[Rolltide86]

How did you get the 69K without a pan roof or nav? Whats your configuration?

Pano Roof comes with Premium Package

 

[keninblaine]

Pano Roof comes with Premium Package

Nope. It comes with Premium Package Plus.

 

[MrMB]

@jrjunior31 I suggest you compare changing to Premium Plus option pack and see how that looks. You have a lot of overlap.

Agreed. When I priced mine out ala carte, I found that adding Premium Plus actually reduced the price and added some options that I hadn't previously included (Porsche Entry and Drive).

 

[jrjunior31]

SA looked over the Spec and said if I wanted to save money I should delete 3 zone and painted blades since I won't see either. I'm keeping 3 zone but I need to take a look in person at a JBM Macan to see if it truly hides the standard blades.

 

[yrralis1]

Eesh .. at 68K with the absent amenities you really are heading into Turbo territory (where much more comes standard ) .

This has been my gripe about the Macan S . One either has to buy it stripped with minimal gear ( and get nothing) or spend a fortune only to lose it at trade in .
I can not see spending 68K on a car , plus tax, tag etc and not having it perfect

To really pull out the stops with worry your Macan S would price in the low to mid 70's . The mid 80's gets the Turbo .

68K can buy a lot of cars . If that was my spending limit I would walk from the Macan .

 

[jrjunior31]

Havent really looked into too many other vehicles, maybe you have a point. I have always wanted a Porsche though and I have a 3 year old so this or the Cayenne is a good size. I have really enjoyed my Q5 3.2 it is a perfect combo of sport/utility/luxury at a reasonable price. But I've owned it 4 years and I usually start getting ancy around then. The Macan feels really tight after being in a Q but it is of course much more of a sports car. What other vehicles would you look at?

 

[porschechiq]

Eesh .. at 68K with the absent amenities you really are heading into Turbo territory (where much more comes standard ) .

This has been my gripe about the Macan S . One either has to buy it stripped with minimal gear ( and get nothing) or spend a fortune only to lose it at trade in .
I can not see spending 68K on a car , plus tax, tag etc and not having it perfect

To really pull out the stops with worry your Macan S would price in the low to mid 70's . The mid 80's gets the Turbo .

68K can buy a lot of cars . If that was my spending limit I would walk from the Macan .

This is what my SA said as well; ie. If your build is getting close to that Turbo territory with the upgrades that come standard on the Turbo, you may be better off with the Turbo. Unfortunately my S build didnt have much of what came standard on the Turbo, and was about 20k less comparably equipped.

 

[K-A]

$68K for a Macan S could get a you a lot of great stuff and still provide a drive and environment that you won't find from many other cars. And a Turbo still isn't chump change more than it, and doesn't provide THAT much more in standard form (I'd imagine a $68K Macan S could have more features catered to your likings than a standard Turbo). And lots of people would still think a Macan S at $68K could be a bargain over an $80K Turbo, sans 60HP. The Turbo and S aren't completely different cars, even in performance, we're not talking a 528i VS a 550i. Most reviews I've read have said that a loaded Macan S is recommended over a standard Turbo, as the performance isn't noticeable enough in their opinions (after tracking both) to justify the cost difference.

Saying an S needs to be "stripped or loaded" is really nonsense. The average Macan S price is mid $60's, so $68K is not insane by any means, and a Turbo will probably depreciate worse than an S anyway (higher cost of entry). Yes, an $80K Turbo will depreciate a lot less than an $80K Macan S (though an $80K Macan S will have tons more "goodies"), but a $68K Macan S won't necessarily get creamed compared to an $80K Turbo. I think the market and demand for the Macan S is strong enough to where not only will resale remain strong, but careful sellers who pick *the right* options, can get some back for them.

My issue with that build is that it seems to get a whole lot of "not too much" for $68K. I.e, if I was spending $68K on a Macan S, I'd want at least one or two big packages, and like you, I don't want the sunroof (so Premium + is out). I'd want it to either look second to none (Sport Design package and you can even squeeze in other aesthetics) and/or drive second to none, which you having AS/PASM takes most care of.

