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I'm considering the Thermally and Noise Insulated Glass option for a 2019 Macan. I've read numerous threads about issues related to this -- e.g., impact on cell reception and toll transponders, as well as (of course) car interior temperature and noise levels. In fact, I've already shaped my own conclusions on those issues, so there's no need to repeat that info here. (Thanks!)

I've found a bit less information, though, on appearance. My specific question is... What is the cosmetic impact of choosing the Thermally and Noise Insulated Glass option, versus the standard window tinting? (I.e. how much more are the windows darkened (relative to not choosing the option)? Plus which windows are impacted?)

Here's what I think the answer might be. Please let me know if I'm misguided. (I'm new here, and this is my first post!):

  • Panoramic roof - No impact. It's not modified by the package in any way at all.
  • Front windshield, front side windows - Little or no cosmetic impact. Not much visible tinting -- just like in the standard build.
  • Rear windshield - Little cosmetic impact. Windows definitely appear tinted, but remain similar to the way they'd appear in a "standard" build. (Some people report a purple tint or haze, but other don't see that or only see it from specific angles.)

(BTW, this question would be much easier to answer if a local dealer had a Macan on their lot with the option intact. But, alas, that seems difficult to find. In fact, I'm finding it difficult to find visible, touchable examples of many things I'd like to order! Maybe that's just a Porsche thing... and a topic for a different thread?)
 

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I have this option on our 2018 S, and I don't believe there is any cosmetic difference, vs. Macans without it. Or maybe I just never noticed it, when going to the dealership occasionally and looking at other Macans.

If you're in the Albany, NY, area, you're welcome to take a look. (You might want to add something about your location to your signature block. Oh, and welcome to the forum!)

PS: My wife and I ordered our S without a sun roof, so no comment there. And I can't help myself here -- go ahead and yell at me -- I don't think there's any effect vis-a-vis a toll transponder (and the cell phone is too hard to tell, because we hardly ever drive our backup car anymore).

PPS: The glass is a fairly rare and certainly not cheap option, and has nothing to do with performance, and doesn't make the car look any better. Given all that, it doesn't surprise me that there are few, if any, lot cars with that option. Not a really a big selling point for most people, so the dealers would be stuck with having to charge a customer a grand more for that car. Similarly, we ordered our car with full saddle brown leather interior -- which was three+ grand, but at least it makes the inside look a lot better (IMHO) -- and I don't think you'll find many lot cars with a full-leather option, either.
 

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I'm considering the Thermally and Noise Insulated Glass option for a 2019 Macan. I've read numerous threads about issues related to this -- e.g., impact on cell reception and toll transponders, as well as (of course) car interior temperature and noise levels. In fact, I've already shaped my own conclusions on those issues, so there's no need to repeat that info here. (Thanks!)

I've found a bit less information, though, on appearance. My specific question is... What is the cosmetic impact of choosing the Thermally and Noise Insulated Glass option, versus the standard window tinting? (I.e. how much more are the windows darkened (relative to not choosing the option)? Plus which windows are impacted?)

Here's what I think the answer might be. Please let me know if I'm misguided. (I'm new here, and this is my first post!):

  • Panoramic roof - No impact. It's not modified by the package in any way at all.
  • Front windshield, front side windows - Little or no cosmetic impact. Not much visible tinting -- just like in the standard build.
  • Rear windshield - Little cosmetic impact. Windows definitely appear tinted, but remain similar to the way they'd appear in a "standard" build. (Some people report a purple tint or haze, but other don't see that or only see it from specific angles.)

(BTW, this question would be much easier to answer if a local dealer had a Macan on their lot with the option intact. But, alas, that seems difficult to find. In fact, I'm finding it difficult to find visible, touchable examples of many things I'd like to order! Maybe that's just a Porsche thing... and a topic for a different thread?)
I have them, you wouldn't notice any difference side by side with a Macan that doesn't have them. I like them and have not noticed any downside and my original 2015 Macan did not have them so I have had both. Definitely quieter but doesn't ruin the PSE if you have that. In Phoenix they also seem to be cooler but not a measurable difference IMO
 
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I had a 2018 GTS without, and now a 2019 S with. I only had the GTS from 2/28 to 5/28 in CT, so I cant’t really comment on the temperature protection. However, aside from a bit of “fogginess” when looking through the rear and back side windows, I have noticed literally no difference in appearance, sound, ezpass, cell reception, or heat. As it turns out, I still need to get the front side windows tinted. If I had to do it over again, that $1K would be better spent on an equally uncommon option, like the cargo management system or red instrument dials to match my seats!
 
