For those not familiar with the OP's earlier thread on the topic, here are a couple of links.....

http://www.macanforum.com/forum/wheels-tires-suspension/152937-lower-bottum.html

http://www.macanforum.com/forum/whe...om/forum/wheels-tires-suspension/153242-pics-21-winter-rims-h-r-suspension.html

In a nutshell, his dealership sourced a Macan S which had been lowered with H&R springs, rather than finding him one with Air Suspension.

As far as I know, this is the first example on this forum of GTS steel springs (from a European Spec GTS) being retrofitted to a Macan S with PASM.
@BrianMobil , nice to hear about your experience with this. Thanks for posting!

 

Thanks for Update friend ???, just to make sure for all, its a Turbo with 21” , and the upper pic is with H&R, lower pic is with the GTS springs.
The car is wraped ??.

 

Whats the part number for GTS springs

 

For all model with steel springs, there are several sets of springs depending on the weight class of your vehicle.....and the weight class depends on what options are on the car.

You can look at your existing springs to see what color coding they are marked with....usually a couple of paint slashes like silver & green, yellow & blue, or grey & violet, to name a few. Then look in the parts catalog to find your existing springs, and use the associated model code to work backwards to what weight class your car is. Once you know that, you (or the parts counter employee) can look-up the correct set of GTS springs.

Note that the GTS steel spring option only works if your car is already equipped with PASM. If you don't have PASM, you'll have to consider an aftermarket alternative instead.

If you want to try your hand at looking through the parts catalog, you'll find it on the Porsche website linked below. Use the drop down menu towards the bottom of the page to select the Macan catalog.
Hope that helps!

https://www.porsche.com/usa/accesso...a/accessoriesandservices/porscheservice/serviceandorgininalparts/originalparts/

 

Hello BrianMobil, thank you for posting this! I have also considered lowering my turbo. Since I would like to keep a stock PASM shock, very limited selections, H&R, Eibach or GTS's one. If GTS's one works fine especially ride quality, I want to go. Is only spring change required? I have asked Suncoast parts but they said they do not know if it works. I will ask my dealer. Thanks again.

 

Yes, its only thet springs that is replaced. The h&r springs has damaged som “rubber-parts” on top of the springs, and the PASM dident work (i hsvent seen this The rubber is also replaced and the pasm now works very fine, i am so satifised ?)))

 

Does anyone have the alignment specs for the EU spec GTS with steel springs? I'd like to lower my Macan S with the Eibach spring and wanted to revise my geometry (alignment settings) as close to the EU spec GTS as closed as possible.


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Does anyone have the alignment specs for the EU spec GTS with steel springs? .....

I don't have the alignment spec's for the EU GTS, but toe & rear camber are the only adjustments available.

You might want to have a look at post number 10 in the following thread for some insight on the settings.
Depending on your goals, you might be able to improve on the GTS alignment spec's.

http://www.macanforum.com/forum/whe...3-000km-four-fronts-later-4-wheel-alignment-required-latitude-sport-3-w00t.html

 

Hello, I have finally installed GTS(turbo PP in case of turbo?) spring to my turbo. I just received my car this evening and did not have much time to drive and check but ride quality was fine. Front 95B 411 105 BB 504 and Rear 95B 511 115 AJ 504 have been installed but there is one issue rear height becomes 2cm higher than previous ? even though front down 1.5cm. I will ask shop tomorrow but I can not see any other parts which impact on height on v-page(parts catalog). Concave washer upper/lower are just btw the spring and car body but those parts are the same across models. Does anyone have any idea of this? I also got GTS alignment spec so I will put it later. I think Japan GTS is the same as EU.

 

First time post here, I have also installed Turbo PP spring to my turbo this week and have observed the same issue where the rear height is now slightly higher then the original spring. The workshop guy told me that it would takes a few weeks for the rear spring to settle in to the right angle and thus lower down further. Not sure if what he was saying is true. will report back after few weeks

 

Thank you so much SoCalS5,
According to my weight class code (rear 0YB - class 2) (front 0JK - class 10), the corresponding TurboPP (DU3) or GTS (E0W) should be 95B 411 105 BB for front, and 95B 511 115 AE for rear.

