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Within 30 days of being legally able to or guidance, I will NOT:

  • 1. attend an outdoor sporting event (e.g., HS baseball game)

    Votes: 75 73.5%
  • 2. attend an indoor sporting event (e.g., NBA or College basketball game)

    Votes: 88 86.3%
  • 3. attend or host an informal social gathering (e.g. party or outdoor BBQ)

    Votes: 39 38.2%
  • 4. attend or host a formal social gathering (e.g., wedding)

    Votes: 70 68.6%
  • 5. attend a formal public gathering (e.g., 4th of July event)

    Votes: 83 81.4%
  • 6. eat in a sit down restaurant or visit a bar

    Votes: 59 57.8%
  • 7. go to a movie, theater, or concert (other than a drive-in)

    Votes: 80 78.4%
  • 8. take my car for any kind of non-emergency service

    Votes: 23 22.5%
  • 9. have any kind of non-emergency service done inside my house, apartment, etc.

    Votes: 39 38.2%
  • 10. go to any kind of non-emergency medical appointment (e.g., routine physical, dental cleaning)

    Votes: 39 38.2%
  • 11. physically perform non-essential shopping (e.g., physically shop for luxuries, new clothes)

    Votes: 46 45.1%
  • 12. go to a public park, beach, town square, etc.

    Votes: 30 29.4%

  • Total voters
    102
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You bought some Jealous Devil? From Amazon? Expensive stuff. Does it really burn hotter and long than other lump charcoal? I got some too but haven't tried it yet because I got some cheap Home Depot/Lowes lump charcoal to finish up.

Is it really that good? That's touted by Harry Soo. I also got Harry's rubs and think they are very good.
I bought four 35 pound bags from Amazon back in April. When they were "only" $50 each. It is more expensive but I need so much less.
(edit: I just checked and the paper bags they sell for $50 again. I got the plastic so I don't know if there is a difference?)
Should last me well into the next year...
After some getting used to the big lumps I can now pretty much exactly dial in my Webber temperature dending on what's on.
I say yes, it definitely burns hotter and longer because I need less.
And much much cleaner. Very little and pure white ash is left in the end. Not this gross grey ash stuff.
Will never go back to the "cheap" coals.
 

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Will never go back to the "cheap" coals.
Nice. I was using briquets in the smoker simply because the smoker people were recommending it but gave up. After time the gray ash just smothered the heap of coal. I think thats why the lump was better for 8 hours of smoking. No doubt the lump is much less ash. I had some Royal Oak Lump from Lowes or Home Depot so using that up. But also bought some 8 lb bags of Jealous Devil. Just haven't got to them yet. 35 lbs is the way to go but I got to move them into smaller bags for easier storage. Gotta try the Devil soon. Sounds good.

Yeah, I would never go back to briquets ever again. I don't see the point of them. Now gotta go fire up the Weber. Its time :) 🍻🌭🍔 since I don't know when I'll ever being going to a restaurant again.
 

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Now gotta go fire up the Weber. Its time :) 🍻🌭🍔 since I don't know when I'll ever being going to a restaurant again.
Bon Appetit! Just finished our Sunday grill.
Fillet topped with mushroom, cambozola and shalotts. Grilled potatoes with butter-sour cream-chives-bacon. And steamed tomatoes and zucchini with feta and olive oil.
Finished with ben and jerry's chocolate therapy.
Only bummer is that I'm completely out of beer. :(
Forgot to order new cases of the German stuff in time...
Well, a good rum will suffice...pura vida. (y):)
 

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Yeah, I would never go back to briquets ever again. I don't see the point of them. Now gotta go fire up the Weber. Its time :) 🍻🌭🍔 since I don't know when I'll ever being going to a restaurant again.
Propane is SO much more convenient to cook with! At this point though I'd settle on christening our new Weber grill I assembled just last weekend for the new deck, but because of these pesky pop-up thunderstorms we've been having lately, my new grill is still a virgin!
 

