[Mark's M]

Looks like jealousy is another one of your unfortunate traits. I'm sorry that my ability to afford many vehicles per year has you so butt hurt. I really hope you find happiness in your life. Wishing you the best.

Lol, wrong again junior but good comeback. Says it all!!

 

[Flywithmike]

The 2018 SQ5 has a single turbo nestled in between the cylinder banks vs twin turbo on the Macan S if that matters to anyone. I'm thinking it was engineered that way for cost reasons. The SQ5 only needs a single turbo, intercooler, wastgate, etc.

 

[addicted]

I love the Macan looks but i feel the newest Sq5 is very nice too .

I think one area where Audi is excelling lately is in the new virtual cockpit interface. It's responsive, customizable, easy to navigate and has a lot of neat features. Even if you are traditionally not a tech guy it is something you notice right away. I would argue it's the best interface in the biz right now and Audi has done a great job integrating it into all their cars this year, albeit you have to pay for it.

 

[yrralis1]

I think one area where Audi is excelling lately is in the new virtual cockpit interface. It's responsive, customizable, easy to navigate and has a lot of neat features. Even if you are traditionally not a tech guy it is something you notice right away. I would argue it's the best interface in the biz right now and Audi has done a great job integrating it into all their cars this year.

This was actually thing that my friend noticed and spoke of to me . He was excited about it . I just listened . This I would have to see as I have expressed I am not very tech focused . I have decided with my next car i will actually order a few things to learn about them more .

 

[addicted]

This was actually thing that my friend noticed and spoke of to me . He was excited about it . I just listened . This I would have to see as I have expressed I am not very tech focused . I have decided with my next car i will actually order a few things to learn about them more .

As long as you don't get intimidated by the small learning curve I think you will like it. Definitely check it out next time you're around an Audi dealership.

 

[PMSA7]

Just a few comments on looks ---

For example if someone asked me to name a 20K priced economy car which has safety, technology , resale , and good gas mileage hands down it would be the Honda Civic but it truly is an odd looking car .

IMO, the smart driver focused choice in this category is the Mazda3. Looks good and is fun to drive.

 

[jzwu]

I love competition, which makes future products better, so I am not looking down on any brands/models even though I do have my own brand preferences or biases.

I hope the new Q5/SQ5 will be better than the last generation (but I probably still won't buy one), and likewise the next generation Macan will be better than the current one.

 

[flash gordon]

I did the test drive of previous model SQ5 before I bought the Macan S last May. I must say the, power, and handling were very good. The brakes, to me, had a better feel than the touchy Macan at slow speed. The main reason for choosing the Macan was because the Audi dealer told me it would take several months to process the order due to the new model. The Porsche dealer had the car with the options that I liked.

 

[windblow]

IMO, the smart driver focused choice in this category is the Mazda3. Looks good and is fun to drive.

Mazda vs Honda... this is a Porsche forum

 

[Antidentite]

I cross-shopped the SQ5 prior to buying my GTS but didn't want to get stuck with the last model year for that vehicle. The GTS was a 'new' model and I really liked the many buttons and interior layout much better.

I figured that once the new SQ5 was released, it would just build on the Macan and I had a feeling that I'd have a bit of buyers remorse about my GTS. Thankfully after seeing the new SQ5 I've got no remorse at all.

While I love some of the touches of the Audi such as the motion of the LED's, the ambient interior lighting and some features of the instrument panel, to me it's still a little too "Audi." The nav screen placement looks like an afterthought, there aren't nearly enough buttons for me, and I'm not a fan of it being built in Mexico. But I'm sure it's going to be fast and the exhaust will sound awesome; it's just not for me.

Thankfully it just reinforces my decision to purchase the Macan!

 

[maxdbunny]

I too looked at a SQ5 as well but when it came time to talk price, Audi wouldn't really play. They only were going to give me a $1250 discount as where my Macan S was cheaper than a somewhat similarly priced SQ5...

 

[WHT TGR]

I too looked at a SQ5 as well but when it came time to talk price, Audi wouldn't really play. They only were going to give me a $1250 discount as where my Macan S was cheaper than a somewhat similarly priced SQ5...

So sad you had to settle for a Porsche Macan. Hope the performance, handling and the look of the Macan grows on you


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[maxdbunny]

I too looked at a SQ5 as well but when it came time to talk price, Audi wouldn't really play. They only were going to give me a $1250 discount as where my Macan S was cheaper than a somewhat similarly priced SQ5...