The installer ordered rear 95B 511 115 AJ instead, this one is marked as 0YJ (weight class 9). I think this is probably why my rear is sitting higher than before. I am communicating with my installer right now about this issue.

Thanks again for your help, some good lessons learned :nerd:
p.s. interesting to see that both TurboPP and GTS use the same springs too (no differences in spring part numbers between DU3, E0W)

 

....According to my weight class code (rear 0YB - class 2) (front 0JK - class 10), the corresponding TurboPP (DU3) or GTS (E0W) should be 95B 411 105 BB for front, and 95B 511 115 AE for rear.....

Ah, good. Those are the part numbers I was assuming were for the TurboPP springs and your weight class. I just wasn't positive the DU3 designation corresponded to the TurboPP....although it seemed to make sense that it would.
Glad you've got a possible remedy to pursue. Keep us posted.

 

Another suggestion: Be sure your installer torqued all fittings while the weight of the vehicle was on the springs, not while suspended. If not, they should drive the vehicle onto a ramp, un-torque, then re-torque.

 

Sticks and mirrors are so Hyundai , we are Porsche here ?

 

Can i double check, we are talking about the mark on the second lowest turn beside the rectangle white sticker ?

 

Ok, I see your question now. The green mark a few coils above in the previous example looks more like an inspection sticker than a paint marking. And I am used to seeing the paint markings side-by-side on the same coil.....so perhaps there is a second color next to the yellow one that we can't see well from that angle.

Here is a better example, this time from the Macan's rear springs, where you can clearly see the two paint markings.....and they are side-by-side.

 

how much would I expect to pay @ an indy shop to install the H&R springs?


Would there be anything else I'd need to buy other than what comes in the box w/ the springs? Does H&R offer different models for the Macan S based on the car's weight?

 

how much would I expect to pay @ an indy shop to install the H&R springs?.....

Depending on your location and the shop, probably in the $1000 to $1200 range would be my guess.

 

HR is matched to the standard shocks not the car weight as such. Why not consider KW height adjustable springs as you can vary the height later on ?

 

@Hi-Toro any updates on your quest for proper GTS springs?

 

This Covid business has put a stop to almost everything. I have the springs but don't want the service team at my dealership to have to spend extra time exposed to each other apart from the usual needed for a routine service. I shall be adding PSE as well as having the calipers painted red while putting on the new springs which I shall ask them to do once all this blows over. This will also include adding the missing parts in the engine bay being the lateral covers and a double strut torsion bar. I also bought a set of GTS alloys for a great price so may change silver to black also at the same time !

 

@Hi-Toro thanks for the update. How did you go about finding the right part numbers for the GTS springs? (Sorry if I missed that.)

 

You can provide your vin number to either Stuttcars or Suncoast and they will provide you with a printout for about $10. The printout specific to your car includes the front and rear axel weight classes for your car. You can then ask your dealer to order the GTS springs for your weight classes.

 

Wanted to chime in with an additional variable to consider. The comments about "I installed the lowering springs and the car sits at the same height" triggered this. I have a lot of experience tunin the suspension of the Macan's cousin (B8.5 Audi SQ5) and various other cars.

Key thing to consider and research is whether the GTS springs are matched with a different bump-stop (aka helper spring). If so, then the lowering spring is going to put you in contact with the original helper spring at rest, resulting in less wheel travel, less lowering and a harsher ride.

Net: be sure to source the matched OE bumpstops with the springs.

I'd love it if someone would put together a spring+bumpstop package for the Macans to get then down to GTS height. A quick question because I hear comments re: "only works with PASM". are you saying this because the PASM / GTS springs are matched with PASM shocks on the GTS? Likely with different valving for the stiffer springs? Or is there something about the spring perches that would actually make it not fit?