[GreatSaphenous]

Welcome

Why wouldn't you consider T?

A closely speced T would be $3570 more, but you would get 20 inch wheels.

Hi, I am currently playing with a "T" build right now. Never really considered it as I know it has the same engine as the Base, same horsepower, and a 0.2 s faster acceleration than the Base. I read somewhere that the previous generation S engine had been implanted into the T ... do you know whether this is true or not .... also, if either of you have driven both a Base and a T .. any thoughts on the agility and dynamics of each ...

 

[EdenDPT]

Wow ... thank you so much for all of the replies, everyone! I got called into work today and last I checked there were over 30+ posts on here, I read them all but am just now getting home on my desktop to reply. Doing some research and currently modifying my build ... getting it done before Wednesday!

I decided against Air Suspension. Was reading about how pricey replacements can get, and since I won't really ever have someone in the backseat (no spouse yet, no children yet!) thought that I could skip on it. I am removing Sport Chrono from my Base build as well. Looking into the "T" now ..

Consider this way.

Macan Base : Baby Macan S with 4 cyl engine
Macan T : Baby Macan GTS with 4 cyl engine

Macan T is different than Macan Base although they share exact same engine : T is more toward dynamic driving ; GTS suspension setting, lowered body than base, more aggressive throttle setting than base, hence driving T provides more dynamic and agile, and fun than base model

If you go with T, make sure you negotiate with aesthetic options otherwise you will be end up Macan S price territory.

Compare standard equipment between Base and T, it actually worth to pay extra considering price of extra features the T provides but they should be what you were going to choose anyway if you go with base

 

[GreatSaphenous]

Consider this way.

Macan Base : Baby Macan S with 4 cyl engine
Macan T : Baby Macan GTS with 4 cyl engine

Macan T is different than Macan Base although they share exact same engine : T is more toward dynamic driving ; GTS suspension setting, lowered body than base, more aggressive throttle setting than base, hence driving T provides more dynamic and agile, and fun than base model

If you go with T, make sure you negotiate with aesthetic options otherwise you will be end up Macan S price territory.

Compare standard equipment between Base and T, it actually worth to pay extra considering price of extra features the T provides but they should be what you were going to choose anyway if you go with base

Thank you, this is finally making sense to me now. Am leaning towards the T. Tires look great and it has built in options that I really did want. Am cutting back on some aesthetics (Porsche headcrest, etc.) to maximize what dynamics I can get on the T...I still have a budget I (unfortunately) have to abide by

 

[SnakeEyesB]

Hi, I am currently playing with a "T" build right now. Never really considered it as I know it has the same engine as the Base, same horsepower, and a 0.2 s faster acceleration than the Base.

The T and the base have the exact same engine. The T comes with Sport Chrono, which is what's responsible for the 0.2 second faster acceleration. In other words, the base with SC would have the exact same acceleration.

The value proposition of the T is that it already includes PASM, SC, 20" wheels and some aesthetic things, like the Porsche crest embossed on front headrests. So, if you were going to pay for all that anyway on the base, the T can represent a better value proposition.

Be sure to look into the seats that come with the T, however. The T seats come with Sport-Tex seat centers or black leather. Everything else costs extra.

In other words, in the US, the base with 20" S wheels, PASM, SC, 14 way seats and Porsche crest in the front is $65,650. In the US, the T starts at $64,550 and includes almost everything on this list (plus a few aesthetic things) -- I say "almost everything," as the T includes 8 way deeply bolstered seats, while in the above base configuration you would get 14 way seats with standard bolstering. If you're okay with black leather, if you pick the T, you can get rid of Sport-Tex seat centers and have all black leather seats without an additional charge. So, in theory, you can save a bit of money with the T.

Personally, I cannot stand black seats and do not get all this personalization that includes black interiors, as black interiors are a dime a dozen. Hence, black leather is simply a non-starter for me, but that's a very personal preference. Black interiors also don't show dirt as much, so some people like that. Regardless, the point here is that because of the above options, if you'd be paying for all these options anyway, the T can save a bit of money.

 

[CourtneyNYC]

I was always wondering how it would feel to drive Macan base without no added single option on it.

I've been curious about the same thing and suspect it would be a capital experience. I've seriously considered a "zero option" Macan and bet I'd love it. If I want performance . . well, we have those cars in Palm Beach. For the Hudson Valley I suspect that the standard Macan would provide a thrilling driving experience here in the mountains and windy roads around Woodstock.

