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3 year 10K/year Services Accounting

I just did the accounting of maintenance and surprised that it is very reasonable over a 3 year 10K/year use, at least here in Indianapolis.

Service | Date | Miles | Cost
00K Service | July 31, 2015 | 9 miles | Delivery
10K Service (O/F) - early by choice | March 7, 2016 | 6,581 miles | $414.76
20K Service (O/F, Particle Filter) | March 13, 2017 | 17,277 miles |$648.17
30K Service (O/F, BreakF, No SPARKP) | April 17, 2018 27,709 miles | $494.62
30K Service (SPARK Plugs because Turbo) | June 6, 2018 | 28,536 miles | $406.75



Compare this to these add-ons:

$5,350 OEM 20 inch Winter+Wheel+Center Cap set
$1,700 Bi-Xenons in Black with Phillips Bulb Upgrade and DYI install (otherwise would be easily another $300)
$2,500 Damage Repair: Highway Flying Object Hood Dent ($800), Rear Lower Bumper someone ran into and Light Unit ($1,000), 4 x Wheel Curb Damage Repair ($700)
$900 2 x Rear Tires ($600) + Mount/Balance ($300) due to nail, otherwise still would have been good
$400 Repaint Front and Rear skid plates from body color to gloss black (looks only)


Lesson 1: Spend more time on the forum, configurator, dealer to order exactly what you want or pay more later (Bi-Xenon in Black mod above)

Lesson 2: Maintenance is the least of the costs of ownership


Lesson 3: Budget for Add-ons if not available from factory (Winter Set)


Lesson 4: Be prepared to pay for hazard damages
 

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I just did the accounting of maintenance and surprised that it is very reasonable over a 3 year 10K/year use, at least here in Indianapolis.

Service | Date | Miles | Cost
00K Service | July 31, 2015 | 9 miles | Delivery
10K Service (O/F) - early by choice | March 7, 2016 | 6,581 miles | $414.76
20K Service (O/F, Particle Filter) | March 13, 2017 | 17,277 miles |$648.17
30K Service (O/F, BreakF, No SPARKP) | April 17, 2018 27,709 miles | $494.62
30K Service (SPARK Plugs because Turbo) | June 6, 2018 | 28,536 miles | $406.75
Reasonable? The 10k service is $415 for an oil change. The 20k service is $648 for an oil change and a $17 filter that takes about 2 minutes to replace.
 

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Yeah, you need to look at what they do for the quoted cost. Cheap/reasonable/expensive is all relative.

I paid for 3 oil changes at the dealer so far for $160, $200 and $360. First 2 times I got coupons and the 3rd time I paid in full.

Next oil change will be out of warranty and I will do it myself for around $100. I did the cabin air filter change for $25 and the brake fluid change for $20, all by myself.
 

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@lippy, I believe it is since they do a multi-point inspection that takes a few hours depending on mileage (20K is more than 10K) at $150/hour plus parts such as oil/filter that are more in quantity and cost than a regular car. Then the service is only once a year or at 10K intervals with some exceptions for break fluid after 2 years, spark plugs after 3 years, etc. My take: it is reasonable for a $77K base price vehicle serviced at an authorized dealer with trained technicians.
 

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My dealer always do multi-point inspection for free. They even have a coupon out for it.

They do that to find something to fix and that’s how they make money.
 

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Macan True Maintenance Costs

I keep reading posts on FB and forums on how expensive Porsche service is. I am amazed at how secretive it is. For example, I cannot even find out the caliper torque to use if I wanted to change my own brakes. It is sort of like airfare pricing where the customer really does not understand. My local P-club goes to local independent shops but I fear loss of warranty (although I know, I know, legally the 'stealership' cannot prevent you--but good luck when an issue happens.)

Calling around the Chicago and Milwaukee areas, the maintenance pricing varies dramatically and changes often.

One Wisconsin graciously dealer provided me with a pricing list (Illinois prices are all higher. Supposedly only labour costs vary and not parts). Although I attached photos but it is still faint.
Yearly Service 10k/30k/50k/70 $469 plus additional service below!
Minor Service 20k / 60k $699 plus additional service below!
Major Service 40k / 80k $998 plus additional service below!

Of course you need to add the following Additional Maintenance, when applicable:
Change Brake Fluid Every 2 Years = $265
Air filters Every 4 Years or 40k =$165
PDK Filter, PDK Sealing Rink, PDK Trans Oil Every 4 years or 40k = $373
Replace spark plugs Turbo or S Every 3 years or 30K = $548
NN ? [I have no idea what this is] Every 10K or 1 yr $320
Wiper blades front Yearly $56
Wiper blades rear yearly $35
Coolant Service Every 3 years, or 30k $348
Serpentine Belt Every 50k $228

So that means if you follow their schedule (excluding NN? of $320):
20k Service = $699+$265+$56+35=$816
30K Service = $469+$548+$56+$35+$348=$1,456
40K Service = $998+$265+$156+$373+$56+$35=$1883
This of course ignores tire replacement!!!
 

