I was interested in the new EV Macan but now feel disappointed after today's reveal. The only impressive announcement was the supposed, potential maximum range. The increased size, weight and high prices have put me off considering it as a replacement for my current GTS.
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Seating position 3cm lower has put me out of the picture. Macan was already the lowest seating SUV I looked at. Any lower and it's not an SUV. So now have to ask Porsche until when can we order the ICE variants.Just found this article...
Porsche Macan EV range to expand with GT, GTS and more - carsales.com.au
Entry single-motor RWD model also set for Porsche’s new electric Macan SUV, while 500kW-plus GT a hot tip at the top endwww.carsales.com.au
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Stubby...that's the first word that comes to mind when I take in an overall view of the Porsche Macan EV...I'll be holding on to my ICE 2021 Porsche "Macan Turbo", the last of the true Macan Turbos, not some Macan EV with the word "Turbo" glued on the ass end...😅🤣😂😂🤣😂
I'm holding on to my 2021 "Real" Macan Turbo as well. Last year of the of true Macan Turbos and definitely MUCH better looking than the Macan EV. In fact, the best looking Macan of all time IMO. I'm just a little biased though
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The EV Macan does have some pluses. It offers more room in the boot, a front trunk, digital screens across the front dash, 380 miles range, a quick charge capability that gets 80% of max range in 20 minutes. The drive sits lower in the vehicle which should make it feel more car like.
The question is can Porsche product an EV that justifies a large premium over other EVs?
To answer a person would really have to drive the EV Macan. Do you get that same Porsche feel you get hearing the ICE fire up? Does the performance in all aspects (power, braking, steering, ride, etc) have the Porsche DNA that sets it apart from the competition? Does it make you look forward to your morning drive?
I’m looking forward to hearing from early buyers.
Me too. There is something called porsche DNA, and when tycan first came out my dealer had me come down to take a new tycan out for the weekend to see what I thought. I drove my 911 down, parked it and took tycan out. Came back next day and said, no thanks. Happly driving my 911tt back home.
I fear that will be ev macan experience
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To be clear: your real world range will be nowhere near 380 if you drive on highways. Those ranges are usually calculated at 55 MPH in near perfect conditions. Travel at real highway speeds and those numbers plummet quickly.
Once again this thread drifted OT. And once again I had to clean this up.
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I got a Taycan as a loaner the other day. It felt I was sitting on the floor. I am ok with a sports car but not on a daily driver.
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Well we will have to wait and see I guess when we get invites to local launches. If it's too low even with a seat cushion then I place my order for a fully specced GTS.
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Seat cushion? On a Porsche? 😳
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I had back surgery hence the SUV. Years of driving a low 3 series cabriolet unfortunately.
Get 18-way seats and bring your seating position up to what you want before
Who wants to sit lower in a Macan? It's meant to be a comfortable SUV, not a sit on the floor sportscar !
The fact remains that American EV management is going to charge you the most that they can for battery repairs. An example of this is a friend of mine drives for Uber. Uber is contracted with Tesla to provide Tesla cars to some Uber drivers for advertising. She got a new Tesla with a maintenance ticket to get the "battery fixed at Tesla". The Tesla had 40000 miles and Tesla would only replace both battery banks. Each battery bank was 25000 USD. That's 50000 USD at 40000 miles. I've owned many many battery powered items throughout my life, as you all have, and they do not last. Tesla will not repair individual battery element contactors today. They will make you buy an entire battery bank if they can... at 25k per bank. Think of any new ICE vehicle that you might buy today and what component on that ICE vehicle is known to fail at less than 100000 miles and WILL cost you 25000 dollars when it does! It doesn't exist. You can drive ICE vehicles hundreds of thousands of miles without major component repairs/replacements. You can't do that with a battery powered vehicle. My BMW still has the same clutch it had 24 years ago when I bought it! My kitchen All-Clad battery mixer had to be replace at 1 year... three times because the battery would not last. My Stihl lawn equipment uses the Stihl 300S batteries at 250 USD per battery. Only a year later and you can see the battery life is already about half what it was when they were new (these batteries don't decay linearly during the day... the decrease slightly and then drop off a cliff when they are dead).. but the overall life can be seen to be decreasing. I can only get 1.5 mows out of my equipment now where I could get three just a year and a half ago. So the bottom line is even the biggest tech company in the world right now... Apple.... can't get their batteries to last (reference Tim Cook putting out software that decreases daily battery endurance to "increase overall battery lifetime").... so auto companies are going to be nowhere near the tech companies when it comes to battery lifetime. Especially the bottom feeders like Ford, Chevrolet, etc.,... Sure Porsche tested the Macan EV in the cold of winter countries but this is only healthy batteries and not aging batteries. YOU WIILL REGRET BUYING ANY EV. MARK MY WORDS.
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yikes, in case anyone wants non anecdotal information about 1.5% battery failure rate:
What Does A Tesla Battery Replacement Really Cost?
Although rare and primarily applicable to older Teslas, a complete battery replacement can be a substantial financial burden.
carbuzz.com
sorry to your friend who bought out of warranty
Thanks Eric! This friend is very close to me and she showed me the repair receipt. Granted this is a big company charging another big company. Certainly some financial "hiding" and tax evading going on there but I did see the receipt. That is a good read from Eric above. Still, a known cost of approximately 15K+ at 100000 miles per this article and Musk. Depends upon the driving. This Uber car probably got driven hard and often and is a good example of the life of a battery under heavy load/driving. When you read these articles you have to remember that they are being written by agencies and CEOs who are motivated by sales. I look at my personal experiences with batteries. Apple's laptop/desktop batteries is a great place to compare because batteries is Apples business and one of their biggest sales elements. Then I live in Florida so a hurricane would have me driving major roads north toward Atlanta. Where are the charging stations en route? Doesn't matter becuase they will all be occupied by other EVs! So an EV here on the Gulf Coast is a "leave it somewhere in Florida and take your ICE vehicle to Atlanta for the hurricane" vehicle. Finally, our power grids per Newson in California can not support all the loads we currently have. In the same breath Newson will tell you, "people must turn their AC off in the summer so we can conserve electricity in our power grids.... oh, and we are getting rid of ICE vehicles so everyone plug in an EV into that grid that can't support everyones ACs being on in the Summers!" Our EVs are still and will be powered by fossil fuels for a long time to come. Production of EVs takes more CO2 equivalent emissions than an ICE vehicle. Primarily in the battery construction phase. Then when an EV hits the road the equivalent CO2 emissions are greater than ICE vehicles becuase EVs are charged by fossil fuels. EVs are the biggest scam inflicted on the human race since Hitler in WWII. If it were an earnest attempt to save the environment, the government would have started with the power grid and then worked their way to the vehicles on the roads. But it is a get rich scheme for friends, family, politicians and personal wealth.
Hey, the new Macan EV has 12 individual battery modules with 15 cells each but not one.
In case one cell is defective or an accident damages some outer modules the game is not over as with highly integrated battery modules, which can only be changed completely and not get repaired.
Some very clever EV vendors integrate the battery even as a part of the chassis, which lets a side crash or individual cell defect result in a total loss.
But it has to be noted that the general development direction goes into this latter direction, therefore Porsche Macan EV is creditable exception.
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In case one cell is defective or an accident damages some outer modules the game is not over as with highly integrated battery modules, which can only be changed completely and not get repaired.
Some very clever EV vendors integrate the battery even as a part of the chassis, which lets a side crash or individual cell defect result in a total loss.
But it has to be noted that the general development direction goes into this latter direction, therefore Porsche Macan EV is creditable exception.
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