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Hi,
I have that option on my GTS. Minimal difference in appearance but noticeable difference in noise/heat transmission. It may be thicker glass but I believe it's more of a reflective costing/film. I use a toll transponder, mounted on glass by the mirror w/o any issues. A bit pricey (but aren't all Porsche options) but worth the cost.
 
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You know this yet another feature Porsche give a cryptic description of.

"Optional: thermally and noise insulated laminated glass for all round more efficient reflection of infrared radiation. Enjoy an even more pleasant climate and peace and quiet in the passenger compartment."

Like how much noise insulation exactly ?

An actual figure in dB reduction would be most useful !
 

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I am reading these comments with interest as I have wondered the same things. I have been following threads on this subject in multiple forums.
Can any of you answer about:
- any impact on radar detector function that you have noticed? (FYI- I use the Valentine One, but don't want the content to degrade into which detector, bumper mounting, laser blocking, etc)
- was it a "must" that you had to mount any of the accessories in the designated spot by the mirror or lose sensitivity?
Thank you for your experience,
ri
 

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Any radar detector mounted to the Macan "Thermal" windshield must be mounted to the dotted area to either side of the rear view mirror to work properly. Size and shape of the detector need to accommodate this placement.
 

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I can confirm the radar detector impact. I moved my detector from a mirror mount to just below the headliner behind the visor and it works. you need to get a compact mount to make it work. My uniden R3 and R7 work. T?he Escort 360c is still in testing. might hang too low
 

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I had a 2018 GTS without, and now a 2019 S with. I only had the GTS from 2/28 to 5/28 in CT, so I cant’t really comment on the temperature protection. However, aside from a bit of “fogginess” when looking through the rear and back side windows, I have noticed literally no difference in appearance, sound, ezpass, cell reception, or heat. As it turns out, I still need to get the front side windows tinted. If I had to do it over again, that $1K would be better spent on an equally uncommon option, like the cargo management system or red instrument dials to match my seats!
I am currently thinking about tinting my front windows as well, but I am not sure if they can without removing the insulation. Have you tinted your front windows? I thought the thermally & noise insulation comes from a film on the inside of the windows. Can they put the window tint film on top of it? or do they have to remove the original film that provides the thermal and noise insulation?
 

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.....I thought the thermally & noise insulation comes from a film on the inside of the windows. Can they put the window tint film on top of it?
The thermal insulated glass is laminated, and the protective film is sandwiched in-between two layers of glass. Thus, you can tint your front windows in the same way as the non-insulated glass.
 
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The thermal insulated glass is laminated, and the protective film is sandwiched in-between two layers of glass. Thus, you can tint your front windows in the same way as the non-insulated glass.
Thanks for the quick reply! This is just what I wanted to hear. Thanks for making my day
 

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I like reading this thread over again as it has good information on making a choice on this option so here are a few insights from someone who does not have it on a Macan but have it on the Cayenne.

  • I cannot comment on the radar detector or transponder for pay roads as I do not have them
  • I do not notice any cell reception difference but I have a sunroof on the Cayenne that has this option and I assume that cell signal comes through that way just fine since sunroof is not affected but this option
  • I can tell that driving our Macan (before tinting) , new loaner Macans, or loaner Cayenne without this option I feel totally blinded by how much light comes through front and side windows. Therefore, on the Macan we tinted front windshield believe it is 80% designed for that application in addition to the side windows to match the rears and immediately it felt comfortable.
  • I decided to add this option to the Cayenne for the purposes of call it "enhanced" reduction road noise and heat rejection because I believe that thicker double pane glass is better than standard single pane glass regardless of the dealer telling me that they do not see or can tell the difference and see it pretty much a waste.
  • I can tell that the glass is reducing noise and heat in the Cayenne but I feel that regular tint would just be as comparable. I did tint the side windows to match the rears and yes that insulation film does give off a purple hue but not overly so or noticeable at all to mess up the matched look of all side windows.
  • I can tell that rear windows do look a bit foggy but in a soft kind of way which I actually like by breaking up direct sunlight.
  • I can tell that when looking at an angle through the windshield (looking right under bright conditions) I can see that the view is a bit distorted because of the film in the middle of the glass. That catches me once on a while but the benefit that I get is that the light coming through the windshield is again best way to say it softened up so it feels more comfortable so as a result I did not have to tint the windshield.
  • The other benefit is that the glass is thicker and feels more solid when you roll up/down windows but not like a big deal.

Bottom line, I would order it again given pros/cons for my needs.
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Still waiting for someone who chose the Thermally and Noise Insulated Glass option complain about how it detracts from the loud/sporty sound of the Macan upon startup. :rolleyes:
 
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