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I'm getting a GTS with no pano, roof rails, or Bose box in the trunk. Look out turbos! 'Course the extra $9k in my pocket will offset that weight advantage somewhat.:laugh:
 
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I'm getting a GTS with no pano, roof rails, or Bose box in the trunk. Look out turbos! 'Course the extra $9k in my pocket will offset that weight advantage somewhat.:laugh:

Ah and don't forget not to order the smokers package. That lid on the hole is a tad heavy ;)


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Someone must have cried really hard to powers that be, because a lengthy post I had written earlier is strangely missing.

I guess that is how things go around here, dissent is not tolerated when facts are presented.

Facts always are tough to accept........so the truncated version is this.

GTS build of mine with the extra's I ordered compared to a Turbo would be between $13k and $19k less expensive than a Turbo with 40 less HP and 37 TQ/LBS less.

So with that in mind you can decide if having the "fastest" mathematically is worth almost $20k, for that kind of $$$$ I can buy a whole more enjoyment and still own a Macan.

Lets see if this one stays around..........facts are sure stubborn, but that is life !!!
 
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I'm just happy my car eventually showed up and now I have something to drive.
 
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I cringed when I say the post for fear of seeing another one of those type of threads....Good thing is that we all agree on these:

Turbo is faster than the GTS

S/GTS/Turbo/Base/Diesel are mad fun if not we will all be shopping for something else.

Disagreement is often on if the GTS the is sportiest or close to the turbo on certain metrics...

Well, here on the forum some of us went from S to GTS and are happy. Right before our eyes @Luke my man, switched from GTS to Turbo so he can sleep at night and @yrralis1, my uncle went from turbo to the GTS and raves about it. On this same forum @RJMcInnis disown me as my forum dad and since then I shut up about my GTS even though am still honeymooning with this thing 2 months later:).

We all made the right choices and available options to lower or mod for more power (warranty issues? :)) should make us all happy ...Happy MaCaning Y'all!!!
 
Someone must have cried really hard to powers that be, because a lengthy post I had written earlier is strangely missing.

I guess that is how things go around here, dissent is not tolerated when facts are presented.

Facts always are tough to accept........so the truncated version is this.

GTS build of mine with the extra's I ordered compared to a Turbo would be between $13k and $19k less expensive than a Turbo with 40 less HP and 37 TQ/LBS less.

So with that in mind you can decide if having the "fastest" mathematically is worth almost $20k, for that kind of $$$$ I can buy a whole more enjoyment and still own a Macan.

Lets see if this one stays around..........facts are sure stubborn, but that is life !!!
what is your issue, i am glad you like your GTS, it fits what you wanted at the price you wanted to pay, bravo.

i decided turbo, always do over the base, s, gts. i like having the flagship with the max power, thats my fact. really don't understand what you are trying to prove with your "facts" and "stats"

i am glad you like your gts but quit trying to make it sound like others who choose the turbo made a mistake or bad decision because there ones fact thats important, its my money and i really dig the Turbo

anytime you throw "savings" into the equation you pretty much lose any credibility as far as I'm concerned
 
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And, to each, his own.

If I could justify the expense, would I have purchased a Turbo? Certainly. I like beastly power. However, as I realized this evening on the way home: my Macan S has enough power and acceleration to VERY quickly get me into trouble. So, I admittedly would love to have the additional grin-producing 60 HP and associated torque, just for the rush, but the performance of my S certainly is nothing at which to sneeze.

We all have exceptional autos, each and every Macan owner.
 
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I scratch my head reading this thread . I come out declaring that that Turbo is faster 0-60,1/4 mile ,rolling start and there is no doubt . I then point to the one little feature about how the acceleration is managed where I feel the GTS has an edge and it's not ok ?

Maybe @grim ought to close the thread .
 
I scratch my head reading this thread . I come out declaring that that Turbo is faster 0-60,1/4 mile ,rolling start and there is no doubt . I then point to the one little feature about how the acceleration is managed where I feel the GTS has an edge and it's not ok ?

Maybe @grim ought to close the thread .
Opinions are allowed, but only if "you" agree with the opinion, if not posts that are not of the majorities opinion get deleted and threads get locked around here it seems.

I guess not everyone can voice their opinion and have a spirited discussion and state the reasons for thinking the way they do, without crying and deleted posts by paranoid individuals who think only their opinion matters.

I frequent lots of forums, this by far is the most uptight, must be a Porsche thing, too many doctors and lawyers around here............>:D

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what is your issue, i am glad you like your GTS, it fits what you wanted at the price you wanted to pay, bravo.

i decided turbo, always do over the base, s, gts. i like having the flagship with the max power, thats my fact. really don't understand what you are trying to prove with your "facts" and "stats"

i am glad you like your gts but quit trying to make it sound like others who choose the turbo made a mistake or bad decision because there ones fact thats important, its my money and i really dig the Turbo

anytime you throw "savings" into the equation you pretty much lose any credibility as far as I'm concerned
There is no correlation between final cost and actual value for that expenditure ??

Wow, my way of living my life is wrong I guess, maybe I'll walk in and pay full price next time I order a car and buy all those expensive dealer options because somehow they are better because the Porsche dealer sold them to me??

