2022 Macan Gran Turismo Sport
Glad to see climate control includes physical buttons (don't like the Taycan's set-up). Still seeing the double headlight solution, which is worrying. Hopefully as fake as the rear exhausts. With all the delays in the car market curious when Porsche will announce this new EV. Thanks for the link.
I've had a really bad experience buying a first model year of a vehicle and will never do that again. I just ordered a 2023 Macan S and feel great about it because it's the end of the line - they've [presumably] ironed out all the bugs and that the output more refined.Hello,
I need expects to guide me whether to buy the Macan now or not? I'm aware about the Macan EV and the facelift the Macan got for 2022.
1. Is it wise to buy a car that it will be discontinued (ICE/Gas Model)?
2. When the Macan EV lunches next year, will the gas model be updated to match the EV?
Completely agree. Go to any Taycan forum > build and especially electronic issues (UI, battery, etc.). The 2022's seem to be fairing better but unless you have a ton of time and patience I'd avoid the 1st gen Macan EV. Def. interested though, maybe by the time the base or GTS version releases in 2024-5.I've had a really bad experience buying a first model year of a vehicle and will never do that again. I just ordered a 2023 Macan S and feel great about it because it's the end of the line - they've [presumably] ironed out all the bugs and that the output more refined.
In regards to EV, I was told by my dealer that 2023 may be the last year for this platform. He went on to say that they will continue to build ICE versions of the upcoming Macan, but that it won't be available in all markets. I'm not sure what criteria they use to determine which markets are viable or not.
The future Macan EV, which will likely receive a different name, will be using VW Group's Premium Platform Electric (PPE) platform. It will share the 800 volt architecture and 270kw fast charging capability with other Porsche and Audi models. Due to the Macan being taller, it is expected to have more room for batteries and therefore possibly have greater range than the Taycan.Has anyone read what chassis they are basing the Macan EV on?
The rare metals in car batteries will all be recycled because they're too valuable not to be, and a large battery-recycling industry is ramping up now for that. While these metals can be recycled, fossil fuels cannot be recycled (they are burned and gone forever). The federal tax credits that you speak of have now gone close to zero, thanks to the recently passed (Aug. 2022) bill that severely limits credits to cars made in North America (and, starting in 2024, batteries with mined metals made largely or, eventually entirely, in the US or its free-trade-partner countries). So very few cars are now eligible for the federal tax credit, and it'll be years before very many are eligible again.The USA is causing generational theft from electric vehicles, by issuing deficit spending $7K tax credits, increasing the National Debt, passed onto our unborn great grandchildren.
Absolutely no to any electric vehicle for my usage.
Count me in the group who loves our planet's environment too much to contribute to the ecological destruction caused by electric vehicle production and operation. The massive amounts of lithium, manganese and cobalt mining causes a permanent swath of devastation.
Unlike the lead-acid batteries that are virtually 100% recycled after their 7-10 year life, the Lithium Ion batteries that have a $10K to $50K+ replacement cost are either shredded and dumped to leach their poisons into landfills or shipped out of the USA for incineration to exhaust the poison into the atmosphere.
The USA is causing generational theft from electric vehicles, by issuing deficit spending $7K tax credits, increasing the National Debt, passed onto our unborn great grandchildren.
Yes, that imaginary factory is being staffed by unicorns.The rare metals in car batteries will all be recycled because they're too valuable not to be, and a large battery-recycling industry is ramping up now for that.
Love the acronym for Lithium Ion Batterys = LIBS 😁Realistically, "No conclusive statement can be made regarding whether LIBs or gasoline outcompetes the other from an environmental standpoint. Their impacts fall on varying ecosystems and even areas that overlap don’t have corresponding data. The one certain fact is that both energy sources provide tremendous assistance in our modern lives, but are also responsible for environmental harm that we are either unaware of or choose to sweep under the rug." [A Comparison of the Environmental Consequences in the Production and Disposal Phases of Lithium-Ion Batteries and Gasoline - NHSJS]
@cometguy . . .I enjoyed reading that very thoughtful post and it's stirred my curiously to continue learning. There seem to be mostly "from the hip" opinions that dominant any discussion. I confess to likely skewing my thoughts and opinions based, in part, on my desire to defend years of muscle car and performance car ownership and my thrust for the sound of a 1967 Sri-Power G.T.O. 389.there's no question that the driver is driving a much cleaner vehicle in terms of emissions (none) in a BEV vs. an ICEV (lots).
My initial thought is to agree with that . . . however it seems much like buying a personal jet with high time engines. I mean, one of the basic considerations for the purchase of a previously owned just is TBO. Those who have paid for hot sections will know what I mean.When that reality has more widespread understanding, it won't be possible to unload an 8-10 year EV, that requires tens of thousands of dollars for a new battery pack.
The feed to the charger doesn't have to come from your main panel. You have options. For example, you can easily add an external sub-panel to feed your EV charger using an meter collar like this:To the OP, I:m not. My garage is tight enough as it is. And now I need to install a 220 line? If I had to do that, I:d be looking at a new riser. And there:s no room on that wall right now.