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I keep reading posts on FB and forums on how expensive Porsche service is.
I've merged this with one of the many, many previous discussions on this forum. There is a MUCH information here on costs. Just search for it.

I am amazed at how secretive it is. For example, I cannot even find out the caliper torque to use if I wanted to change my own brakes.
Did you search here? Try that. Start with

https://www.macanforum.com/forum/engine-technical-discussion/141137-ultimate-brake-replacement-thread.html
https://www.macanforum.com/forum/wheels-tires-suspension/124682-diy-brake-bleed.html

Want Tech info? Here https://techinfo2.porsche.com/PAGInfosystem/VFModuleManager?Type=GVOLogin&lk=ELSE

My local P-club goes to local independent shops but I fear loss of warranty (although I know, I know, legally the 'stealership' cannot prevent you--but good luck when an issue happens.)
You based this on how much experience in dealing with PCNA? PCNA pays for warranty service, not dealerships. How many time has PCNA denied you warranty service because you went to an independent shop? How many times have members of your local PCA been denied warranty service because they did their own work or went to an independent?

Calling around the Chicago and Milwaukee areas, the maintenance pricing varies dramatically and changes often.
Why wouldn't it? Each dealer is probably owned by different companies. Each might have different rents, mortgages, and pay different amounts for labor. Why would you expect them to be the same, especially based on location? These sound cheap. Try this https://www.macanforum.com/forum/engine-technical-discussion/170437-40-000-service-charge.html

This of course ignores tire replacement!!!
Here's the scary part. Everything you mention is going to get worse over time. Those $2,000 services, new tires, new rotors, new wiper blades, and etc., are all part of Total Cost of Ownership. And a few years from now when that new $70,000 car is worth $10,000, those costs not only never go away, but will be higher because more parts will break and because of inflation. It makes you wonder why buy these cars? ;)
 

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One of the advantages of purchasing the Porsche pre-paid maintenance plan is to guard against inflation. For example today the 40,000 mile service may be let’s say $1,600, but in 3-4 years time it may go up to say $1,700 or $1,800. So in that sense one could argue that even if it is cost neutral today to pay upfront vs as you go, you’d potentially save on inflation.
 

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Consider what you could have done with the $ you spent (wasted?) on pre-paid maintenance.
 

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Hello,

What is the typical maintenance schedule on the S? Is it every 10K miles/1 year? What do Porsche service depts in the US typically charge for this service?

Thanks!
Had my 2017 S in for 20K service at Porsche dealer in West Palm Beach. The damages were a little over $1200. 10K oil change was done at an independent shop at a much lower cost. The 20K service was all routine, no special work, ouch!
 

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For $1200, what did the dealer do? A plastic surgery?

20k miles service includes oil change, brake fluid flush and a bunch of checks.
 

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Hello,

What is the typical maintenance schedule on the S? Is it every 10K miles/1 year? What do Porsche service depts in the US typically charge for this service?

Thanks!
Before I bought my car, I had the Service Department provide me with the maintenance schedule and costs. 10K = $375. 20K = $875. 30K = $925. 40K = $1525. Please note this is the cost for the 4 cylinder engine. I was told that the cost for the 6 cylinder engine was much higher.
 

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Had my 2017 S in for 20K service at Porsche dealer in West Palm Beach. The damages were a little over $1200. 10K oil change was done at an independent shop at a much lower cost. The 20K service was all routine, no special work, ouch!
Hi Rob, I am also in WPB, could you share the name of the Independent shop that you used? - BTW, did they give you a breakdown for what they did in the $1,200 service? I would like to see what imaginative things they came up with over and above an oil change, filter, top up fluids and visual inspection.

 

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About to get to 30k miles on my 2017 Macan (Base model). The dealer where I usually service the car quoted me $980 plus tax to replace the spark plugs. To those of you who have had spark plugs replaced, does this sound right? Thanks......
 

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Totally outrageous! Which dealer is this? Are you sure they are not quoting a 30k maintainence which involves other things in addition to the plugs?

if not, strongly suggest using a competent independent garage as changing the spark plugs on a Macan is relatively easy and requires no special knowledge.
 

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About to get to 30k miles on my 2017 Macan (Base model). The dealer where I usually service the car quoted me $980 plus tax to replace the spark plugs. To those of you who have had spark plugs replaced, does this sound right? Thanks......
Call them back and tell them they misunderstood…You were looking for the price to change the plugs on ONE base Macan, not THREE base Macans!
 

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Totally outrageous! Which dealer is this? Are you sure they are not quoting a 30k maintainence which involves other things in addition to the plugs?

if not, strongly suggest using a competent independent garage as changing the spark plugs on a Macan is relatively easy and requires no special knowledge.
I should probably call back. The guy I spoke to told me the plugs were $40 each and the labor was 4 HOURS!
 

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Just had my four year/40k mile service completed at my local Porsche dealership service department on my '16 Macan S. $1,030.00. This service includes the PDK service so that alone adds quite a bit to the total price of the service. The only things I had done myself previously were wipers and cabin air filter so that was not done during the service. Very happy with the outcome.
 
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