[BaldyGSripper]

Trim:ㅤ

GTS

Year:ㅤ

2021

TireRack is adamant these tires should not be installed on a Macan.
Continental (the manufacturer) is adamant they are suitable for a Macan.
It even says so on their website. Go figure...

They are indeed available in Macan sizing, no issues there.
However, the fronts have an H speed rating, while the backs have a W rating.
I've sent Continental's engineering department an email asking for clarification on this discrepancy.

If a tire manufacturer does not have a problem
with fitting their own mismatched tires with different speed ratings on a car,
then so be it, and who am I to dispute that? Not that I have a problem with it, frankly.

But this needs to be cleared up, because someone's obviously in the wrong...

And I really want this tire for my Macan. I absolutely love it. I'm on my fifth pair.
I definitely wouldn't get it for an M3, but for my 328 wagon (winter beater),
it's more than good enough in the dry (and rain), and for an all-season tire,
it performs exceptionally well in the snow.

 

[p_nut]

TireRack is adamant these tires should not be installed on a Macan.
Continental (the manufacturer) is adamant they are suitable for a Macan.
It even says so on their website. Go figure...

They are indeed available in Macan sizing, no issues there.
However, the fronts have an H speed rating, while the backs have a W rating.
I've sent Continental's engineering department an email asking for clarification on this discrepancy.

If a tire manufacturer does not have a problem
with fitting their own mismatched tires with different speed ratings on a car,
then so be it, and who am I to dispute that? Not that I have a problem with it, frankly.

But this needs to be cleared up, because someone's obviously in the wrong...

And I really want this tire for my Macan. I absolutely love it. I'm on my fifth pair.
I definitely wouldn't get it for an M3, but for my 328 wagon (winter beater),
it's more than good enough in the dry (and rain), and for an all-season tire,
it performs exceptionally well in the snow.

When these were on sale last year, I bought a set from TR for my Macan Turbo. I haven't installed yet, but the sticker says ZR and W for both F/R. I have these on my 986S also, but haven't seen snow yet. Good to know they should do well.

 

[BaldyGSripper]

When these were on sale last year, I bought a set from TR for my Macan Turbo. I haven't installed yet, but the sticker says ZR and W for both F/R. I have these on my 986S also, but haven't seen snow yet. Good to know they should do well.

Hmm... Does the Turbo use the standard sizing?
In standard front sizing for my GTS, 265/45ZR20, the DWS does not come in a W speed rating, just Y.
Going to a 275 up front would give you a W, but I don't want to mess around with different sizes.

Yes, the DWS has gotten me admirably through ten winters in the ski resort where I live.
The Michelin Latitudes that came stock with my car were great in the dry and rain,
but absolutely horrible in the snow. Worst all-season tire I've ever driven in the snow.

 

[Rusty Rotors]

I would never mix H and W. Too much of a range gap for tire integrity. I would consider a mix of V,W,Y or Z. DWS06 is a nice tire. Just need to get the speed rating closer.

 

[p_nut]

Hmm... Does the Turbo use the standard sizing?
In standard front sizing for my GTS, 265/45ZR20, the DWS does not come in a W speed rating, just Y.
Going to a 275 up front would give you a W, but I don't want to mess around with different sizes.

Yes, the DWS has gotten me admirably through ten winters in the ski resort where I live.
The Michelin Latitudes that came stock with my car were great in the dry and rain,
but absolutely horrible in the snow. Worst all-season tire I've ever driven in the snow.

I have stock 19", front 235/55 and 255/50 rear.

Wow, that's a lot of snow driving!

 

[BaldyGSripper]

I would never mix H and W. Too much of a range gap for tire integrity. I would consider a mix of V,W,Y or Z. DWS06 is a nice tire. Just need to get the speed rating closer.

Exactly, that's why Continental recommending it leaves me scratching my head...

 

[Santirx]

TireRack is adamant these tires should not be installed on a Macan.
Continental (the manufacturer) is adamant they are suitable for a Macan.
It even says so on their website. Go figure...

They are indeed available in Macan sizing, no issues there.
However, the fronts have an H speed rating, while the backs have a W rating.
I've sent Continental's engineering department an email asking for clarification on this discrepancy.

If a tire manufacturer does not have a problem
with fitting their own mismatched tires with different speed ratings on a car,
then so be it, and who am I to dispute that? Not that I have a problem with it, frankly.

But this needs to be cleared up, because someone's obviously in the wrong...

And I really want this tire for my Macan. I absolutely love it. I'm on my fifth pair.
I definitely wouldn't get it for an M3, but for my 328 wagon (winter beater),
it's more than good enough in the dry (and rain), and for an all-season tire,
it performs exceptionally well in the snow.

I’ve been using these tires in my Macan for 2 years now. The best all-season tires I’ve ever had in my Macan in my 10 years of ownership…

I went through Tire Rack BS as well… ended up buying from Tire Rack anyway… didn’t get them as a kit, but got them individually… you can do that if instead of selecting by vehicle, you select by tire size.

