I just don't know how often you would use it - I barely use my cruise control now. Feel so disenfranchised from my car and especially as you are buying a driving machine.

Though I do try and convince my wife to use it when she drives ...

 

I almost never use cruise control because I start day dreaming when I do. For me it's a dangerous feature in a car.

 

Yep it's a must for me, just for the Porsche Active Safety component. The ACC is handy, I hear especially handy in stop-go traffic as it stops all the way down to a halt then goes again once you tap the accelerator.

CC isn't very popular in some markets though; in the UK, standard cruise control is a cost option!

 

Sorry to dredge up an old thread but anyone have any insight on this - was thinking of getting it more for the Posrche Active Safe feature for front end impacts. Assuming it would almost be like having insurance, but it does costs a bit.

 

Here's a nice demo:

 

After doing research on it....I'm getting it. There's another thread on PAS, it won't stop for everything (I posted the sensor limits from the Bosch system), but it's a good insurance policy.

I commute on two lane roads, and always get stuck behind a slower driver....typically below the speed limit. Drivers around here don't use CC, so speed varies +/- 10mph and will drive you nuts. I'm hoping the ACC will help temper some of my......errr....frustration issues where I pass a given vehicle at a rapid pace.....typically with a......friendly gesture.

I also get a lot of cross traffic, where people pull out and don't get up to speed. Long trips it should be nice as well.

 

Another option I am considering that could go with ACC-PAS, as a safety enhancement is Lane Keep Assist. Just for the odd occasion when you are on a long drive and are sleepy :-(

Anybody know if the Porsche LKA is very intrusive and also how good it is ? I have heard a lot of negative reviews in general about Lane Departure Warning (as it is called in other Porsche models).

 

In another thread they say it's annoying.

 

Good video, looks like a great option if you can get use of out it.

I make about 10 road trips a year, ~450 miles round trip and hardly use cruise control. However, having ACC in place would probably increase my usage. Expensive option...

 

PAS is nice, but should not trust it 100%. When it comes to safety, you would think a Volvo as fool proof. But check out this Volvo Press demonstration...

Volvo Collision Protection system tested on Truck - Crash. - YouTube

 

I do have a long'ish commute for now - 40 miles each way, don't know how much I would enjoy relinquishing control (already this is my first non-manual/stick car)

Most commentators online speak about the ACC, but not the PAS
Am worried, that is 4 years time, PAS is going to be standard on most crap- mundane cars and this car will not have it.
And yes, I am not thinking of resale value, more just not wanting to be behind the times.

Just wish it wasn't so pricey

 

I'm considering adding ACC (and PAS). A friend of mine told me he had it on a BMW. He complained the minimum gap was so big cars kept entering the lane in front of him.

I drive less agressively than my friend, but I could see that being annoying. Maybe it would do me good to develop a more relaxed attitude to other drivers, and I can see the ACC would allow one to be more relaxed.

Would those who have used the PAS comment please. I understand it is defined as a time interval, and that interval increases with speed. Do you find your self with a bigger gap in front than you would choose when following another car?

 

I had an Audi A6 with ACC and do not have it on my Macan. It has some safety aspects for sure, but I found other aspects a annoying. If you are traveling at 70 mph and catch up to a car going 65 mph you slow to 65 and if you're not paying attention that's where you will stay. It happened to me over and over. If someone changes lanes in front of you into the safety zone your car will immediately and quickly slow down to get the spacing back. The first few times that happened to me I was surprised. The computer wants its spacing back and right now. The car entering your lane may be traveling at a faster speed than you, but till it clears your safety space your car is slowing down. I've only had it on one car and don't miss it a bit.

 

Not that happy with adaptive cruise control



I agree with birddog12. I have it on my ATS and I don't like it for all the same reasons.

 

Thanks Birddog. That was a useful review.

I guess the ACC can be turned off, but think the PAS is always on. Does the PAS ever become annoying? Do you get warnings, or vene braking when you're closer than Porsche thinks is safe but when you're OK with it?

 

We had ACC on our 2013 Cayenne Turbo. I didn't think I would like it, but I have a 35 mile highway commute to work. Once I began to use, I loved it enough to order on my Macan. It really does come in handy on long commutes!

 

Love my ACC. The gap is not a problem on highways but for city driving it is a bit conservative so I rarely use it there.

 

If it was on a switch between regular cruise, and acc, I would like it more. I have come to like it on my car, but this macan is my wife's, and the feature would annoy her. Once you know how the car reacts, you just need to apply some gas to override the auto braking the car does to get the gap back when another car triggers it. Meaning a car that squeezes into the gap, but is not worth braking over. The system will alarm at you the whole time you are over riding it with gas, but it won't brake at least. Once the gap slowly reforms, you let off the gas and it resumes control, back to normal again.

It's a pain on a busy highway, but works really well on a two lane highway. There are still times where your car will almost come to a stop if one ahead is slowing to turn. people behind will wonder why the heck you are braking for the car that isn't there anymore. It's a bit slow to realize that the car is gone, and then slow to resume speed.

