I was interested in the new EV Macan but now feel disappointed after today's reveal. The only impressive announcement was the supposed, potential maximum range. The increased size, weight and high prices have put me off considering it as a replacement for my current GTS.
Disappointed with the new Macan EV
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I have buddy been living in SG. for way too many years. He went there and thought the whole performance was terrible
Just some random thoughts on the Macan EV if you care to read them
My wife had a Model 3 and now a '23 Model Y
I borrowed the Model 3 and Y frequently and I must say they are absolutely fantastic cars for what I feel is their intended purpose - the daily commute. The 3 in particular was a go-kart - very fun to drive. The Y is bigger, heavier, but still a great all-around car. My only complaint is the lack of sound dampening, there is always road noise, and when you stop at traffic lights you can hear people on their phones in other vehicles around you.
I feel like the "build quality" thing is media BS, we never had any issues, and the finish on the Y in particular is first rate.
So what's the point?
We would never attempt a long range trip in a Tesla. The idea of heading up to Maine for a summer vacation (a 12hr trip) and stopping 4 times to charge is just stupid. So we take the Macan. Which is now nearly 9 years old, but I really struggle now with what to replace it with? We don't need another EV that can't make a long trip.
Here is where I don't understand Porsche's strategy. The Macan EV is, more or less functionally equivalent to the Model Y, but 2.5-3X more expensive but effectively no more capable. And the ICE Macan is - 10 years old at this point under the hood - how appealing is that to live on another 2yrs? As a result I feel like Porsche has taken the Macan from their "bread and butter" covering a huge audience from entry level for the base car (50-60K) and up through the GTS - and basically killed it. The Macan EV can only be considered as a niche car - it's for somebody that wants to spend 100K+ on a luxury Model Y - with all the same limitations/idiosyncrasies that come with owning an EV, and with less charging infrastructure.
I guess this is the "we'll charge more and sell less" hubris post-COVID business model, but it seems like shooting themselves in the foot.
My wife had a Model 3 and now a '23 Model Y
I borrowed the Model 3 and Y frequently and I must say they are absolutely fantastic cars for what I feel is their intended purpose - the daily commute. The 3 in particular was a go-kart - very fun to drive. The Y is bigger, heavier, but still a great all-around car. My only complaint is the lack of sound dampening, there is always road noise, and when you stop at traffic lights you can hear people on their phones in other vehicles around you.
I feel like the "build quality" thing is media BS, we never had any issues, and the finish on the Y in particular is first rate.
So what's the point?
We would never attempt a long range trip in a Tesla. The idea of heading up to Maine for a summer vacation (a 12hr trip) and stopping 4 times to charge is just stupid. So we take the Macan. Which is now nearly 9 years old, but I really struggle now with what to replace it with? We don't need another EV that can't make a long trip.
Here is where I don't understand Porsche's strategy. The Macan EV is, more or less functionally equivalent to the Model Y, but 2.5-3X more expensive but effectively no more capable. And the ICE Macan is - 10 years old at this point under the hood - how appealing is that to live on another 2yrs? As a result I feel like Porsche has taken the Macan from their "bread and butter" covering a huge audience from entry level for the base car (50-60K) and up through the GTS - and basically killed it. The Macan EV can only be considered as a niche car - it's for somebody that wants to spend 100K+ on a luxury Model Y - with all the same limitations/idiosyncrasies that come with owning an EV, and with less charging infrastructure.
I guess this is the "we'll charge more and sell less" hubris post-COVID business model, but it seems like shooting themselves in the foot.
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Why would anyone spend big money on an EV to use mainly for local travel only? Status symbol? The electrical infrastructure is not ready to support the convenience for long range travel at this time. Those auto companies putting all their money into EV’s may not be able to stay solvent unless they can trend water for many years. A company like Toyota, that is focusing hybrids and ICE vehicles are going to succeed in this transition to EV’s in the next 5 to 10 years.
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they are definitely planning to sell more and they will. After reading these rants, I realized the current Macan owners are not their target market. Current Macan owners may move to a Cayenne Coupe E-Hybrid until they are ready for an EV. They see the resistance and they already got you covered $P911
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And Lord knows, those massage seats are a necessity. Couldn't possible order one of these without them.
I'm probably biased, but I like the looks of the ICE Macan over the EV Macan - both exterior and interior. I also don't like the wheel options - I think the standard wheels on my Macan S look much better. I expected that the base model would be at least as fast as my Macan S, so that's disappointing. Also, making the rear wiper an option is bad decision to save a few bucks. According to my dealer, a replacement battery for a Taycan is $80K, so I wonder how much they will charge for a replacement Macan battery. I look forward to watching some YouTube video test drives to see if my initial reaction changes.
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I don't know guys.. I may be a lot old fashion But.. "Fake exhaust.. Really"? But that's just me.. Everyone has different likings and that has to be respected..
Just found this article...