The difference in speed rating is really not an issue, if all you are doing is commuting at highway speeds (sometimes a bit more spirited) and driving around the city…

If you are tracking your Macan… then all seasons are not good to begin with…

 

[Santirx]

So, went to the garage, grabbed some photos of mine, and these are the stamped load capacity / speed rating for the Contis DWS06 Plus 21”

FRONT: 105W (168mph / 2039 lbs)
REAR: 107Y (186mph / 2149 lbs)

Not sure where these other ratings posted here before are coming from, but these actual 2 ratings are proximal to each other.. they are really high up there (exotic car level). So no reason to be concerned about this difference in my opinion…. Who will drive a Macan at 150mph+, unless you are in a track? Do they even go that fast? Never dare to try…😊.

But these tires are very responsive for daily driving. I love them and I’ll continue to use them for the life of my Macan….

FRONT:

REAR:

 

[Smike]

I would never mix H and W. Too much of a range gap for tire integrity. I would consider a mix of V,W,Y or Z. DWS06 is a nice tire. Just need to get the speed rating closer.

Not true. Tires have the same designs, compounds, overlays, etc. Speed rating aligns more with what is in the market by size. Driven by OEM vehicle placards. And all tire manufactures test the tires 1-2 steps over the molded rating in development.

You can install H and W tires on the car. The speed limit on the vehicle is lowered to the lesser speed rating. H in this example, 130 mph.

TireRack must follow vehicle placard ratings for liability (Load and Speed ratings).

The DWS06 Plus is not an H rated tire. W+.

 

[Smike]

Also - what are you looking at for speed ratings?

265/45R20 front is 104Y LI/SR.
295/40R20 rear is 110W LI/SR.

The OE placard is:
F:104Y
R:106Y

TireRack wont sell you the rear because of the Y OE rating (speed rating defined by manufacture in excess of 186 mph). W is 168 mph by-the-way. Neither relevant, pretty sure the Macan top speed is 162....

From the LOAD carrying - they meet and exceed. That is far more important here.

Add them to cart individually. Don't add car info.

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...21&autoModel=Macan%20GTS&autoModClar=&frontTire=645YR0DWS06P&i1_Qty=2&tab=Sizes

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...21&autoModel=Macan%20GTS&autoModClar=&rearTire=94WR0DWS06PXL&i1_Qty=2&tab=Sizes

 

[///Bruce]

FWIW, I installed Conti 6’s on mine and got less than 9,000 miles out of them. 20” wheels. Stock sizes.

 

[PTC DAWG]

I have a set of these on an MDX AWD Acura, excellent tires…

 

[Santirx]

FWIW, I installed Conti 6’s on mine and got less than 9,000 miles out of them. 20” wheels. Stock sizes.

That's odd. Were yours DWS06 Plus?

Mine have been in my Macan for 28K miles, and tread is measuring about 7/32 to 8/32 for both.

 

[Santirx]

I have a set of these on an MDX AWD Acura, excellent tires…

The issue is that the Macan use staggered tires... so technically different tires front and rear, which is the main topic of this discussion here. But I agree, as I stated before, the best high performance all-season tires I've had.

 

[Smike]

FWIW, I installed Conti 6’s on mine and got less than 9,000 miles out of them. 20” wheels. Stock sizes.

Which 6? SportContact6, PremiumContact6? Those are OE tire lines.

No mileage warranty or expectation. OEMs want handling feel, stopping distance, and quiet.

DWS06 Plus is a replacement line product.

 

[///Bruce]

That's odd. Were yours DWS06 Plus?

Mine have been in my Macan for 28K miles, and tread is measuring about 7/32 to 8/32 for both.

They were summer versions. 9,000 miles! Terrible.

 

[///Bruce]

Which 6? SportContact6, PremiumContact6? Those are OE tire lines.

No mileage warranty or expectation. OEMs want handling feel, stopping distance, and quiet.

DWS06 Plus is a replacement line product.

Sport Conti 6’s.

 

[Santirx]

Sport Conti 6’s.

Oh, yes, not the same. The DWS06+ are amazing.

To me, it has the durability of an all-season with all benefits of all-weather traction… but combined with very high performance. Not Summers but as close as an all-season can get.

 

[///Bruce]

Oh, yes, not the same. The DWS06+ are amazing.

To me, it has the durability of an all-season with all benefits of all-weather traction… but combined with very high performance. Not Summers but as close as an all-season can get.

I’m in Houston. Down here we’re worried about the roads buckling upwards from the heat more than cold weather. 😎

 

[rkw723]

After 20k on Sport Latitude 3, it was time for new tires (22 S). Replacements came down to DWS06+ or Yokohama Geolander X-CV. Went with the Geolander (great tirerack ratings) but also have deep treads (11/32 frt and 12/32 rear)