I'm just giving MY opinion like everyone else as it was asked.

Precisely.

Threads like this are neither a defend or belittle conversation. I equate them to a bunch of knowing folks, on about their 2nd beer in a pub, simply comparing the relative merits.

If it's a scuffle you need . . . go in the Blind Pig and yell "who owns that piece of crap Low Rider out front?" You'll be treated to a fabulous discussion on preferences.

 

[VAGfan]

Be aware, that if you get a T, and add the Prem + option, you will lose the deeper bolstered Sport Seats that are standard on the T. To get the Sport Seats back, with the Prem + option, you need to add the $380 18-way Sport Seat upgrade, which I think is well worth it.

 

[GreatSaphenous]

The T and the base have the exact same engine. The T comes with Sport Chrono, which is what's responsible for the 0.2 second faster acceleration. In other words, the base with SC would have the exact same acceleration.

The value proposition of the T is that it already includes PASM, SC, 20" wheels and some aesthetic things, like the Porsche crest embossed on front headrests. So, if you were going to pay for all that anyway on the base, the T can represent a better value proposition.

Be sure to look into the seats that come with the T, however. The T seats come with Sport-Tex seat centers or black leather. Everything else costs extra.

In other words, in the US, the base with 20" S wheels, PASM, SC, 14 way seats and Porsche crest in the front is $65,650. In the US, the T starts at $64,550 and includes almost everything on this list (plus a few aesthetic things) -- I say "almost everything," as the T includes 8 way deeply bolstered seats, while in the above base configuration you would get 14 way seats with standard bolstering. If you're okay with black leather, if you pick the T, you can get rid of Sport-Tex seat centers and have all black leather seats without an additional charge. So, in theory, you can save a bit of money with the T.

Personally, I cannot stand black seats and do not get all this personalization that includes black interiors, as black interiors are a dime a dozen. Hence, black leather is simply a non-starter for me, but that's a very personal preference. Black interiors also don't show dirt as much, so some people like that. Regardless, the point here is that because of the above options, if you'd be paying for all these options anyway, the T can save a bit of money.

New build and most likely my final:

Macan T | Porsche Car Configurator

 

[VAGfan]

Looks great !!

 

[gatorfast]

Very restrained on the options! Good for you.

 

[SnakeEyesB]

That's an outstanding build. You did a great job by maximizing the T-specific features, while still making it unique and not putting in a bunch of "fluff."

One word of caution, however, is just to make sure that you'll be okay with that much red. It'll certainly distinguish it (in a good way), particularly in combination with the other things that you've selected, from just about every Macan out there, but just make sure that the interior won't be too loud for you.

 

[vanmacandriver]

New build and most likely my final:

Macan T | Porsche Car Configurator

I would seriously reconsider Surround-view and LCA on a vehicle like this.

 

[Mike1117]

I would definitely recommend adding the Surround View. Worth every cent, in my humble opinion.

Disagree - Never felt I needed it in the psat 3 years and didn't order it on my 23 S.

 

[sn001]

New build and most likely my final:

Macan T | Porsche Car Configurator

Wow nice one

I also ordered T last month and waiting allocation this is the final config I settled on: PPPVWZ45

 

[Softsand]

Wow nice one

I also ordered T last month and waiting allocation this is the final config I settled on: PPPVWZ45

Are you sure you want the rear apron painted ? You’ll already have the lower bumper and sills black and that won’t really match IMHO. Zero added value on resale.

If you deselected that along with the clear LED taillights and courtesy lights (alternative buy cheap from ebay), you could pay for air suspension. Then you’d have one less blank on the console, get auto levelling and the ability to lower or raise the car. Better value…

 

[SnakeEyesB]

If you deselected that along with the clear LED taillights and courtesy lights (alternative buy cheap from ebay), you could pay for air suspension. Then you’d have one less blank on the console, get auto levelling and the ability to lower or raise the car. Better value…

As I mentioned earlier, regardless of the manufacturer or the model, air suspension is by far the most consequential option. Because it is a wear item, and one that can cost an obscene amount of money to fix (and fixing it isn't even considered a breakdown, as it is expected to wear out), its presence on a vehicle alone can account for very significant depreciation, cause knowledgeable buyers to stay away from the vehicle altogether, etc...