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I have had a gas grill it seems forever. For my birthday, my wife and son bought me a Green Egg. It's a whole new learning experience. The one drawback is to make sure you only use charcoal because of the ceramic lining.

Tonight, steak on the Egg. We have some mashed potatoes from last night. Steam some green beans and also serve a bowl of Sugar Kissed cantaloupe. We have several versions at the store here: Sugar-kissed, sun-kissed, honey-kissed, Tuscan and regular cantaloupe.

The Sugar Kissed is the sweetest and no weird aftertaste. Oh, and a good bottle of red white.
 

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OK, the short answer is that if you believe anyone in primetime cable news channels then your listening to the opinion hosts, "the editorial page". Opinions are not hard news. IMO, want to see breaking news, worldwide? Watch CNN. To understand more about that, read From 2010 Dumb Like a Fox and

Fox News and CNN are 2 of America's biggest news sources — but they couldn't be more different. Here's how they've changed in the past decade.

No need to quote it. CNN did hard news. Fox did personalities. And then it changed.

CNN was launched in the 1980s. It made "news the star," and steered clear of politic bias. ... Zucker wanted to revamp CNN from a tired news station into something entertaining. Pew confirms in 2013. So the video, everyone was opinion hosts. Do you got Bret Baier, the hard news anchor, reporting incorrect hard news?

Did not the CNN opinion hosts endlessly tout Avennti? How did that work out? Did the hard news anchor, who I presume is Blitzer, on CNN do that? I don't know but did he? Before you say its a red herring, the principle is the same. ...

There needs to be a separation between that which is opinion and that which is reported as hard news. There are distinct differences on the networks. The former, IMO, caters to the audiences, the later, hopefully is accurate.
It's obvious that politically each station has bias but the line is drawn when virus misinformation influences and contributes to complacency, illness and death .
 

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Defending the constitution and your rights has zero to do with anyone's reaction to the virus. Nobody forces anyone to go out. Nobody says you MUST go to the store. But they DO say you can or cannot do things that infringe on the rights of everyone.

Do you know why the Bill of Rights exists? Its to protect you, me, everyone FROM THE GOVERNMENT. It doesn't say what the government "can" do. That's in the main body of the Constitution. The federalists thought no worries, it should be obvious that federal government was limited. Its already written into it. Why would anyone add anything else to it? But the states said oh no, add the rights of the people or they weren't signing. From Madison, 1829, who drafted the Bill of Rights.

It is sufficiently obvious, that Persons and Property, are the two great subjects on which Governments are to act: and that the rights of persons, and the rights of property are the objects for the protection of which Government was instituted. These rights cannot well be separated. The personal right to acquire property, which is a natural right, gives to property when acquired a right to protection as a social right. The essence of Government is power; and power lodged as it must be, in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse.

When you see statements of interest against states, is this not exactly what Madison was speaking of? As far as I see, all the cases going forward were because orders were not done even handily, but pick and choose, which one might think is exactly what Madison wrote.
I never argued whether one's "right" are legal but just because someone has the right does not mean its the wise choice to exert it (common sense) . There's a difference between rights and responsibilities .
 

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Trying to look at the bright side of the situation, I find it amazing that one can have literally everything delivered. Who knew?
Each time I order instacart it gives 2 people a job (one who does the shopping and one who delivers ). Some of the products are even cheaper . The best deal for us is cat litter . It's 4 dollars a bag less PLUS I we don't have to carry the bags or use our car. If one is picky it may pose a hiccup. For instance I can not ever get blue Dawn dish soap so if I were really picky and reject the idea of Palmolive then I am out of luck . There are times when being picky makes no sense because the rate of infection ids so high that my ptreffered dish soap wont do me any good .

I used to love to go food shopping . I get to pick my own food . Heck While Foods was even like a modeling fashion show . It was an outing ! Now its a dismal worrisome mess .

Instacart ..FTW !
 