The braking feature is great of course for safety.

So to sum it up, you intervene with gas or brake before it does, and then the results are much better. It will resume auto control once the gap criteria is met, without having to press any buttons.

 

I drove a Cayenne and tested the ACC today. I thought it pretty good and have added it to my order. $1600 for ACC and PAA doesn't seem expensive to me. It's roughly equal to some extra pieces of adorning leather and less than some wheel options which add little utility.

 

I've added too.

 

Love ACC

ACC IMHO is simply brilliant in the Porsche, I have it in my '14 Cayman S and ordered it in my Macan Turbo. I am so annoyed by regular cruise control, I am an aggressive driver and always doing the fastest lane. With regular cruise control traffic never stays a constant speed so it is useless.

ACC takes care of that! As another poster said you can lightly step on the gas or brake to override ACC. I've also learned to simply push the ACC level down to shut if off if a car cuts in front of me, then once we have some distance push the lever back up to resume.

Love it in highway traffic when I've had enough of the brake gas break gas syndrome.

It has three distances to choose from and I always use the minimum gap.

 

ACC IMHO is simply brilliant in the Porsche, I have it in my '14 Cayman S and ordered it in my Macan Turbo. I am so annoyed by regular cruise control, I am an aggressive driver and always doing the fastest lane. With regular cruise control traffic never stays a constant speed so it is useless.

ACC takes care of that! As another poster said you can lightly step on the gas or brake to override ACC. I've also learned to simply push the ACC level down to shut if off if a car cuts in front of me, then once we have some distance push the lever back up to resume.

Love it in highway traffic when I've had enough of the brake gas break gas syndrome.

It has three distances to choose from and I always use the minimum gap.

On virtually all regular Cruise Controls I've used, when I press 'Resume', I find the car 'floors it' to get back up to speed where I would normally accelerate more moderately. I end up applying moderate throttle to get up to almost the set speed before pressing Resume.

Does the Porsche system accelerate aggressively to resume speed when the road clears ahead? Is this adjustable?

 

SBU and anyone considering getting the ACC and PAS, how do you feel about lane keep assist, LKA? Purists seem to think it impunes if not their manhood, then at least their driving ability. Long streches of freeway become dangerous because humans are not good at monitoring and maintaining vigilance.

I have little need of it because I rarely drive long distances, but I'm tempted to get it for completeness. It's roughly 1% of my pre-tax cost.

 

We got ACC and LCA but purposely avoided LKA. Everyone I've talked to who has driven a car with this function, regardless of car brand, turned it off because they found it annoying and/or it didn't fit their driving style/road conditions (how well lines are painted, etc).

Having said that I don't have any personal experience with it so hopefully someone who does will respond with first hand information.

 

Comments from Spain on LKA

I have not tried LKA. These comments are from Enrique Moro:

http://www.macanforum.com/forum/new...ductions/9274-hello-madrid-marbella-spain-here-my-first-driving-experience.html


I absolutely recommend two options:
A.- Adaptive cruise control incl. Porsche Active Safe: your car do all you need to keep your speed but to break your car by itself considering the cars in front of you... Absolutely fine and safe.

B.- Lane Keep Assist (LKA): the work of this option is very remarkable. Any time you are on the line or go through the line you hear a very soft noise and you a can feel in your hands how your steering wheel correct your direction.... Really softly and smoothly... Nice sensation... Nothing strange... Nothing wrong... You feel how your car drive WITH you...

I have felt a very new driving experience today with the macan and specially with this two options, new for me... Nice safety sensation... Not more expensive than many others options not so useful...

 

I have a question about PAS. If you are driving at low speed (say ~30mph) on city streets and getting close to the car in front of you, will PAS automatically brake the car to prevent a collision?

 

At 30 mph (but see comment below 20mph below), the ACC if engaged will stop you, as will the PAS if ACC is not engaged. I've had mine for 3 days now and still don't know with 100% confidence how this all works - I'm 98% there - here's what the manual says:

Page 181 - "All "Active Safe" functions are active for speeds above 20 mph". I think that's just a definition thing as below that ACC works for you in stopping if engaged at ANY speed. The thing I'm not sure about is if you DON'T have ACC engaged then below 20 mph are you at risk of running into the guy at the red light if you don't brake - anyone know? (Not something I'm going to experiment with).

So I think the main intention of PAS is to keep you and others alive. No bad thing. Regardless the manual also says (page 181 under PAS section) "If the radar sensor detects that the vehicle is coming critically close to a moving vehicle and at the same time, the driver is not braking hard enough, brake pressure can be increased accordingly, if necessary the vehicle can be fully braked." Frankly I'm confused about how it 'fully brakes' when the PAS is active for speeds above 20 mph only as per above. And what if you have the foot firmly on the gas without ACC on, does that over-ride PAS - I wouldn't bet my life on it. Obviously if you are doing 100mph then the laws of physics may make PAS ineffective if some guy pulls out of a side road near ahead - common sense is always needed.

