YYC Pricing

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STIG

Discussion Starter · May 29, 2017

Hello
I am looking to Pull the trigger on a Macan GTS.
I am new to the Porsche family.
When it comes to negotiating the price what kind of wiggle room is there? Any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks

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CdnCarNut

· #2 · May 29, 2017

Hey Stig, great user name.

There is lots of discussion in the forum about pricing. The general consensus is that in Canada, you will pay sticker price regardless of MY17 or MY18 or location. Having said that, you might get the all weather mats thrown in and a small discount (total <$1000). In Canada, the MY18 is likely a better deal because you get the Nav system included in the base price. Also, the pricing seems to be a bit better in Canada than the US, but that is likely due to slightly different content.

BTW, wife and I were originally born in Calgary, but now live in SW Ontario (3 h from YYZ)

Cheers!

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STIG

Discussion Starter · #3 · May 29, 2017

CdnCarNut said:
Hey Stig, great user name.

There is lots of discussion in the forum about pricing. The general consensus is that in Canada, you will pay sticker price regardless of MY17 or MY18 or location. Having said that, you might get the all weather mats thrown in and a small discount (total <$1000). In Canada, the MY18 is likely a better deal because you get the Nav system included in the base price. Also, the pricing seems to be a bit better in Canada than the US, but that is likely due to slightly different content.

BTW, wife and I were originally born in Calgary, but now live in SW Ontario (3 h from YYZ)

Cheers!

Thanks for the quick response.
Yeah when I was checking for the user name I did a search and I couldn't believe that Stig was available

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It looks lie it will be a MY2018 because in Calgary there is no GTS in stock and the only one which is coming in is a Mid Night blue and I am not a big fan of that.

I am used to getting 10% Off the MSRP from BMW so this is going to be a shock :|

My wife was born in Sudbury and I lived in TO for just under a year. I love TO but settled in Calgary.

M_GTS

· #4 · Jun 1, 2017

check edmonton
I believe they have a few GTSs available

its a short drive, I find the service in edmonton far better than calgary

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STIG

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jun 1, 2017

M_GTS said:
check edmonton
I believe they have a few GTSs available

its a short drive, I find the service in edmonton far better than calgary

Edmonton has one GTS . I am not super crazy about the exterior color of that GTS. I emailed them and waiting for them to get back to me.

Maitre_Absolut

· #6 · Jun 2, 2017

CdnCarNut said:
In Canada, the MY18 is likely a better deal because you get the Nav system included in the base price.

The base price was also increased 3k which is more than the 1.9k NAV option on the MY17.

Regardless, like everyone else said unless its a lot car you will pay MSRP or very close.

CdnCarNut

· #7 · Jun 2, 2017

Maitre_Absolut said:
The base price was also increased 3k which is more than the 1.9k NAV option on the MY17.

My reference was the S, where the price went up $2200 (I think), which is even closer to break-even.

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wkearney99

· #8 · Jun 2, 2017

Does Costco have auto services in Canada? They do in the US, and they have Porsche dealers in the program. I kid you not. Price through that was about 4% off MSRP, iirc.

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STIG

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 2, 2017

wkearney99 said:
Does Costco have auto services in Canada? They do in the US, and they have Porsche dealers in the program. I kid you not. Price through that was about 4% off MSRP, iirc.

Yes Costco does have auto services here in Canada. The only ones I have seen are for Ford and Lincoln.
Will check it out.

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STIG

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 7, 2017

I thought I will post an update , test drove a Macan S over the weekend and it is amazing.

Both dealers in Alberta have made it clear that they are not willing to move on the price of the GTS unless I am going to pick one from the lot. I know that will not be the case because I want it to be configured the way I want. Based on the allocation that is available to the dealers it looks like if I place an order now I will get my vehicle around October.

All the good news ends there

When I initially discussed the options with the dealer in town I was told that my trade in (2014 BMW 335 GT M Sport fully loaded with 66K) will be around 30k to 35k. I thought that was little bit on the lower side but I was optimistic that I will be able to get a slightly better trade in than what they quoted. Yesterday I was told that the trade in value for my car from the dealer will be 30k. - I think they are really trying to low ball me.
What you guys think?

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bobblehead

· #11 · Jun 7, 2017

your dealer is low balling you on the trade. I say $34,000 trade in would be fair (assuming it has M package, Prem & Exec)

As for the discount, in the Toronto area, people are now getting around 2-2.5% off on the Macan (custom ordered)

STIG

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jun 7, 2017

bobblehead said:
your dealer is low balling you on the trade. I say $34,000 trade in would be fair (assuming it has M package, Prem & Exec)

As for the discount, in the Toronto area, people are now getting around 2-2.5% off on the Macan (custom ordered)

My thoughts were the same. I was thinking 35k would be a fair value. Yes it has M Sports pack, Premium, Park Assist and Connected . It also has 3M protection, brand new summer tires went in about a week ago.

