 3.7) . I noticed it let off at the higher speeds . In contrasty my black modded 911 turbo hurls you into the next gear with full force and if snoozing wil blow right through the ev limiter .

He re the EV vs M3 at the only comparison there could ve .. straight line (on a track the EV would die quickly I imagine )

 

What do you think China calls those things we drive and drool over? “Transportation Appliances”.

 

I'm a long time Porsche nut. I have had my 1973 911 for over 35 years. My 1967 912 for 10 years. My 2000 Boxster S for 22 years. I had a 356 for many years - but still have all the others. My sons have an S2000 and Civic Type R. ALL the cars have been on the track. We also race karts and have a 1961 historic Elva race car. ICE is in our blood.

And yes, when Porsche first started making SUVs, I thought it was sacrilegious.

We just bought a new Macan 4 electric, and I have to say I love it. We have tried all the electric cars, and were actually looking for a plug in hybrid. But the Macan transcended all of them. Yes, it's not a light tossable sports car. And I will say, I do not like the Taycan. To me, unlike the Macan EV, the Tacan claims to be a sports car and I yet I feel like I'm driving a station wagon sled, and it can never be one of my other Porsches.

But the Macan is a totally different driving experience. So smooth. So powerful. Everything is well designed out. We did not buy it to save the world. I don't think it is a sports car really. Instead, we bought it because for what it is, we think it is a whole new driving experience that is better than an ICE in many ways (though certainly not all ways). Perhaps ICE Macans meet a need for others who don't have the other Porsches that we have. But since we already have those, this really is fantastic.

And I have to acknowledge the first Porsche cars were in fact electric (Lohner). So perhaps not so sacrilegious.

 

I'm a long time Porsche nut. I have had my 1973 911 for over 35 years. My 1967 912 for 10 years. My 2000 Boxster S for 22 years. I had a 356 for many years - but still have all the others. My sons have an S2000 and Civic Type R. ALL the cars have been on the track. We also race karts and have a 1961 historic Elva race car. ICE is in our blood.

And yes, when Porsche first started making SUVs, I thought it was sacrilegious.

We just bought a new Macan 4 electric, and I have to say I love it. We have tried all the electric cars, and were actually looking for a plug in hybrid. But the Macan transcended all of them. Yes, it's not a light tossable sports car. And I will say, I do not like the Taycan. To me, unlike the Macan EV, the Tacan claims to be a sports car and I yet I feel like I'm driving a station wagon sled, and it can never be one of my other Porsches.

But the Macan is a totally different driving experience. So smooth. So powerful. Everything is well designed out. We did not buy it to save the world. I don't think it is a sports car really. Instead, we bought it because for what it is, we think it is a whole new driving experience that is better than an ICE in many ways (though certainly not all ways). Perhaps ICE Macans meet a need for others who don't have the other Porsches that we have. But since we already have those, this really is fantastic.

And I have to acknowledge the first Porsche cars were in fact electric (Lohner). So perhaps not so sacrilegious.

if you had to pick one car for your house and you can only have one, would it be this one?

 

I think my main point is that I see EVs get a lot of negative comments. I actually agree with many of them. But at the same time, from a driving experience, this is no glorified golf cart. It is no utilitarian bland form of transportation from A to B. It truly takes an electric motor and uses its advantages to create a fantastic car ... for what it is. And it deserves praise.

Moreover, it is full of Porsche DNA.

And another thought on if this was our only car, when we bought it, a guy bought a GT3RS, and they were parked side by side. I spoke to the buyer and his young kids. Truth be told, the kids liked my 912 better (it's the red one in the picture above). Ha. But the other point is that that GT3RS was not his only car either. Porsche doesn't necessarily sell cars to be an only car. So if I'm going to own an SUV, why the heck not make it a Porsche, and in this case, with what an EV does offer.