The other options are in a completely different category. If you pay $1,200 or so for one and don't end up enjoying it, it's wasted money, but does not otherwise affect anything and won't cause any breakdowns or additional repair costs. With air suspensions, it's not a ton of money up front, but its presence results in pretty obscene repair costs down the road and air suspensions cannot just be "turned off."

It is relatively inexpensive up front and can be a nice option, so people get it and only then realize the consequences.

Here's a megathread on it, which lists lots of pros and cons: Discussion on the Macan Suspensions

 

[mephisto_4711]

For what it's worth.....this would be my T build, it's 1k more but I could do without the under door projector and heated rear seats to make it equal.

Macan T | Porsche Car Configurator

 

[Sweetness34]

Disagree - Never felt I needed it in the psat 3 years and didn't order it on my 23 S.

I never had it or felt I “needed” it on past vehicles but now that I have it, I use it all the time and will definitely get it again on future vehicles.

 

[rasetsu]

I would seriously reconsider Surround-view and LCA on a vehicle like this.

I agree. Especially about surround view. Yeah, never had it in other cars before because it wasn't available on them. But now I will select every time when available. It makes it so much easier to maneuver through fast food drive throughs without worrying about curbing wheels, parking into my narrow garage, and quickly reversing into parking spaces so I can safely and quickly pull forward when I leave.

 

[SnakeEyesB]

Both my wife and I have surround view and really like it. The Macan includes parking sensors at no additional charge, so it warns you if you get too close to something. For a lot of people, it'll be enough.

The advantage of surround view is that in a lot of parking situations, just having the car warn you that you're too close to something just won't be particularly helpful, as being in the red is unavoidable, and you need to get as close as you can to something without bumping into it. Likewise, when you're parking your Macan, there may not be other cars around (so, the parking sensors won't warn you of anything), but you'd like to perfectly center it in a parking spot, so that when the parking lot fills up, you'll minimize the likelihood of door dings.

Having said that, $1,200 for surround view is pretty pricey, and the Macan is fairly small, so while I paid for it myself and use it all the time, it was the one option on which I could've gone either way.

As for the LCA, it's something that I actually didn't want. You can't just rely on it, as the sensor can get dirty/malfunction and fail to warn you. Yet, it is something else that you have to also pay attention to, so while it is intended to serve as a backup, it can also distract you. It is also easy to get used to having it, and then get in an accident when you happen to be in a car (a rental, a service loaner, etc...) without it.

Since we are suggesting other options, if you've got another person who may be driving your Macan from time to time (especially if this person is substantially taller or shorter than you are), consider paying $380 for the driver memory package, which is otherwise not included with the standard T seats.

 

[vanmacandriver]

Both my wife and I have surround view and really like it. The Macan includes parking sensors at no additional charge, so it warns you if you get too close to something. For a lot of people, it'll be enough.

The advantage of surround view is that in a lot of parking situations, just having the car warn you that you're too close to something just won't be particularly helpful, as being in the red is unavoidable, and you need to get as close as you can to something without bumping into it. Likewise, when you're parking your Macan, there may not be other cars around (so, the parking sensors won't warn you of anything), but you'd like to perfectly center it in a parking spot, so that when the parking lot fills up, you'll minimize the likelihood of door dings.

Having said that, $1,200 for surround view is pretty pricey, and the Macan is fairly small, so while I paid for it myself and use it all the time, it was the one option on which I could've gone either way.

As for the LCA, it's something that I actually didn't want. You can't just rely on it, as the sensor can get dirty/malfunction and fail to warn you. Yet, it is something that you have to also pay attention to, so while it is intended to serve as a backup, it can also distract you. It is also easy to get used to having it, and then get in an accident when you happen to be in a car (a rental, a service loaner, etc...) without it.

Since we are suggesting other options, if you've got another person who may be driving your Macan from time to time (especially if this person is substantially taller or shorter than you are), consider paying $380 for the driver memory package, which is otherwise not included with the standard T seats.

I think it greatly depends on where you live. In Vancouver, they keep making parking stalls smaller, and it's common to find yourself squeezing between a concrete column and an F-150. Also, if you or ahem... significant other does street parking, surround-view can pay for itself by preventing curving. LCA is also a must-have if you drive in bad weather.