So sad you had to settle for a Porsche Macan. Hope the performance, handling and the look of the Macan grows on you

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I know! Slumming it over here. Actually it was rather surprising, I thought the inverse would happen.

 

[jdntea]

Enjoyed my Q5 but PSE, sport chrono and air pasm will keep me a macan fan for a while. Hopefully we will get a little more legroom in the back on the next refresh since the Q5 platform grew this generation.

 

[keninblaine]

I've peaked at this thread a few times over the past few days. These types of discussions unfortunately often devolve into tiresome exchanges. I just use them as a source of food for thought, since I like to keep abreast of other potentially interesting vehicles.

I had nothing to add to the discussion, but after reading the latest Panorama magazine today, I felt compelled to address one of Larry's statements from the weekend:

1) I have also voiced on this forum that Porsche should not have built this 4 cylinder Macan .

Like the initial Cayenne, which many people thought Porsche was crazy to introduce, the Macan now (November) accounts for more North American sales than the other non-SUV Porsche models COMBINED. And, the 4-cylinder Macan accounted for 40% of Macan sales in North America. So while the 4-cylinder Macan is not as high a performer as lots of other cars, it is helping to provide the economic juice needed for Porsche to keep offering us the "real" Porsches.

 

[fincher]

Agree on the tiresome aspect. Those who have the higher trim levels and don't like the fact there is a Base trim need to get over it. The Base is here to stay.

 

[2thguy]

IMO, the smart driver focused choice in this category is the Mazda3. Looks good and is fun to drive.

My youngest daughter is looking in this category of car and in her demographic, the Mazda3 gets a thumbs down for one big reason, NO Apple Car Play or Android Auto. Most of them love the new Civic. Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.......

 

[yrralis1]

I had nothing to add to the discussion, but after reading the latest Panorama magazine today, I felt compelled to address one of Larry's statements from the weekend:


Like the initial Cayenne, which many people thought Porsche was crazy to introduce, the Macan now (November) accounts for more North American sales than the other non-SUV Porsche models COMBINED. And, the 4-cylinder Macan accounted for 40% of Macan sales in North America. So while the 4-cylinder Macan is not as high a performer as lots of other cars, it is helping to provide the economic juice needed for Porsche to keep offering us the "real" Porsches.

This is true but i find it sad . There once was a time where Porsche built its success on striving to make the best car . When that car gained recognition it sold and as it achieved awards it sold even more .

With the base Macan I feel Porsche is pocketing huge profits off thew hopes and dreams of those who simply want to feel like "its a Porsche" . They over charge for the same options which cost less on the higher trim so the person who really is struggling to buy the car ends up paying more . In short they are profiteering from the person who can least afford it and they are doing it by offering mediocrity instead of the best.

And if all that research makes it so they can build a handful of 918's for an elite group of shoppers then I feel they ought not build that either if this is where they got the money to do it .

 

[fincher]

Huh? It's not as if Porsche is not making the higher trims. It's making additional trims and offering more choice. You're also assuming Base buyers can least afford it or are struggling to do it. Seriously? Don't understand your logic. Most importantly, anyone can build a Macan any which way ... can load up on a Base or slim down on a S or GTS, etc. Or, just buy a nicely optioned lot car.

You're pining for a yesteryear that's long gone.


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[yrralis1]

Huh? It's not as if Porsche is not making the higher trims. It's making additional trims and offering more choice. You're also assuming Base buyers can least afford it or are struggling to do it. Seriously? Don't understand your logic. Most importantly, anyone can build a Macan any which way ... can load up on a Base or slim down on a S or GTS, etc. Or, just buy a nicely optioned lot car.

You're pining for a yesteryear that's long gone.


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Look at the configurator. Identical options are priced higher on the base Macan . RS wheels are 3300 !!! They are 1650 on an S and free on a GTS . It's the same wheel !!!

That's just one option but this is the case with most of the options . Thus ANYTHING added to a base adds up the price and upon resale those optins are worthless . The person is paying more to get less.

And yes the person is financially cognizant of his expense . Look at all the threads on this forum asking if option A or B is worth the price .
For some people the extra 5 , 10, 15 grand is a deal breaker.
Before some one buys a car or passes it up he considers the logistics of a big ticket expense and with the decision often comes an internal struggle . The Porsche configurator with staggered pricing sure does not help ease the choice .