That’s who I am in chat with.
I wonder if there is any difference in versions…doubt it…just distribution.

 

Manual attached...

 

Still looks like it uses AUX but not in the same way as old which required the dummy plug? How is the install compared to the other ones with external box? Looks like you have to move the MOST cable to there loom.

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I’m not sure what you are referring to with the blanking plug. Can you elaborate?

For your second set of questions, the MOST fiber wire needs to be connected directly to the head unit. The reason you move it is because there is a harness that you have to install between the head unit and the OEM harness.

Hence, you need to relocate the MOST fiber wire from OEM harness plug to the provided harness plug so that it is directly connected to the head unit.

To answer your question, YES… I needed to do this with my currently installed system too.


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Ah okay.

Ignore blanking plug comment. I see further up you said audio doesn't work without it being plugged in

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Ah okay.

Ignore blanking plug comment. I see further up you said audio doesn't work without it being plugged in

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Oh, I see what you are saying. Is that dummy plug.

The answer to that question is, audio through AUX will not work without the plug. Audio through PCM USB will still work.

The way I’m using the CarPlay module, I connect the phone through wired PCM USB for audio. But then connect to CarPlay wireless through WIFI to transmit image. Hence, I have the CarPlay image, but audio is pass through PCM USB digitally (no DAC though AUX). Is the best compromise I found to be able to use CarPlay while preserving digital audio.

The drawback is that I need a procedure during startup. I can’t connect the phone until after the CarPlay is connected through WIFI. Then, once I connect it, I select iPod in the PCM (instead of AUX) and then go to the CarPlay screen.

Also, I don’t have audio from apps (like Waze or Apple Maps). Only Google Maps is able to transmit audio.

Good compromises. Work for me.


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Also looks good as it intergrates with factory Bluetooth microphone which is a big step up from last version which it is my understanding you needed a separate mic regardless.

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Shame it doesn't look like it can integrate with the built in USB in cubby. I wonder if that's something they could do in the program or firmware update. As the pcm has access to that port.

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very good thread! hope this turns into something great. very invested in the outcome about to purchase one as well

 

Received today. Hasn't got off to the best of starts.

1. I have damaged one of the vents trying to remove it (it was super stiff and I gave it my all, and it slipped and broke some tabs on the fins inside the vent)
2. I have a module inside my pcm3.1 which means I need to order more standoffs 2 per corner
3. Whilst I was testing my 2 per corner method the first stand off just snapped odd in the hole when I was screwing it in by hand.

Hoping the standoffs I have ordered will arrive tomorrow I can complete install and report back.

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Received today. Hasn't got off to the best of starts.

1. I have damaged one of the vents trying to remove it (it was super stiff and I gave it my all, and it slipped and broke some tabs on the fins inside the vent)
2. I have a module inside my pcm3.1 which means I need to order more standoffs 2 per corner
3. Whilst I was testing my 2 per corner method the first stand off just snapped odd in the hole when I was screwing it in by hand.

Hoping the standoffs I have ordered will arrive tomorrow I can complete install and report back.

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Check the vent. Vent fins may just be dislodged from their slots. That happened to me once and was able to get them back in place.

Mine is still in transit.

 

Photo of what I recieved and my unit opened up

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Managed to save one of the two vents by swapping bits over to make one of them functional again.

Now only need to buy one vent instead of two.

Let me tell you the video on YouTube of someone removing a vent on a macan must be fake or vent was already pulled. They make it look like they give it a gently tug, so gentle in fact, it made me think there may have been some sort of tabs (there's not).

Highly suggest either buy the official tool or maybe a decent long pick/hook set will do

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Agree @Don16 with the vent. Is very hard to take out. What I did, after I took it out, I placed the tool where I was supposed to be pulling from (top back side corner of the vent) and marked the tool at the exact depth, for future reference to ensure I’m pulling from the right place.

Since I did that, I had been able to take it out a couple of additional times without any issues.


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Great news you are started Don...best of Luck !
Santrix, can you please post a pic of your tool......with the mark, maybe measured ? thx !

 

Here it is…

close to 11cm (4-1/4 in)…

grab in that top corner on right side of PCM…

and on this corner on the left side of PCM…

You’ll need to pull hard, especially for the right trim. A steady hand is important.

 

Awesome ……pull you mean
where do you buy that ?

 

YES! I don’t know what I was thinking…

Fixed!

Long days at work…

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Can someone help me with what size standoffs I need.

I wasn't certain I need M2 but both packs of M2s I ordered are to small. Is it actually M3 I need?

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M2.5

At least those were the ones I used.

Electronics-Salon Metric M2.5 Hex Male-Female Brass Standoff/Stainless Steel Screw Nut Assortment Kit, for Raspberry-Pi. Spacer 6mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 15mm 18mm 20mm 25mm, Nut M2.5, Screw M2.5 x 6mm. Electronics-Salon Metric M2.5 Hex Male-Female Brass Standoff/Stainless Steel Screw Nut Assortment Kit, for Raspberry-Pi. Spacer 6mm 8mm 10mm 12mm 15mm 18mm 20mm 25mm, Nut M2.5, Screw M2.5 x 6mm.: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific


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Perfect. I probably should have asked here first! Would have saved me lost of hassle.