 

[NJ-Macan]

I have to disagree. Drive the S and then drive the Turbo. There is a difference and you can easily feel if.


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[yrralis1]

$68K for a Macan S could get a you a lot of great stuff and still provide a drive and environment that you won't find from many other cars. And a Turbo still isn't chump change more than it, and doesn't provide THAT much more in standard form (I'd imagine a $68K Macan S could have more features catered to your likings than a standard Turbo). And lots of people would still think a Macan S at $68K could be a bargain over an $80K Turbo, sans 60HP. The Turbo and S aren't completely different cars, even in performance, we're not talking a 528i VS a 550i. Most reviews I've read have said that a loaded Macan S is recommended over a standard Turbo, as the performance isn't noticeable enough in their opinions (after tracking both) to justify the cost difference.

Saying an S needs to be "stripped or loaded" is really nonsense. The average Macan S price is mid $60's, so $68K is not insane by any means, and a Turbo will probably depreciate worse than an S anyway (higher cost of entry). Yes, an $80K Turbo will depreciate a lot less than an $80K Macan S (though an $80K Macan S will have tons more "goodies"), but a $68K Macan S won't necessarily get creamed compared to an $80K Turbo. I think the market and demand for the Macan S is strong enough to where not only will resale remain strong, but careful sellers who pick *the right* options, can get some back for them.

My issue with that build is that it seems to get a whole lot of "not too much" for $68K. I.e, if I was spending $68K on a Macan S, I'd want at least one or two big packages, and like you, I don't want the sunroof (so Premium + is out). I'd want it to either look second to none (Sport Design package and you can even squeeze in other aesthetics) and/or drive second to none, which you having AS/PASM takes most care of.

If one looks at any other Porsche model and looks at the pricing of the "S" compared to the "Turbo" theres huge price gap . Pinning down to 10-15K is minimal (in my opinion) at these price levels to gain 60 Hp and 67lbs of torque . That is a huge gain . Plus Bose. leather, infotainment , painted blades . choice of 14 vs 18 seats are standard .

And BTW if one loads up a Turbo to excess it's the same result of a large depreciation but the difference is that so much comers standard that the option list (on a Turbo) is less ridiculous . I am surprised a Macan S does not have a fart absorber for 800 bucks . It's that ridiculous !!

I realize that someone getting a no frills Macan (at 62K or so) is a huge step up from a lot of cars but the guy who wants the real deal set of options finds out fast that it costs a lot . In my opinion .. too much .

Maybe he ought to start calling dealerships and asking for a 71K Macan for 68K and see if there are any takers .

 

[K-A]

I have to disagree. Drive the S and then drive the Turbo. There is a difference and you can easily feel if.


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Of course there's a difference, but whether it's worth $10, $20, even $5K extra is another story. Some people say that the differences are a deal maker, and I've read quite a few reviews who after driving both on the track, stated that the differences aren't noticeable enough for them to personally feel the cost difference is justified.

I'd say that a bare bones Macan Turbo would be a better comparison to someone looking to spend $68K on an S, but I can't remember what "necessities" a $73K Turbo would be giving up. You'd make that difference back and maybe and then some, in resale, no doubt (still considers what the S will be missing).

But a Turbo with probably the "right" things, including AS for someone who needs the lower ride height and/or wants the added refinement, 20's, etc., would probably push $80K even being moderate. So then it becomes less cut and dry in terms of which to go for. It's still impossible to find any car on the market that can provide the various dynamics a Macan S can, even at $68K, if you seek exactly the merits it offers so well.

If you want to get a Macan S without pulling punches, looking and driving better than most other Macan S's, on the road, getting overpriced features like Nav, getting the multi-way seats, etc., but keeping it within a decent budget, you can do it for $65-66K. Still a huge bargain for what you get, especially if you forget what the obvious joke of a base-MSRP is (i.e it's clear that a Macan in the basic form it should really come in, with fundamental features would cost a good $60K, at least), IMO. Other Porsche's are way more insane. A base 911 starts at $70-$80whateverK, but will rocket past $100K with necessities. A Carrera S can go above $130K without much work, some have tested $150K versions.

