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DIY - 40K mile PDK service

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#1 · (Edited)
The owners manual calls for a change of the transmission oil every 40K. I had the dealer do it at 40K and I just completed the 80K. It is not that hard. You just need a few things. You do not have to drop the pan. The filter is located next to the pan.

Material needed - confirmed by check my bill when the dealer did this
1-7 L of G-052-529-A2 fluid (Can get Febi for $11/L all the way to $30/L for the OEM VW fluid) - there is no Porsche branded fluid
2-0B5-325-330-A - filter ($11 to $33 dollars depending on brand)
3-WHT-005-449-A (O-ring for filter housing)

WARNING - I do not have air suspension. If you do, you need to switch it off before or something before you put the car in the air.
 
#129 ·
I'm looking at what parts are needed & found that several different suppliers have different number of parts
I may buy the parts & have an indy do the work (I think Porsche would charge me $1,000 or more)

From this thread it seems I only need 3 parts:

Filter Audi 2-0B5-325-330-A
O-ring for filter housing WHT-005-449-A
7 L of G-052-529-A2 fluid (Or Febi or VW fluid)

I found these kits at these suppliers:

Suncoast: $279.00 (fluid + 3 parts)
Comes with the following pieces:
- PDK Filter 
- PDK Filter O-Ring 
- PDK Drain Plug O-Ring 
- 7 Liters of PDK Clutch Oil
For Macan, Macan S, Macan GTS, & Macan Turbo models, 2014-2022.
Fluid Note: 6.5 liters required for maintenance changes, 7 liters required for replacement PDK transmission

FCP Euro: $311.93 (fluid + 6 parts)
(I doubt I need 15 new bolts! Even though they are cheap)

Kit includes:

Auto Dual Clutch Trans Filter O-Ring VHG – WHT003379 genuine VW Audi $.89

Auto dual clutch trans oil pan gasket ELR – 451351 $19.59

Dual clutch trans fluid PEN– 1080107 ×7 $243.53

Auto dual clutch trans oil pan bolt VAG – N91096801 ×15 genuine VW Audi $14.85

Auto dual clutch trans filter FEB – 102142 $21.59

Drain plug gasket FIS – 1006748 $0.09

Auto dual clutch trans filter VNE – 7003002 $11.39

This is the most complete PDK transmission service kit you will find. It includes all of the filters, gaskets, hardware, and fluid needed to properly maintain your PDK transmission. Porsche recommends a 40,000 mile service interval for this transmission.


Blau Parts: $229.95 (fluid + 5 parts)

BLAU Porsche Macan PDK Transmission Fluid Filter Change Kit Includes:
7 Liters of Eurol DCF 1404 Fully Synthetic Dual Clutch Fluid developed and engineered for the Porsche Macan 7-speed PDK transmission. Meets or exceeds the G 052 529 A2 PDK fluid quality specification recommended for use in Porsche Macan 7-speed PDK transmissions. Adequate quantity of fluid for a filter and fluid change. Amber tinted fluid color. See the Related Helpful Info tab for fill capacity notes.
1 PDK transmission valve body filter with valve body seal
1 PDK external transmission filter and O-ring
1 PDK filter to valve body O-ring
1 PDK transmission pan gasket
1 PDK transmission pan drain plug sealing washer


Maybe difference is mainly FCP Euro & Blau also include the internal filter?
 
#130 · (Edited)
Yes, the difference is whether the internal filter and its filter-to-valve-body O-ring is included, but also the pan gasket (as the pan must be removed to change the internal filter). Some also include new pan screws, but this seems unnecessary to me, as these are steel screws, not the weaker aluminum type that are sometimes used for other transmission types.

I recommend that the internal filter also be replaced, but that will require that the cross-brace be removed to access the pan. The pan should also be cleaned-out, including cleaning of the pan magnets. Reinstallation of the cross-brace will require 6 new bolts, as these cross-brace bolts are one-time-use (torque to yield).
Warning: the cross-brace can only be removed (and installed) with NO VEHICLE WEIGHT on the front wheels.

Cross-brace bolts 034Motorsport - 034-603-Z006 - X-Brace Stretch Bolt Subframe Hardware Kit (ecstuning.com)
 
#131 ·
As I prepare to pay (someone) for PDK service, I called the Porsche Chandler dealer, far from me, to ask the Service Dept. what the cost is for PDK service alone. (Not a 40K mile service with other things)
Reply ~ $1,000. ($950-1,000)

I asked if they replace just the external filter or both internal & external. He said 1 filter. I asked him to check on the cost if they were to replace both filters.

I got a call ½ hr. later after SA checked with his techs.

I was shocked by the reply!

He said there is no internal filter! LOLOL

I explained that there are different suppliers such as Suncoast, FCP Euro and others & some sell one filter in their PDK kit and others sell 2 filters plus the gasket for dropping the pan. I said there is a thread on the Macan Forum where people detail replacing just the external filter as well as replacing both internal and external filters.

He said well, there may be some aftermarket parts but, if there is an internal filter, that is not a user serviceable part.
(but, it certainly should be a Porsche technician serviceable part!)

Wow.
 
#133 ·
But, he didn't say: "We do not replace the internal filter, it is not required or recommended by Porsche."
He claimed, after consulting with his technicians, there is no internal PDK filter!
 
#134 ·
Thought I'd add some info here, and thanks to @c3uo for the hose tip, I used that but modified it (originally because my hose was too curled up, but it worked nicely enough to share). Note I only changed the external filter. I would agree this is more straightforward and easy than I expected.