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Propane is SO much more convenient to cook with! At this point though I'd settle on christening our new Weber grill I assembled just last weekend for the new deck, but because of these pesky pop-up thunderstorms we've been having lately, my new grill is still a virgin!
That's tiny. What's it going to look like when it grows up?
 

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According to the photo timer you must have had it for breakfast
Love breakfast pizza. Always on the lookout for the best breakfast pizza.
 
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I never argued whether one's "right" are legal but just because someone has the right does not mean its the wise choice to exert it (common sense) . There's a difference between rights and responsibilities .
Exactly.

Basically, a lot of conservatives value their own "perceived" personal rights above all else no matter what....even in the face of common sense or to the safety of others.
 

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Our Governor didn't lockdown long enough and look at today's news . (PS .. pause at 1min 45)
@yrralis1 I see a lot of news about Florida, Texas and Arizona and the bashing of their Governors (all Republicans) for reopening their states too early. So the question is: I can see a spike in people being tested positive for Covid but are people dying? There is a big difference between both since the majority of people that get the virus won't even need hospitalization. Here is a very interesting statistic to compare states that kept a much more strict lockdown vs others that didn't. Again, we are talking people dying which is what we all want to avoid.

US COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 people, by state, as of June 29, 2020 (U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista)

New Jersey: 167
New York: 161
Connecticut: 121
Georgia: 26
Arizona: 22
Florida: 15
Texas: 8
 

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@yrralis1 I see a lot of news about Florida, Texas and Arizona and the bashing of their Governors (all Republicans) for reopening their states too early. So the question is: I can see a spike in people being tested positive for Covid but are people dying?
Statistics. They tell "part" of the story but not the entire story. It depends upon how the statistics are displayed. Since its the young getting infected, and more testing, the numbers of infections goes up but the death rates goes down. Look at the chart as world meter. It think the median age of infections today is 40?
 

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Exactly.

Basically, conservatives value their own "perceived" personal rights above all else no matter what....even in the face of common sense or to the safety of others.
Rights are not perceived. They are real. Risks are also real but are perceived differently by different people. That's more of a libertarian vs socialist than a conservative vs liberal thing, but mostly it's just a different personal outlook on life. Some will accept no risk at all, staying home until it blows over. Others venture out carefully, mitigating most but not all risks. Some really are careless. I can’t change them so I won’t fret over them.

I’ll accept measured virus risks because life is full of risks of all types. The virus is just one risk of many. Meanwhile I see people masked up outdoors literally over fifty feet from the nearest human. I just can’t relate to living with level of fear, but to each his own.

We’ve attended our church the last two weeks. It reopened on Father’s Day with precautions and a 25% capacity limit. Yesterday we got an update on a former associate pastor who moved to Texas last fall. In March their 19 year old son was pronounced brain dead after in a car accident. Last week their 22 year old son here in Peoria went out for a run and collapsed. His funeral is later this week. He was engaged. They‘ve lost two of three adult children in 3 months. The virus isn’t our only threat/risk. Many living in fear of the virus will die of other causes before this is over.
 
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The activity I’m most concerned about as things reopen is going to the gym. I’ve been a gym rat my whole life. (Bought my first set of weights at 13). Before the virus I was at the local LA fitness 5-6 times a week. During the shutdown I was going to a college football buddy’s gym that was closed to customers but had a key so I could go anytime I wanted. Half the time I was the only person there. At most there was two or three other people there. Only a half dozen people have a key to get in. The routine felt pretty comfortable and safe.

Today was the first day that gyms were allowed to open in our area of PA, a Philly suburb. Stopped by the LA Fitness to check it out and how it was operating. About half the normal crowd, everyone was wearing a mask although they don't require masks on treadmills, stair machines, etc. Spray bottles were available for everyone to carry around as you work out.