 

[K-A]

If one looks at any other Porsche model and looks at the pricing of the "S" compared to the "Turbo" theres huge price gap . Pinning down to 10-15K is minimal (in my opinion) at these price levels to gain 60 Hp and 67lbs of torque . That is a huge gain . Plus Bose. leather, infotainment , painted blades . choice of 14 vs 18 seats are standard .

And BTW if one loads up a Turbo to excess it's the same result of a large depreciation but the difference is that so much comers standard that the option list (on a Turbo) is less ridiculous . I am surprised a Macan S does not have a fart absorber for 800 bucks . It's that ridiculous !!

I realize that someone getting a no frills Macan (at 62K or so) is a huge step up from a lot of cars but the guy who wants the real deal set of options finds out fast that it costs a lot . In my opinion .. too much .

Maybe he ought to start calling dealerships and asking for a 71K Macan for 68K and see if there are any takers .

It seems like that's how Porsche's cultured, really. I.e, options almost adding a whole other car onto a car. Optioning a car up will always get little returns, but in Porsche-land, they leave you no choice. They say that the starting price for a Macan S is almost $51K, but you get nothing on it. In reality, $60-$62K is probably the true "starting price", especially if you look at what appear to be bare-bones cars dealers order, that still go above $63K in many cases. In that sense, I'd say the average Macan depreciation will start from a, let's say $63K assumed car (average MSRP is about $63-64-ish-K. So even $68K being on the high range, would have about a $5K balloon over it that is in question once depreciation starts setting in (i.e if the car depreciates like it's assumed to be $63K, the $5K above that would be in question as to how much you'll be able to retrieve from.... a lot of that will have to do with whether they're "popping" features, i.e aesthetics or drive or tech, things that would make buyers feel like they want so much that they'll pay up for).

If someone is optioning out a $71K Macan S, even a $68K one, obviously I'd also recommend to look into a base Turbo, as if it gives you what you want, it's a much smarter choice. Though, it depends on what the buyer values most. If it's aesthetics, which the Turbo already has standard (painted body panels, nicer front bumper, brake calipers), then the Turbo will be even more-so compelling, unless you're stuck on the Sport Design package on the S (which I personally love and was one of the things that confirmed me on wanting this car, especially for its extra unique factor), AS, tech, individualized bits, etc., I can see it being worth more than the extra 60HP, etc. to them. Though, resale can also obviously be a factor there. So spending an extra several thousand on a Turbo you'd probably make back anyway, which makes it a smart choice at that price, especially if it'd feed your needs and wants more than a well equipped S for as similar price.

 

[yrralis1]

If someone is optioning out a $71K Macan S, even a $68K one, obviously I'd also recommend to look into a base Turbo, as if it gives you what you want, it's a much smarter choice. Though, it depends on what the buyer values most. If it's aesthetics, which the Turbo already has standard (painted body panels, nicer front bumper, brake calipers), then the Turbo will be even more-so compelling, unless you're stuck on the Sport Design package on the S (which I personally love and was one of the things that confirmed me on wanting this car, especially for its extra unique factor), AS, tech, individualized bits, etc., I can see it being worth more than the extra 60HP, etc. to them. Though, resale is obviously a factor there. So spending an extra several thousand on a Turbo you'd probably make back anyway, which makes it a smart choice at that price.

That is where he is positioned when he wants some of the performance and aesthetic options on his list.

If he was a guy buying a no frills Macan trading in an old CRV then I could understand . Although a CRV EXL does come with a lot of amenties for only 32K and at double the price he's ought to have it perfect .

At 5 MPH in Los Angeles traffic he'll want some of those comfort things . He'll want the performance things for a Sunday drive on Mullholland too.

I don't blame him for wanting it right and looking at his build I feel he's really trying to sort it out !!

 

[jrjunior31]

I've gone over it a # of times and am pretty happy with it. I'm sure I can make it better though and I welcome all of the suggestions. I have pano roof right now and I dont use it, it rattles, and it's hot. I tinted it as dark as I could which helped with the heat but on a black on black macan in San Gabriel Valley I don't want the roof. I had Porsche entry in original build until I found out there is no push button start you have to leave the key in the ignition.