I like fast and powerful vehicles as well, as you can see I have a few other expensive toys........but the extra cost for a Turbo and the little bit more in performance was not necessary in my decision once the costs was weighed.

I chose not to have the "flagship", sounds to me like you had to have it, so good for you.

I assume being the buyer you are as soon as the Turbo S comes out you will happily trade in and lose a ton of $$$$ to have the new 'Flagship"

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Someone must have cried really hard to powers that be, because a lengthy post I had written earlier is strangely missing.

I guess that is how things go around here, dissent is not tolerated when facts are presented.

Facts always are tough to accept........so the truncated version is this.

GTS build of mine with the extra's I ordered compared to a Turbo would be between $13k and $19k less expensive than a Turbo with 40 less HP and 37 TQ/LBS less.

So with that in mind you can decide if having the "fastest" mathematically is worth almost $20k, for that kind of $$$$ I can buy a whole more enjoyment and still own a Macan.

Lets see if this one stays around..........facts are sure stubborn, but that is life !!!
So, we'll put you down as a "Maybe" as to whether the GTS is a better choice vs. the Turbo.
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So, we'll put you down as a "Maybe" as to whether the GTS is a better choice vs. the Turbo.
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Maybe, or Possibly, depending on whether your glass is half full or half empty.

Both are great, in fact even the S is quite enjoyable to drive, there comes a point when even the cost of something outweighs the benefit derived from ownership.

If you have to have it, I get it, if you just want it, I get it, if you need it and cannot do without it, I get it.

But its value IMHO vs. its cost was not worth it to me.

Facts are the Turbo is faster, Porsche has proven so, feedback is it feels faster but also the GTS feels more nimble and responsive at low speeds, perception or reality, you decide.

Again, for most people's everyday driving you won't see the full benefits of the power increase as you run out of real estate fast and unless you track you $90K SUV ( Why would you ? ) its of no real benefit.

Its like the guy who drives his Lambo down Las Vegas Blvd, yeah your driving supercar, how fast can you really go in traffic.

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the debate is silly and stupid. porsche has built the gts to fill a financial void just like they did/do for the 911/cayenne/panemera.

turbo s
turbo
gts
s
base

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For those people new to the marque, this is the standard trim lineup. The 986/987/981 have no "turbo" variants because the "Turbo" nameplate used to really mean "turbo". There was no equivalent. The Macan was a bit strange in that they are all "turbos" and now the nameplate "Turbo" truly means flagship vice "turbo" and implied street performance (vice track performance, for which you want the "GT" cars).

There is nothing special here. The GTS is meant to fill a pricing void. It USUALLY comes out in the 3rd or last year of the production cycle. It's meant to give a sales boost in normally the time sales are lagging because everyone knows a facelift version within the production cycle is coming. A simple example is the 2012 997.2 GTS vs 2012 991.1 S. Wait 6 months, as it was a split year, and the new lower level car is faster than the car sold 6 months prior.

You all do know the same thing will happen with the Macan, right? Boost sales at the end of the production cycle? Expect the next S to be just as fast, probably faster than the current GTS.

And Porsche does this marketing very well. It gots LOTS of new buyers here. Good on them. And on yeah, all the GTS cars standard color is Carmine. Sure sounds like good branding to me. Of course you can do PTS.


Someone must have cried really hard to powers that be, because a lengthy post I had written earlier is strangely missing.

I guess that is how things go around here, dissent is not tolerated when facts are presented.

Facts always are tough to accept........so the truncated version is this.

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Lets see if this one stays around..........facts are sure stubborn, but that is life !!!
NO POST has been deleted from this thread. I just read this thread and could see if any were deleted by others. There are none. Before you accuse someone of doing something, be sure to get your facts straight.

Opinions are allowed, but only if "you" agree with the opinion, if not posts that are not of the majorities opinion get deleted and threads get locked around here it seems.

I guess not everyone can voice their opinion and have a spirited discussion and state the reasons for thinking the way they do, without crying and deleted posts by paranoid individuals who think only their opinion matters.

I frequent lots of forums, this by far is the most uptight, must be a Porsche thing, too many doctors and lawyers around here............>:D

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Really? Again the same accusation in the same thread. No post have been deleted in this thread. And frankly I'm getting tired of reading this. :mad: Yes, this used to be a friendly place. It's not the Corvette forum. But now it seems we have some people who want to argue just to argue.

Do you understand what you are arguing about? Nothing. Buy whatever you want. You do not need to rationalize it nor justify it to anyone - or defend it. If you don't want to read what others said, then don't read it. If you want to completely ignore them, then put them on your ignore list. Do not accuse anyone of deleted posts again unless you have definitive proof as now you are trolling and I'm getting tired of getting summoned to threads where there is conflict.

Maybe @grim ought to close the thread .
As you are the OP, and this purpose of this thread was to discuss acceleration curves of the two models, and you have owned them both, as requested. Locked.

Unless someone else here has owned both models, and has the experience to compare the two, let me know and I will reopen it. Paper racing is a fruitless exercise.
 
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