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I hopefully I can fit tomorrow once standoffs arrive.

BTW - I can confirm the following:
1. No aux blanking plug (did you say this was needed for audio to work via aux) maybe they found away around this and audio takes over aux channel/button.

2. There is no external box. Everything I included in photo is what I recieved.

3. It came with a microphone which looks like knockoff oem. This means it will fit in oem microphone slot with no modification or if you already have it should just use from the offset.

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I hopefully I can fit tomorrow once standoffs arrive.

BTW - I can confirm the following:
1. No aux blanking plug (did you say this was needed for audio to work via aux) maybe they found away around this and audio takes over aux channel/button.

2. There is no external box. Everything I included in photo is what I recieved.

3. It came with a microphone which looks like knockoff oem. This means it will fit in oem microphone slot with no modification or if you already have it should just use from the offset.

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Can you show where the OEM mic would go? I don’t have it, and have no idea where is the space to install it.

 

I think it goes in the roof console (depending lhd or rhd) - see circled

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Oh, OK… cool. I thought this is where the PCM phone mic was. Are the voice recognition and phone microphone one and the same?


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I'm not entirely sure. I would think they are the same microphone and don't see why there would be a need to have two.

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Installed this today.

Pros:

• Wireless android auto works well and no dropouts experienced yet
• no issues with it switching to 360 surround cameras when going in to reverse
• Uses factory built in microphone (Bluetooth) for hey google/siri
• Snappy interface, very quick with no lag (using an Samsung S9)
• Everything works as before with no issues.

Negatives
- Audio quality is definitely worse. I would say 20-30% worse. However it's not as bad as I thought it would be. I played around with EQ on pcm and switching off surround definitely improves things as does playing around with the android auto unit EQ.
I also keep audio on android auto unit at 35 out of 40 which seems to help quality.
Think audio would be better on AUX BT but that's not possible with android auto, not that I have found anyways.
- There is an option (see image) factory usb switch, not worked out what this does as it doesn't seem to do anything and switches off after a while.

Any questions ask away.

Video coming soon...

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Installed this today.

Pros:

• Wireless android auto works well and no dropouts experienced yet
• no issues with it switching to 360 surround cameras when going in to reverse
• Uses factory built in microphone (Bluetooth) for hey google/siri
• Snappy interface, very quick with no lag (using an Samsung S9)
• Everything works as before with no issues.

Negatives
- Audio quality is definitely worse. I would say 20-30% worse. However it's not as bad as I thought it would be. I played around with EQ on pcm and switching off surround definitely improves things as does playing around with the android auto unit EQ.
I also keep audio on android auto unit at 35 out of 40 which seems to help quality.
Think audio would be better on AUX BT but that's not possible with android auto, not that I have found anyways.
- There is an option (see image) factory usb switch, not worked out what this does as it doesn't seem to do anything and switches off after a while.

Any questions ask away.

Video coming soon...

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Thanks.

Disappointed to hear about the audio quality, but not quite unexpected. I just had hopes that it would sound better. Let’s see when I receive mine.

About the mic, does that mean that you didn’t have to use the provided microphone, and that it integrated with the existing OEM one?

Also, are you connecting directly via the provided USB input and using wired AUX?

 

Excellent work Don, thanks for sharing this....the video is worth the wait.....get popcorn now

 

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Nice video! It helps in anticipation of my install.

When I saw you connecting the large ribbon wire to the wrong slot I was like “Noooo! Don16… the other one!” 😂

Good thing that you caught it. I knew you were going to figure out when trying to connect the ribbons on the CarPlay board, as they would not fit.

Also, if I remember correctly, you don’t have to remove the top two screws in the rear of the CD player to be able to remove it… I may be wrong… long time since I did it last.

Good move passing the wire harnesses through the SiriusXM slot.

Again, great video man! Hoping to share and exchange more ideas when mine arrives. I’ll be replacing the older model of the CarPlay module. This will give me good perspective and I’ll be able to compare both setups.

 

So what's the verdict on sound quality? Same POS as joyauto or on another level?

 

The verdict is its probably the same as joyauto, maybe a bit better (haven't got joyauto to check, It still routes audio out and then back in via aux.

If we could find a way or a solution to route audio via aux Bluetooth whilst connected to carplay, audio would be better. However I think this limitation is carplay android auto rather than the unit. Just wish they could have used another method for audio just logically I'm not sure how they could.


One issue I have been having is I can't seem to get Google assistance to work when asking it to do stuff, it recognises my voice fine and command appears on the screen but it just always says "Something went wrong, please try again". Google news and weather is working as is maps.

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So the USB lead at the front Don.....is for wired CarPlay. I wonder if you connected an iPhone......what sound would be like and if you can carry sound over this wired connection.

 

Maybe carplay operates differently. I will however try again tomorrow.

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With this method Santrix.....if you have music on via usb....and waze, via wifi CP.....does Waze guided audio work simultaneously ?

 

No. I cant have Waze of Apple Maps pass audio through iPod wired connection when in Wireless Carplay.

The only map application that works is Google Maps because it gives you the audio output option in the app.


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I could make it work with FM/JUKEBOX as long as I turn on the car with FM/JUKEBOX enabled and let carplay start without any manual interactions. I couldn't get audio via USB/iPOD to work with carplay.