I didn't use wheel spacers but I have 19" wheels.

You are right! No snow here, not even much rain. LOL

 

No wheel spacers with the 21-inch wheels. After a year with the H&R springs, we still love 'em. Really improves the look and the ride. Changes the CUV into a SportUV.

 

On good roads it is sublime for an SUV, but on crappy roads the ride suffers quite a bit.

 

I agree with this.

 

That is not our experience. The ride comfort does not seem to suffer at all on good surface or bad, compared to the base suspension. I still feel it is on the soft side, but we have been driving an AMG for the past three years, our perspective may be different.

It does make the Macan look the right height and right wheel gap, not just the size of the gap, but the contour with the tires.

This claim maybe BS, but when I spoke to a senior SA at the dealer, he explained Porsche, like other manufactures, must meet certain headlight height and other height requirements to qualify Macan as an SUV. He seemed to imply Porsche designed Macan to be lower with smaller wheel gap but had to raise it due to government regulations.

 

This claim maybe BS, but when I spoke to a senior SA at the dealer, he explained Porsche, like other manufactures, must meet certain headlight height and other height requirements to qualify Macan as an SUV. He seemed to imply Porsche designed Macan to be lower with smaller wheel gap but had to raise it due to government regulations.

I feel confident in saying that this is just another example of an SA spreading misinformation.

This one is very easy to prove. If the information was correct, then how is it that Porsche sells the GTS and PP as well as other AS equipped Macans with a lower height?

No doubt many SA’s think they are being helpful in situations like this, but we would all be better off if they would just stick to the facts instead of speculating.

 

Like you mentioned, i'm one of them who is thinking about lowering my Macan base 2.0t. That was a great post, it helped me a lot, i'm definitely going to get the H&R spring installed now.
But i do have a question, when i contacted my local car shops about install lowering springs and they told me that the lowering spring will mess up the OEM shocks, which they suggest me to purchase a new set of shocks too. I'm not sure whether that's the case or not, are they just trying to get money out of my pocket? or they are reasonable about getting a customized shocks just for the lowered springs too. Can anyone reply and let me know?

 

.....when i contacted my local car shops about install lowering springs and they told me that the lowering spring will mess up the OEM shocks....

There are many members here who've installed the H&R lowering springs. None to my knowledge have reported replacing the shocks.

The only other modification I can recall to go along with the spring install is trimming of the rubber travel stops, so the suspension doesn't bottom out too soon. See the following thread regarding rough ride issues.....

https://www.macanforum.com/forum/wheels-tires-suspension/154674-h-r-spring-rough-tide-fix.html

 

I went with Bilstein coilovers and H&R springs because of my concern about a harsh ride and I wanted the dampening adjustability that comes with the Bilsteins. Opinions on the ride quality with the H&R springs is quite diverse. My purchase of my S was darn near an impulse buy, very little research and honestly I overlooked the wheel gap. I should have bought a car equipped with air shocks because after I had the car for a few days the wheel gap is all that I noticed. Going with the coilover set up was less expensive than taking a hit on trading for an air sprung Macan.

With the lowering springs, you are shortening the stroke of the shock and it does not return to fully extended, thus the shocks are not functioning as designed for the application. Whether that makes any difference or not, I do not know. Plenty of people have changed springs without changing the shocks and are satisfied. Since I was uncertain about some of these concerns and did not want to regret the decision, I went with the Bilstein set up and like it a lot. I was in a loaner recently with steel springs and it reaffirmed my decision. The lowered ride is definitely more like a sports sedan instead of a SUV.

 

I went with Bilstein coilovers and H&R springs

So your set up is HR springs + Coilover shocks? COrrect?

 

H&R spring/shock kit is also available that cost twice as the springs only kit, don't know how much more is the labor cost.

Most of us do springs only, but then some people complain about harsh ride on bumpy road. Don't know if the spring/shock kit would address this issue.

 

With 1.5" lowering on the H&R springs, it is like you load up the car to the extent that it drops 1.5".

I think the original design for the full load is like 2-2.5" lower, so it is within the design limits but the ride may be affected somewhat, unless you do the full load on the lowering springs then you will likely to bottom out easily.