The big thing I don’t feel great about is the age bracket of most of the members, probably 60% are in the 20‘s, to 40’s age brackets. Another issue is that you need to spend a fair amount of time there to work out. With grocery stores, convince stores, pharmacies most retail stores, if you have to go you can get in and out quickly. Just not ready to go back yet, especially with the recent uptick in cases amount the youngins .
I live in MN and we go to Lifetime Fitness since it is based here. I have been going for almost a month now and I am surprised with their plan to keep employees and members safe. First, only 25% of the capacity of the gym can be used. All employees have to wear masks. The gym is spotless and you need to be careful so an employee doesn't spray you with a cleaning product. There is an employee next to all weights and as soon as something is returned to the rack it is immediately disinfected. All machines are set so you have an idle machine between each other so you are never next to anyone. Classes are "by appointment" only so they manage the number of people attending. I attend a small team on Alpha and we train at the basketball court with only 6 people. I feel very safe. My kids are back to swimming and so far they are the only swimmers in the pool with their coach giving instructions outside. We have also been going to the outdoor pool and they places all lounge chairs 6 feet apart. Anytime someone touches the stair rails to go in our out the pool an employee sprays the metal handle and swipes it. People manage the distance inside the pool and you can smell chlorine so I doubt the virus survives that environment. So far I am very happy with their plan.
 

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So here are the tools I use to keep my sanity during the pandemic. As for ordering things online, I order most of the household stuff like soap, paper towels, toilet paper, etc... As for groceries I like to buy myself. Nobody from Instacart will pick the steak I want, the vegetables I want, etc... I am very picky with expiration dates and I love looking for new products, new brands, etc... I like shopping at Fresh Thyme, Trader Joes, Whole Foods and Costco. Some people find "their own time" by mowing the grass. I find my by buying food. :)
 

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For @yrralis1 and FL. The hotspots for infections have moved. A month ago it was Minneapolis and DC, now its FL, TX, and AZ. You might think I take this lightly because I defend the Constitution, everyone's rights guaranteed no matter who they are. But don't conflate caring that the Constitution is the Law of the Land and the rights of everyone with not also caring about the virus. I'm very cautious, use Instacart - I see no point in walking around the store. Since Phase III started, it was the first time I got take out since early March. I hate going into any interior space where you have to sit. I still abide by a 72 hour rule although I know fomites are not an issue, the risk extremely low. I have zero doubt that dead is dead. So follow this. This is what you might be up against now that the summer is here and the beach, the bars, the young, and all.

Remember this, Dr Fauci, in IMO a gentle way admonishing the young?


Remember what @//Bruce said?

The virus ... is so wide spread, contact tracing would be impossible at this time.
Dr. Fauci confirms


People won't answer their phone for whatever their reason. Do you? For the VOIP phone BV and now PV about in Phase II, but not during the lockdown, SPAM calls were, and now are, constant. I never answer it. Caller ID is useless. Spammers imitate names and phone numbers. You can't trust Caller ID. Cell Phone? Its never on. To me, its a phone. I only put it on when outside, alone and I want my wife to have communications, know where I am. Otherwise, its mostly dead weight. I only answer when expecting a call. Whats the next step? You might have heard Apple/Android is pushing out contact tracing software


That only works if you update the software on your phone. I'm some number of IOS behind. I never update until the bugs are worked out. Not going to be a beta tester for Apple. The young might keep it up to date. But you can probably guess the next step - push it out and turn some app on automatically. But again that only works if you A. have phone, B. Turn it on, and C. take it with you. and keep Bluetooth on. I never keep bluetooth on unless using headphones. Its burns the battery. The young might do that as it becomes the center of their life. Older folks? I wouldn't bet on that.

I saw your governor do a press conference for about 10 mins on the weekend, caught part of the Q&A. It was hard to hear the question but the response was about they couldn't get the young to comply. What I heard was more along the lines that the young were going to do what young people do. If true, then you are in trouble. Lots of beaches, not sure what college is open in the summer but lots of college kids? Party time. How does anyone act at 18, 20, 22 in a college setting? Whats on your mind? I think TWO things, relationships and causes.

