[BatuKMan]

The Citroën DS from 1955 was the first production car to have a hydro-pneumatic suspension, even today they have a modern version in production on their C5.
Although from a different era it provided super comfortable ride, and even if one had a puncture it would simply pull that wheel up and keep riding
Here is a link of a commercial video of the GS model which appeared later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfbIdAT34fc

One disadvantage of this system was the maintenance cost, when it went wrong (which it did) boy it was expensive to repair.

 

[pwynn]

I completely disagree with these assumptions. There are a lot of Porschephiles who choose Porsche vehicles specifically because of the the driving/quality characteristics of Porsche vehicles vis a vis other brands. Given the price/performance characteristics, Porsche occupies it's own category slightly above other German brands yet below higher end/cost ultra-luxury/ultra-sport brands.

Most of the people here who argue against A/S aren't doing it out of spite or jealousy. Actually they aren't arguing against A/S at all. Most people recognize the benefits that A/S brings yet prefer the characteristics of non A/S vehicle because it provides a more connected Porsche driving characteristic. A/S inherently numbs, to a certain extent, the driving feel of vehicle. It's just the nature of the technology. It's not a question of if one is better then the other since everyone has a different set of preferences which stem from a different set of baselines.

The other reason forum members have been arguing passionately on this issue is because, as stated earlier by @fantom and @grim , people are tired with the constant AS sales pitch in numerous other threads.

PS. It's quite a stretch and quite offensive to state that people didn't choose A/S because they can't afford it (too expensive). How can you claim to know about the financial resources of anyone. I have an $83k Macan S build that doesn't include A/S or PASM.

Fact is we talk about AS on the Macan and not what some Porsche purists may think about AS on other Porsche cars.

For the average Macan buyer AS is a major improvement over the PASM/Steel combo.
Your arguments against AS on the Macan hold no water so i did assume there must be other reasons 0

 

[Buckfever]

I just hope the GTS comes in steel suspension and an inch lower so that there can be 500 pages of vigorous purely anecdotal forum fodder. Surely heads will explode.>

 

[macan282]

I just hope the GTS comes in steel suspension and an inch lower so that there can be 500 pages of vigorous purely anecdotal forum fodder. Surely heads will explode.

Can't wait to see that!!! Dare I start another hot topic ..... To pano or not to pano??

 

[MotorCityMacan]

Agree 100%. The constant AS sales pitch is what annoys the **** out of me and ruins this forum experience.


Normal conversation:

Person 1: I like blue cars.
Person 2: I like red cars.
Person 3: I like blue cars also.
Person 4: I like both blue and red cars.


Macan forum conversation:
Person 1: I like blue cars.
Person 2: Blue doesn't make the car look sporty. The car designers developed the red to maximize the sportiness.
Person 3: I like red cars.
Person 2: Exactly! Red cars are the best. The other colors were only created to give options, but red is proven to improve the aerodynamics and handling.
Person 4: I think both red and blue cars look good.
Person 2: Yes, the blue cars have their purpose. But as I said before, red cars give the best of both worlds. They look both sporty and classy.

The other reason forum members have been arguing passionately on this issue is because, as stated earlier by @fantom and @grim, people are tired with the constant AS sales pitch in numerous other threads.

 

[Wintermute]

I guarantee this will be the last thread on this topic. Others will be merged or deleted.

So let it all out.

 

[Nylon]

Fact is we talk about AS on the Macan and not what some Porsche purists may think about AS on other Porsche cars.

For the average Macan buyer AS is a major improvement over the PASM/Steel combo.
Your arguments against AS on the Macan hold no water so i did assume there must be other reasons 0

It's generally a good idea not to make assumptions on what others preferences are or generalize. And your assumptions are rather childish.

 

[Wintermute]

I totally concur.

And Nylon refers to my younger years when I flew back and forth between NY and London far too often.

Concorde ? Please say yes. . .

 

[Raneleigh]

This sums it up perfectly!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlRZkPSdrH4

 

[pwynn]

It's generally a good idea not to make assumptions on what others preferences are or generalize. And your assumptions are rather childish.

My assumptions are as valid as your non existant arguments why AS is a bad choice for the average Macan buyer.

With purists like you Porsche would probably have ceased to exist as a brand for years already.

And if you want to take a Macan to the track it would have been wise to order a Macan Turbo.

But you are the beholder of all wisdom, right?

 

[Nylon]

My assumptions are as valid as your non existant arguments why AS is a bad choice for the average Macan buyer.

With purists like you Porsche would probably have ceased to exist as a brand for years already.

Who said anything about A/S being a bad choice. Why are you putting words in my mouth. You and another individual fail to understand nuance. As stated before it's a matter preference.

 

[Nylon]

Concorde ? Please say yes. . .

Only a couple of times. Those were the days when flying was better then getting on a bus.

 

[Raneleigh]

Only a couple of times. Those were the days when flying was better then getting on a bus.

That was one badass plane!

 

[macan282]

Only a couple of times. Those were the days when flying was better then getting on a bus.

That was one badass plane!

I think those wheels have AS for better landing and take off dynamics , steel springs will take the plane off the track when drifting on the runway to bank a hard right into the gate for arrival at Heathrow

 

[pwynn]

Who said anything about A/S being a bad choice. Why are you putting words in my mouth. You and another individual fail to understand nuance. As stated before it's a matter preference.

You are right maybe i do not understand nuances as English is not my first language.

So we better leave it at that.

 

[Raneleigh]

I think those wheels have AS for better landing and take off dynamics , steel springs will take the plane off the track when drifting on the runway to bank a hard right into the gate for arrival at Heathrow

Is it really fair to make that assumption though? I mean, AS might not have been important to British Airways. I'm sure it was an expensive option and it's a fact that most of those pilots preferred more road feel because it was floaty enough once they lifted off.

 

[macan282]

I think those wheels have AS for better landing and take off dynamics , steel springs will take the plane off the track when drifting on the runway to bank a hard right into the gate for arrival at Heathrow

Is it really fair to make that assumption though? I mean, AS might not have been important to British Airways. I'm sure it was an expensive option and it's a fact that most of those pilots preferred more road feel because it was floaty enough once they lifted off.

OMG HYSTERICAL I think my co-workers now think i am officially nuts.... Laughter emanating from my office

 

[Milans]

OMG HYSTERICAL I think my co-workers now think i am officially nuts.... Laughter emanating from my office

Even before my retirement I used to read forums at home...

 

[macan282]

OMG HYSTERICAL I think my co-workers now think i am officially nuts.... Laughter emanating from my office

Even before my retirement I used to read forums at home...

Wow .... Iphones I guess are a revelation. I'm going to let you think about what you just wrote .... A psychologist would call that passive aggressive....but what do I know I guess you have the answers for all worked out best.

 

[Nylon]

Is it really fair to make that assumption though? I mean, AS might not have been important to British Airways. I'm sure it was an expensive option and it's a fact that most of those pilots preferred more road feel because it was floaty enough once they lifted off.

LOL! Best one yet.