 

level sensors

Did any of you bothered with links for level sensors? What are they for on cars with regular suspension?

 

Did any of you bothered with links for level sensors? What are they for on cars with regular suspension?

I've not read anything regarding level sensor links on the standard suspension. If they're there, not sure what they'd be used for other than feedback for PASM and PSM.

 

I know there are a few similar threads on this topic but I can't seem to find a good answer to my question. Just picked up a Macan S with the base suspension (no PASM), but 21" wheels.

Does the Macan sit at a slightly different height if it has PSAM? Can anyone help with clear side shots of a similar setup to mine on H&R/TechArt vs Eibach springs? I've found several pics with H&R but only one shot of an Eibach setup on the internet. It never seems to be clear if the cars are with or without PSAM in the pics as well.

I've heard various answers on the drop with the TechArt springs, but believe it may be 40mm. The TechArts are also double the price of the others and everyone says they are just re-branded Eibach with a different spec. Can anyone confirm they are worth the difference in price?

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

....Does the Macan sit at a slightly different height if it has PSAM?....

I've not seen anything to indicate there is any difference in ride height between PASM and non-PASM. Just be sure when you buy lowering springs, they are for a non-PASM application.

The vast majority of folks here have used H&R springs. Eibach seems to be a little late to the party.....but perhaps its time has come.

 

How much do you want to drop it ?

 

H&R drops 1.5”. Eibach drops 1”. Not sure about TechArt.

Suggest to drop 1”. No need to go for anything more expensive than H&R or Eibach. All are good quality springs.

 

https://www.macanforum.com/forum/wheels-tires-suspension/168459-gts-ride-height.html

 

Thanks, this was a really good reference!

 

If anyone is interested in a set of H&R springs with PASM, hit me up ASAP. We sent some to a customer who thought he had steel springs but had air suspension. As you can imagine, they aren't cheap to ship so I can knock off some if you're willing to take them (still new in box). Thought it might be a win-win for someone in the market and ready to go.

 

What's a decent price to pay an indy shop to ins all H&R springs?

 

Not cheap around $1000.

 

Jesus... The springs r only $300ish. Is this worth it to u guys??

 

I would have got AS if I knew beforehand. AS is a $1400 option.

 

anyone pay $1300 or more for the installation of the springs + an alignment?

 

Here's an update for anyone who's interested:

https://www.macanforum.com/forum/wheels-tires-suspension/168459-gts-ride-height-7.html

 

1" drop isn't enough for me... I would do 2.5 - 3.

Anyone make that?

 

I can lower my Turbo as much as 55mm with my Cete Module, which is roughly 2.2 inches.

Looks good when parked, but I would not drive at that level for any significant distance. Ride is way too hard and I'm afraid of damaging AS or other suspension components.

 

So tire rack has an option that will drop 0-3"

That will work for me.

a stock 911 has 109mm clearance, stock Macan S is 182 so if I drop 3" that would make the car sit a little lower than a 911. That would be amazing... So now I have a goal for next years tax refund...

 

Macan rides lower than 911 makes it eligible for super lowriders competition.

 

The best thing about the air suspension is that you can lift it up again if you need to.

Mac is already really low for a crossover/wagon, I wouldn't spend money lowering it if you can't reverse it with a flip of the switch.

Don't be THAT guy crawling over a speedbump or high centered trying to get into a parking garage.

 

Hi all!

Have read all 11 pages on this thread many times. I am about to pull the trigger on the KW kit for my '16 Macan Turbo.

Anything new for 2019? Who is your preferred online source? Other tips to insure an optimized experience?

Am psyched....

 

That is nice subtle drop.! Any updates on drivability after a few months of use.?

 

Still similar to my first impressions. I'd say it's better than the original springs overall, but wish I had PSAM. On longer highway drives I start to notice the chatter of the tires skipping around over bumps in the road, but that comes with territory of the 21" wheels. Again, better than stock still. I do sometimes think the drop with H&R might have looked better, but this is good enough while still keeping a little more ground clearance.

 

Now if only Eibach had springs for mine with PASM :facepalm:
I guess H&R or Techart's are my only options.