Anyway, ACC is a must, I can't state this enough. Today's roads (for most people) are chock full of traffic, and old style CC is a pain. ACC reduces fatigue in fast and slow traffic. On a three hour drive on a Friday late afternoon you are going to arrive fresher than the guy doing the braking and accelerating manually (or constantly fidgeting with standard CC).

Also, near home I have a 2 mile curvy 40 mph limit road with double center lines, most normal people do 40-45 or so but (too) often you get people doing 35 or often less - fair enough they may be 85 yr olds with poor eyesight and reflexes and I'm glad they are being responsible, but it's a pain.... anyway I noticed today that with the 1 second gap (the minimum) it kinda takes away the annoyance factor as I don't have discretion over the throttle (I had a slow coach in front again), it's just mellow. I sometimes think people deliberately try to slow down flashy cars - it's happened to me before once or twice, not that I speed recklessly, although maybe I'm being paranoid.

Point is though that it can stop you being an aggressive driver, it is safe, it is less fatiguing, and it's optional depending on your mood. I'd want it for my loved ones for sure. I was seriously thinking today about what's lacking - how about automatic stopping for red lights and stop signs - I bet it's mandated on new cars by 2025...

As for Lane Keep - if you have come across haptic feedback on a smartphone, that's kinda what it feels like in a sense. It will actually steer the car around a bend by itself without any hands touching the wheel (then it warns you not to be an ass) and I think there's a good reason it's included. But it's quite easy to over-ride and that 'haptic' feel is just to guide you. It's a highway thing, and it works at night with decent lane markings. You can use it off highway but why would you.... I'm all about safety first before performance so these things are not to be sniffed at imo....

 

We ordered our Macan Turbo with every performance, safety, and lighting option. After 3,300 miles on our ED trip in seven countries, we would do it exactly the same again. Strange roads, driving behavior, and surroundings make all of the options useful at some point. Safety option positives for us:
* The Adaptive Cruise Control tracks motorcycles in addition to other vehicles all the way to a stop, and it will start again with a tap on the gas or with Resume on the cruise control. The default 3 second gap probably helped keep us from getting ANY rock chips on the paint or windshield in 3,300 miles (it and the French motorway lines also trained me to stay further behind). The cruise control resumes smoothly in normal mode, but will snap your head back in Sport or Sport+.
* Porsche Active Safe does not hesitate to warn you if you are too fast or too close to something ahead. I tried to see if it would stop the car at low speeds, but it got too close for comfort multiple times, so I braked the car. PAS also warned me that maximum speed had been exceeded when I drove the all-season tires over 240 km/h.
* Lane Change Awareness is much better than I expected - there are no sounds, just a great set of orange lights on the mirrors that grow taller as danger increases. They not only detect traffic in your blind spot, they detect fast-moving traffic that is about to be in your blind spot (including motorcycles). The were a life-saver on the German autobahn.
* Lane Keep Assist is a good motorway tool, but may drive you nuts if you use it on curvy roads. It lightly bumps the steering wheel away from the offending line and will ping-pong between lines if the road is relatively flat and you do not touch the wheel. with no hands on the wheel, after awhile, it will warn the idiot behind the wheel to drive the car, especially if it cannot correct for the crown in the road. If you cross a line, it makes a noise similar to a Cylon from BattleStar Galactica. I was impressed with its ability to see poorly marked lines or even road edges instead of lines. It is a good tool for long motorway or freeway trips.
* The backup camera is a must, even if it is only for the safety of small children in shopping malls or driveways. Ignore the comments about it being fuzzy - there is more than enough detail to see clearly over a large area day or night. And the projected tracking lines of your wheel path are perfect. Also, the "B" pillar is very wide and will hinder your rear view if you drive with the seat all the way back. You will never regret the purchase.

 

While I tend to buy lot cars, and finding a lot car with ACC is nigh impossible, now that I've used it in my wife's new Lexus Rx350 I really like it, more for the safety it affords than anything else.

I'm not a cruise control user. However, it's really nice to be able to set it and have it keep its distance, even come to a complete stop. Doesn't seem to get going again after a full stop, but that's fine.

Last night we were in heavy traffic, moving 5-10 mph at most for 20 minutes. I didn't have to touch the brake once. That is a really nice feature.

if I were ordering a new Macan, or buying any other car for that matter, ACC with forward collision warning and automatic braking would be on my list of must haves.

 

I have ACC, PAS and LKA & LCA. They all work (LKA if the lane markings are good). There does seem to be an unanswered question about PAS and whether or not it will actually stop the car without driver assistance. Have seen many a post regarding this but no one seems to have confirmed it actually works. Many post speak of the audible and visual warnings but not if it works without the driver applying the primed brakes prior to hitting something.

 

I've always been curious as well. I know it saved my butt on one occasion when it alarmed and I believe pre-loaded the brakes, but I also slammed on the brakes prior to any harm being done. Not sure I want to risk the car to find out if it actually stops autonomously.