I had skid plates on original build also but after looking at pics I liked the back plate but not the front. You cant spec it that way so I took it out. I agree I want it to look killer so I've wondered about some appearance upgrades like the Sport design pack but I didn't like what I saw on the configurator that much. It makes the front look closer to the turbo and I prefer some of the front characteristics of the S. Haven't seen the turbo IRL though.

I had brushed lighted door sills also and took it out but Im on the fence with that 1. I still have plenty of time to tinker with the build. Does anyone have any thoughts about that option or the tinted tail lights option?

I'm not trying to scrimp and save on the build I just tried to target key performance items like PASM +AS and aesthetic options (21 Turbos) and some safety features as well like LCA. My commute is only 11 miles so I never use cruise. If I traveled alot I would get adaptive cruise for sure. I looked through the "what would you change thread" and I don't think I'm missing anything huge that people say is a must have.

I did plug in premium + pack as others had mentioned I had overlap, but the build came out to $1400 more. I did get Porsche entry and pano for that extra 1400 but I don't want either feature. Again I welcome any and all feedback, much appreciated...

 

[jrjunior31]

Points well taken I specd the turbo w the same equipment and it came to 84K. The S spec is at 68, so 16K away. It is insane how little the S comes with in comparison. It's alot easier to go through the options list of the turbo, you don't have to check off half as many boxes!

 

[yrralis1]

I'm not trying to scrimp and save on the build I just tried to target key performance items like PASM +AS and aesthetic options (21 Turbos) and some safety features as well like LCA. My commute is only 11 miles so I never use cruise. If I traveled alot I would get adaptive cruise for sure. I looked through the "what would you change thread" and I don't think I'm missing anything huge that people say is a must have.

I had to have at least the Bose , sat radio , and I like having sport chrono . . I have not heard the standard factory system in thse vehicles but in the past they have been disappointing . I also like the thermally insulated privacy glass . I'm afraid too see what the price is but I did go on the configurator and looked at your exact build . Your car has nice things and if you can be happy with it as it .. then go for it !! Congrats in advance !!

 

[yrralis1]

Points well taken I specd the turbo w the same equipment and it came to 84K. The S spec is at 68, so 16K away. It is insane how little the S comes with in comparison. It's alot easier to go through the options list of the turbo, you don't have to check off half as many boxes!

Drive them both . Be 100 percent sure before you buy anything . Even if you buy nothing it's better to buy no car and have savings than to buy the wrong car .

 

[kendoll]

I had Porsche entry in original build until I found out there is no push button start you have to leave the key in the ignition.

My commute is only 11 miles so I never use cruise. If I traveled alot I would get adaptive cruise for sure.

It's funny, they were the last 2 options I added to my S build.

Maybe semantics but it is a 'dummy' key that is in the ignition, not leaving the key.

And my daily commute is 18km in peak hour traffic. After reading about peoples opinions of ACC I added it mainly for that commute, not the weekend drives.

Everyone is different.

 

[NJ-Macan]

My Turbo was almost $90k, and a comparable loaded S would have cost me low 80's, about 8k less. When spending this kind of money the last thing I wanted was buyers remorse for not stepping up to the Turbo, especially when the delta (for me) was ~10%. I know myself, I felt and heard the difference between the two cars and I would have regrets and be trading up in less than one year. Others on this forum have already reported the same regret.

It also comes down to your expectations for the car, and what will satisfy you. I have owned many high performance cars and for me, the S would simply not be enough power to keep me happy. For each his own as they say, but be sure to measure thrice and cut once


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[parket]

My Garnet Red/Black 2-tone interior is on a boat that is due into San Diego on Oct. 4.

Some real images from images.google.com:

Our garnet red/black interior looks just like these pictures, although my Turbo is white. We ordered in Nov, received the car in May. I have not seen any two-tone interiors since [however, I have only see two on the road and they are speeding away from me!].