So watch this. NSFW Language. There was a counter protest at the TR statute that also had counter counter protesters. It looks like a verbal confrontation between a young counter counter protester and a senior citizen counter protester. The statue is not the issue here. What is the issue is the human interaction. Watch and listen to the confrontation. At that age, there is no way I'd behave like that. Doesn't matter I disagree, I'd just walk away because there is no point in confrontation. No one was going to "win" or convince the other side of their cause. Sure looked like he was going to smack that senior citizen. And to imagine screaming and swearing at a Senior Citizen? That would have been inconceivable. Why would he presume he would ever convince her of anything?
  • After :14 watch his shock. Someone stood up to him. Has anyone ever told him "no" before? And the total disrespect for elders?
  • :54 chest to chest with a woman? He apologies and backs off, for a second, AFTER the other young lady pushes him back.
  • 1:42 You don't understand the Constitution, All Men are Created Equal. Really, What line of the Constitution says that?
  • Interesting when confronted he doesn't know what to say. My impression is shock that anyone talked back to him.
  • 1:22 American University. Called out for displaying his college that exists on stolen land. Is it not common for college students to wear the logos of their college? But doesn't know what to say when called out on the land was stolen for it. Are not the cause of the Native Americans just? American University? Was the land stolen? If true, why isn't he protesting about the land where his college stands? They were mostly destroyed from disease from the English.

The archaeological remains [DC] are particularly rich from the final two centuries before the invasion of Europeans. Excavation of granaries, warehouses, and refuse middens in Potomac region village sites demonstrate that indigenous groups like the Piscataway settled in “horticultural base camps” which were occupied year-round.

... there were several village sites within and around the invented boundaries of the District of Columbia. ... a second unnamed village was located between today’s C&O Canal and MacArthur Boulevard in Northwest Washington, D.C. The principal village in Washington was called Nacotchtank, located on the east bank of the Anacostia River in between today’s Bolling Air Force Base and Anacostia Park.

In 1607, life for the indigenous peoples of the Potomac region changed forever when English colonists from the Virginia Company settled along the banks of the James River, naming their new home Jamestown. ... within just one hundred years, European settlers in Maryland and Virginia had eclipsed the once thriving Native American world. For the Nacostines, one of their first contacts with these European interlopers was with Captain John Smith.

... an English raiding party descended upon Nacotchtank, killing eighteen men, burning homes, and plundering food supplies. In 1623, the Nacostines retaliated by killing twenty English traders visiting Nacotchtank and seizing a trader named Henry Fleet as their hostage.19 ... In the 1650s the Nacostines faced an additional threat—tobacco. After a rocky start, the colonies of Maryland and Virginia rapidly expanded after tobacco became a lucrative cash crop.


@//Bruce you were talking about tobacco?

... By 1670, all the land in future Washington, D.C. had been claimed by colonists. In 1685, planter John Addison became the first European to settle on Nacostine territory after purchasing the upper half of the Gisborough estate. In 1688, he built a brick house not far from the remains of Nacotchtank.25 ...

What happened to the Nacotchtank?

Around 1668, greatly depopulated from Eurasian infectious diseases endemic to the English, to which they had no immunity, the Nacotchtank relocated to Anacostine Island(present-day Theodore Roosevelt Island.) Remnants and descendants likely merged with the Piscataway.

I dont like any of this but this is what is happening. Anyone remember being 18 - 22? Maybe FL is in trouble. This video is not about the virus itself but it might explain the problem you're going to, or are having now. I'm not sure I'd listen at 18. I'd just walk away. Its an anecdotal video but maybe shows some mindset?

Do you think he even knew about the Nacotchtank? It sounded like your governor had about given up on the idea of getting the young to comply.

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That's tiny. What's it going to look like when it grows up?
Perfect size for just my wife & I, and a few friends occasionally once things return to normal.
 
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