I used about 27" of 1/2" OD vinyl tubing (30" would have given a little more slack to the funnel placement), and used twist ties to secure it to a 3/8" wooden dowel I had lying around. This helped because it kept the hose away from the exhaust and made it more secure in the fill hole. Couple of images with a yardstick to give a sense of how much I used and where I secured it. I didn't take a picture, but I inserted it between the coolant reservoir and cross member, and the end of the dowl rested on the lower suspension frame about parallel to the fill plug.




I also got a $5.00 2 gallon measuring bucket @ Home Depot (in paint supplies) that had the gradation markings on it, useful.




One interesting note was I couldn't fill with as much as I removed. I caught the fluid from the external filter and the drain pan, and ended up just shy of 5 liters drained (almost no spillage, which for me is amazing), HOWEVER, I could only get about 4.75 liters back in (using the X431 to monitor temps, shifting into D and R often, etc.). I did let the pan drain about 45 mins while I was doing something else, maybe the factory fill is a bit more than can be done on refill?

Second note, the wifey was my pourer while I monitored from below, this was the first time she has serviced her own vehicle! No pics of the historic moment though :) .

Third note, every fill kit and guide says 7 liters needed, but most every first hand experience seems to not get over 5. Now I have 2 Liters of Motul DCTF that I won't need for quite some time, might try to return, or maybe sell...
 
#136 · (Edited)
I just did my fluid and external filter with Porsche oem fluid and Audi OEM filter at 60k miles, last change was supposedly at 40k 4 yrs ago. The fluid was very very dark (like the PO dealer never changed it even though they did the 40k service). After I changed it, the shift immediately felt smoother and my mpg improved. Over the wknd I did a 26 hr drive from SD to Middle of Missouri, and averaged 22.7mpg! 1.5 years back, I did a similar cross country drive to FL and only got 20.9 mpg. Overall I am happy with the DIY fluid change. I used a cheap gear oil pump instead of filling from top with long hose method, I think it was faster and easier if you are doing it by yourself! Also one tip, when you crack open the fill plug, don’t take it out completely like I did. These are usually overfilled and I made a big mess taking the fill plug out first! Other than that, just make sure you got a mechanics gloves cuz the exhaust next to the plug gets hot, while waiting for final hot fill!
 
#140 ·
Did the DIY’ers on this thread calibrate the PDK after the fluid change? Is the calibration included if done by the dealer’s service department or an independent shop?
 
#144 ·
Did the PDK Fluid replacement tonight on my wife's 2018 Macan base with 47K miles on the clock. Overall it was a very easy job. I got everything I needed from Pelican Parts a couple months back but hadn't had time yet to do the service. All of the videos I've watched were on 6 cylinder cars so I was a little surprised when I didn't see a heat shield or the exhaust on the side of the PDK housing but it immediately dawned on me as to why. It certainly made the fluid change a lot easier though since there was no hot exhaust pipe to get in the way while waiting for the PDK fluid to reach 40c/104F for the final fill to spill while at temperature. The QJ 7000TL also made the job very easy too.

A few things that made the job especially easy was having a catch bucket of an appropriate size for the job. I bought a 7 gallon storage bin a while ago to use as a catch bucket. I use this when I change the oil in my 2018 RAM 2500 diesel because that holds 3 gallons of oil. The 7 gallon size is plenty big. It catches the fluid from the drain plug, the fill plug, and the filter housing all at the same time if you position it right. A 17mm ratcheting wrench fits the filter housing much better than a 17mm socket so even if you just buy that one wrench it's worth it. But as inexpensive as a whole set is from Harbor Freight just buy the whole set. The other thing that I did to make the job easier was I left all of the liter jugs of PDK fluid in the cardboard box they were shipped in so they acted as one large container of PDK fluid instead of six individual liter jugs that would be prone to tipping over while trying to pump the fluid out if you're using a small hand operated fluid pump. I left the empty bottles in the box when I filled them back up with the old fluid so they wouldn't tip over also. I ended up with 5 liters out and 5 liters back in. I was able to connect my iCarSoft Pro to the OBDII port, start the car, run through the gears, get back under the car, and monitor the fluid temperature myself while waiting for the fluid to reach 40c/104F so I could do the final fill to spill because the cord is plenty long enough. Once the fluid hit the proper temp and I did the final fill I just pulled the hose out of the fill hole and put the fill plug back in and torqued it to spec. I crawled out from under the car and turned it off. I wiped everything down with a rag and put the underbody panel back on, lowered it off the QJ, and took it for a drive. The shifts were very smooth in automatic, in manual PDK mode, and Sport mode.

Just want to thank everyone who has posted their efforts on doing the PDK fluid change. I may not have attempted this without seeing everyone else's successes. Between this forum, YouTube, Pelican Parts, and others etc. I felt plenty confident doing it and in comparison to a regular oil change it was on about the same level. I may even do the next one sooner than 40K based on how dirty the fluid was on this one.
 
#159 ·
Can you bet your life that you didn't lose any fluid throughout the 40K of driving? If yes, then you certainly can, but then again how do you effectively measure what is in the filter, I guess you can dip the new filter in oil so it is all wet too. In general you want to reduce the number of unknowns in any equation, say you start having PDK related issue later, are you going to pull your hair and wonder if your measurement was incorrect and that is the culprit or was it something totally different?