Porsche Macan EV range to expand with GT, GTS and more - carsales.com.au
Entry single-motor RWD model also set for Porsche’s new electric Macan SUV, while 500kW-plus GT a hot tip at the top end
And there it is, if true.Porsche Macan EV range to expand with GT, GTS and more - carsales.com.au
Entry single-motor RWD model also set for Porsche’s new electric Macan SUV, while 500kW-plus GT a hot tip at the top endwww.carsales.com.au
But I doubt it will be a Weissach GT since AP said Macans dont race, but a Turbo S SURE.
Early adopters to Turbos will be 😡😭
I really hope it shoots them in the foot big time and they backtrack. To turn your back on the entry level market and jack it up to premiums that bring it to the level of lightly used 911 is ridiculous.
A canadian build of a Base 4 - with premium package and nicer wheels than the ugly stock ones + sport chrono brings it to almost 115k before taxes.
A GTS with premium package and more bells/whistles is 107k.
So I get a slower vehicle by a large margin with some fancy tech that will depreciate 40% in 2 years.
Id rather just get a used Taycan at that point.
Much better EV options from competitors at this price point. BMW being a great example.
After the initial excitement - I dont expect it to sell well. Who knows though... alot of dumb money and lots of people put their names on a list for the EV Macan. Just dont know why youd pay that much for such a slow EV.
Probably right for me, looking at these tech data. Will check in a few years again (when the "free gas cheque" or price difference old/new is used up). Eventually upcoming S versions will have a 2 speed gearbox and Porsche's new active suspension (Panamera), at least offering better acceleration performance to match the price level...
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You keep saying this… Why do you think there will Turbo S when there hasn’t been a Macan Turbo S to date? The article even quotes the deputy chairman saying a GT is coming. If its priced anything like the Cayenne, it’ll be a $150k+ Macan GT. I’m sure there will be buyers, but I can’t imagine that market being very big.
Sure there was, MY18, 0.5% of US sales as the PP.
For the performance oriented, and the core membership here gravitates to the most powerful model over the years, that will become the EV halo car. Why wasnt it called the Turbo S? My guess is the long known fact they had to electrify.
Macan USA sales #s by trim level
These are PCNA numbers only. I cannot grantee 100% accuracy, but should be very close at a minimum. I came across these when I "researched" ordered 718 Spyder options for a spreadsheet I created for my curiousity. Macan sales by trim level broken down by model year: MY 2015 MY 2016 MY 2017 MY...
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The $7500 tax credit only applies to cars that cost less than $75k.....the Macan EV does not meet the requirements.
That's wrong with regard to leased vehicles, as I already explained. The restriction you mention does not apply to leased vehicles. Porsche is passing the credit along on leased Taycans, the cost of which exceeds the dollar limit that applies to purchased cars. Please read my prior response to you. I quoted language from Porsche leasing regarding passing the credit back to those who lease a Taycan. As I said before, if Porsche is passing the credit along to lessees of Taycans chances are they will do the same for leased Macans.
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I am I the same boat I liked owning a first gen Macan now a third gen, but the fourth gen or EV is a no go for me. My wife is up for a new car soon amd sure what to get if we don’t get her a base Macan or Macan t. Ty e thought of getting her another Audi sickens me and I would not touch a BMW, Mercedes or Land Rover with a ten foot poll.
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I think it’s too early to buy any EV. As to the EV Macan, i can’t say I’m deflated—-ambivalent is a better word. It’s expensive and I anticipate it will have problems like all the other EVs are experiencing—excessive tire wear, software glitches, less than advertised range, etc. So all facts considered I’m not a buyer. When I first looked at the images of the EV Macan I thought it has a nice look but something seemed off to me. The more I’ve thought about it the design seems more Kia like than Porsche like. Does anyone else see that? If you put a Kia badge on it would anyone notice?
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I guess I never looked at the PP as the Turbo S because, it wasn’t the Turbo S. The PP gave a slight bump in hp and torque, larger front bakes, that’s it. The Turbo S, at least in the 911, provides more, which is probably why they never called it Turbo S? Being an early Turbo owner in ‘14, it didn’t phase me one bit that there was a pp option for the Turbo Several years later, but perhaps there were a few angry and longing for more. 🤷♂️Sure there was, MY18, 0.5% of US sales as the PP.
For the performance oriented, and the core membership here gravitates to the most powerful model over the years, that will become the EV halo car. Why wasnt it called the Turbo S? My guess is the long known fact they had to electrify.
Macan USA sales #s by trim level
These are PCNA numbers only. I cannot grantee 100% accuracy, but should be very close at a minimum. I came across these when I "researched" ordered 718 Spyder options for a spreadsheet I created for my curiousity. Macan sales by trim level broken down by model year: MY 2015 MY 2016 MY 2017 MY...
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I would also speculate that there will be a Turbo S coming. It feels like Porsche 'detuned' the Turbo like they did with the ICE S. For $90k I can get 800+hp/900+torque (and more range/utility) from Rivian for example. It's a hard sell for me to pay $120k for an equally speced Turbo. Or pay less than half the price for basically the same output as a Model Y Performance. The introduction of a Turbo S may push down the pricing and up the power, especially when the Rivian R2 lands.
Yes, not a lot of buyers are cross shopping against Rivian, but some will and it will create pressure. I believe enthusiasts buying upper trims do care about engine power. Market competition is great.
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