 

Some of the negativity results from the understanding that the ice version of some models is being phased out and replaced by EV. Not everyone needs to love both ice and EV. If both forms exist going forward (there may be hope) the negativity should be reduced.

 

And there is this ...

Volkswagen-Konzern - Datenleck: Wir wissen, wo dein Auto steht

VW hat mit einer neuen Blamage zu kämpfen. Bewegungsdaten von 800.000 E-Autos sowie Kontaktinformationen zu den Besitzern standen ungeschützt im Netz. Sichtbar war, wer wann zu Hause parkt, beim BND oder vor dem Bordell. Die SPIEGEL-Recherche.

www-spiegel-de.translate.goog

Dont worry, its translated

We know where your car is

Precise GPS tracking data for 800K EVs VW, Seat, Audis, and Skoda including contact info exposed.

Sure, buy a rolling smart phone on wheels

 

Very complex subject that can be debated for a long time. I'm not sure who's ideal it was for the US to have an all electric economy after building a oil and gas economy for over 120 years now. What took 120 years to build with oil and gas, they think an electric economy can be built in 15 years and I think they are dead wrong. Just like @grim said using refrigerants as an example, electric technology will change just as fast and be outdated every 5 years as they build into the future.

And yet the modern internal combustion engine is so clean now that it's ridiculous to compare the total amount of pollution and environmental damage compared to making EV cars, and the amount of natural resources and low skill human labor needed to harvest the minerals needed to construct EV cars. The proof is here now that the ICE engine can almost run on anything and is very reliable and durable, yet the other side of the argument refuses to hear the point.

The kids got brainwashed in school, thinking that a car runs on electricity, and once again trading nuclear or oil and gas produced energy into electricity is not the prime goal. I live in Orange County CA and you wouldn't believe how many Tesla cars are here driven by the younger generation, and they can't drive either, no clue. They can't even change a flat tire and call their parents to do it. Wish I can blame the parents of these kids for brainwashing as well, but I'm not sure where this info comes from.

I might buy an electric car soon, one of those Ford Mach E Rally or GT if they get better or if the price drops more. Just to drive around town like to Walmart or whatever. I don't like driving the Porsche to Walmart or the Grocery store, just feels weird. If I don't I'll look for an ICE car that is fun to drive and buy more gas.

One day, electricity will cost more than Gasoline.

 

One day, electricity will cost more than Gasoline.

^^^^

Take this to the bank. They know exactly how much they can charge.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5062541-tesla-cybertruck-las-vegas-trump/

In a later post, he said they had confirmed the explosion was caused by “very large fireworks and/or a bomb carried in the bed of the rented Cybertruck and is unrelated to the vehicle itself.”

Although this could be an isolated incident, but it does raise concern with potential explosion that can be much more destructive on EV!

 

Although this could be an isolated incident, but it does raise concern with potential explosion that can be much more destructive on EV!

Not associated with being an EV, and, if fact, the cybertruck directed the blast upward

 

 

 

Porsche's EV sales took a hit last year, but the electric Macan sparks hope

Although sales of Porsche’s first EV, the Taycan, fell nearly 50% in 2024, things could be looking up for the...

electrek.co

Porsche delivered over 310,700 vehicles globally last year, or about 9,500 less than in 2023. Sales in China led the downfall, plunging 28% from the prior year amid a wave of low-cost domestic EVs entering the market.

Porsche sold 2,771 electric Macan SUVs in the US last year. On a call with reporters (via Automotive News), the company’s North American CEO, Timo Resch, said, “A lot of the consumers that come into the Macan Electric are [new to the] brand.”

I’m not here to say the electric Macan will be Porsche’s savior, but the strong sales start is promising. Porsche has already backtracked on plans for 80% of deliveries to be electric by 2030.

According to recent reports, the electric Cayenne, due out in 2026, could be delayed depending on market demand. The upcoming 718 Cayman and Boxster EVs could also face delays as Porsche plans to keep gas and hybrid models alive longer than expected.