I will try to sell the car privately at this point in time.
I am going to contact some Toronto Dealers to see whether they are willing to sell a Macan to me. They may have to ship to me because otherwise I will be paying PST.

bobblehead

· #13 · Jun 7, 2017

If you are trying out dealers in Ontario, also try out Ottawa too.

Maitre_Absolut

· #14 · Jun 7, 2017

STIG said:
My thoughts were the same. I was thinking 35k would be a fair value. Yes it has M Sports pack, Premium, Park Assist and Connected . It also has 3M protection, brand new summer tires went in about a week ago.

I will try to sell the car privately at this point in time.
I am going to contact some Toronto Dealers to see whether they are willing to sell a Macan to me. They may have to ship to me because otherwise I will be paying PST.

Unless the recent opening of Porsche North Toronto has flooded the market with allocations, you will get the car sooner for less buying out west vs Toronto. Thats what I did to get my GTS.

Re your trade-in, you will always get low balled by the dealer. I sold my S4 for 8k more than the quoted trade in. There is a convenience fee in there, but the service is not worth 8k to me. I've never traded any car to a dealer.

Depreciation also seems very high for a BMW. I sold my 62k MSRP (paid 54k new off the lot) 2014 S4 for 44,250 in December (even 50k trade in value for me).

Leeski

· #15 · Jun 7, 2017

Sounds like a low ball to me .. My dealer in Langley BC offer was much the same on my trade in . Had no problem selling my Q5 for a easy 10k more privately with in two days. So look into it, helps pay for a upgrade with a Macan of your choice.

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Macanuck

· #16 · Jun 7, 2017

In Ontario they typically low ball by 13%. Because that is what you save in HST by trading rather than selling on your own and bringing cash to the table. So remember that when you are comparing what you can get on the open market, versus a trade. We were just offered C$12,500 on our 2012 Q5 by our Audi dealer. And they have a 2012 on the lot, similarly equipped with similar miles for C$21,500. Now THAT's a lowball offer! needless to say we walked away.

Mark's M

· #17 · Jun 7, 2017

STIG said:
I thought I will post an update , test drove a Macan S over the weekend and it is amazing.

Both dealers in Alberta have made it clear that they are not willing to move on the price of the GTS unless I am going to pick one from the lot. I know that will not be the case because I want it to be configured the way I want. Based on the allocation that is available to the dealers it looks like if I place an order now I will get my vehicle around October.

All the good news ends there
When I initially discussed the options with the dealer in town I was told that my trade in (2014 BMW 335 GT M Sport fully loaded with 66K) will be around 30k to 35k. I thought that was little bit on the lower side but I was optimistic that I will be able to get a slightly better trade in than what they quoted. Yesterday I was told that the trade in value for my car from the dealer will be 30k. - I think they are really trying to low ball me.
What you guys think?

Welcome to my world Stig. Re your trade in, we all pay the price when trading one brand for another. Re your discount in Canada, good luck. I was very fortunate with Porsche Centre Oakville but I was an exception to the rule and very grateful but my Macan was heavily optioned which helped during my negotiations. Good luck finding the "right" GTS, you'll no doubt end up ordering as most here have done but the wait is quite a PITA as my 9 months will attest lol. On a happy note, mine's finally here and will be picked up in a week or so. Best of luck!!

Maitre_Absolut

· #18 · Jun 7, 2017

Macanuck said:
In Ontario they typically low ball by 13%. Because that is what you save in HST by trading rather than selling on your own and bringing cash to the table. So remember that when you are comparing what you can get on the open market, versus a trade.

You can still get your 13% back on your private sale by passing it through the dealer. Invisible to the buyer as well. I've done that every single time I sold a car.

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Arnold_T

· #19 · Jun 8, 2017

Maitre_Absolut said:
You can still get your 13% back on your private sale by passing it through the dealer. Invisible to the buyer as well. I've done that every single time I sold a car.

I did that last time as well. Sold my Lexus through the Porsche dealer. I just had to bring the buyer, and pay the fee to the Porsche dealership to do the transaction that way. Saves thousands in taxes that way.

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Maitre_Absolut

· #20 · Jun 8, 2017 (Edited)

Arnold_T said:
I did that last time as well. Sold my Lexus through the Porsche dealer. I just had to bring the buyer, and pay the fee to the Porsche dealership to do the transaction that way. Saves thousands in taxes that way.

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Yeah the fee is usually 500$. My Porsche dealer did it for free this time.

Before deciding on the Macan I went to Audi Downtown Toronto to see the SQ5, told the salesman about selling my car through them to which he replied "that is illegal". After I insisted he check with the manager he came back and said its not illegal but "we dont do that here". After explaining to him it was worth 7k to me, he offered me a small discount to offset. LOL

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